[Frollein]

Aceh is in Indonesia. If you can't tell Malaysia and Indonesia apart then I'm not inclined to pay much attention to your ramblings.

Aceh ist die einzige indonesische Provinz, in der die muslimische Scharia-Gesetzgebung gilt.

Perhaps you should talk this through with the journalist who wrote that article?

What do you think of S Africa's ideology, btw? Does it excuse the high rates of interpersonal violence in the country, including sexual violence?

Do the perpetrators justify their violence with "my holy book said so"? No? Then I guess that straw man burned down quickly.

[Decky]

Do the perpetrators justify their violence with "my holy book said so"? No? Then I guess that straw man burned down quickly.

Are Mohamedans the only people who do this?

[Frollein]

So yes, we can stop talking, because Islam and its adherents are a constant danger and that ideology needs to be eradicated with extreme prejudice, just like Nazism was.

Your point was?

[Decky]

The Soviet Union does not exist any more Frollein, Islam like Nazism is too strong to be defeated by anything but full on Stalinism and there is no full on Stalinism left in the world today sadly. The right are importing their Mohameden allies into Europe as we speak and no one can stop them.

[Frollein]

Well, we're heading for either a revolution or a civil war - entertaining times ahead.

[noir]

Nazism was not really eradicated. Only the party was destroyed.

[Decky]

It was eradicated in East Germany Noir, the Soviets were brutal. But in the west they were allowed right back into government, business and the military.

[noir]

Depends what do you call "Nazism". Real legacy is in EU which also revived the dark alliances of Nazism and Fascism with the Arab Middle East, thereby perpetuating a trend that is firmly anchored in the European Arabophile and Islamophile political current.

[Frollein]

Oh please not that fourth Reich bullshit!

[MememyselfandIJK]

what @Decky is getting at is that communists need to take a Machiavellian (Whose equivalent in communism is Stalin) attitude until we exterminate fascism, the overarching ideology of Nazism. Only then can we be safe to settle down and progress at a pace that enhances quality of life. Until then, we must make sacrifices.

[Decky]

Why would we want to be making the sacrifices?

The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.

[MememyselfandIJK]

In order to preserve the state and enable it to fight against Fascism. During WWII, Soviets overwhelmingly supported their country against Hitler's invasion so much that WWII was known as the Great Patriotic War in the USSR.

[Decky]

Did you not read the quote?

[MememyselfandIJK]

I did, sorry I didn't acknowledge it. I do agree with Patton on this point, but my point is that in this case, the ends help justify the means. In order to have a free communist society, fascism must be destroyed, and that requires extreme measures on both the part of the state and the people.

[Decky]

Capitalism is the bigger target. We destroyed fascism last time and what did it buy the Soviet Union? 46 more years. Fascism is just capitalism responding to danger, no capitalism no fascism.

[MememyselfandIJK]

Good point, but like you said if we attempt to destroy capitalism, it will come in the form of fascism, because, like communism, capitalism too will be mobilized for war. Furthermore, the US -- The major aggressor against communism -- today has a moderately fascist government, its key elements being extreme nationalism, a militaristic foreign policy, and an inhuman devotion to religion. Combine that with its corrupt two party system, and you got the basic elements of Fascism, just better concealed than Germany, Italy, Germany, or Spain ever was.

In the end we need to be prepared to fight both fascism and capitalism. When it came down to fighting the US, I agree that the USSR was successful against the first, but not the second. Fascism likes outright violence and war. Capitalism prefers deception and lies.

[noir]

Oh please not that fourth Reich bullshit!

What is EU? Who planned it? The postwar Franco-German plan to build a unified Europe linked to the Arab world—and as a rival to America—led to a strategic, economic and political Euro-Arab alliance. How is it different from the Nazi plan?

This Euro-Africa bloc would unite the EC with the Arab countries. Maurice Couve de Murville, a former Vichy civil servant who held several ambassadorial posts in Arab countries and ministerial posts in the French Foreign office, was credited by Jacques Fremeaux with having built the entire Franco-Arab policy. The project for a Euro-Arab union was not new. On 25 October 1941 Hitler had already told the Italian minister, Count Ciano, that in the battle against America he envisaged "the common interests of a unified Europe within an economic zone completed by the African colonies:4 The Vichy government doubtless knew about this project.

Hitler was confident that unified under German leadership, the continent would eventually be able to take on the United States and prevail. The one element that had changed in his thinking since the 1920s was that his opinion of the Americans and the threat they posed had fallen. But the precondition was victory against Stalin and control of the riches of European Russia, and the fighting itself was desirable because it created a sense of Europeanness. He told Ciano, the Italian foreign minister, that:
Noteworthy in the fighting in the East was the fact that for the first time a feeling of European solidarity had developed. This was of great importance for the future. A later generation would have to cope with the problem of Europe-America. It would no longer be a matter of Germany or England, of Fascism of National Socialism, or antagonistic systems, but of the common interests of PanEurope within the European economic area with her African supplements. The feeling of European solidarity, which at the moment was distinctly tangible ... would gradually have to change generally into a great recognition of the European community ... The future did not belong to the ridiculously halfcivilized America but to the newly arisen Europe that would definitely also prevail with her people her economy and her intellectual and cultural values on condition that the East was placed in the service of the European idea and did not work against Europe.

Foreign observers were convinced of the practical impact of the experts on German policy making in the Muslim world. Analyzing Germany’s war efforts and propaganda in North Africa and the Middle East, the British foreign policy specialist Robert L. Baker detected the influence of “General Doktor Karl Rudolf von Haushofer,” noting that his “geopoliticians have tried very hard to apply the formulas of their science to the Middle East.” Baker would even discuss in detail particular articles on Islam published in the Zeitschrift für Geopolitik, including Rabl’s piece “On the Caliphate,” Lindemann’s text “Islam on the March,” and a special monthly feature on “India and the Near East,” which Haushofer himself had written for many years, to his Anglo- American readers. They had embarked on an “obvious search for a racial or religious movement that can be used to destroy Britain’s power in the Middle East.” Islam, Baker asserted, played a central role in this endeavor.

But what was the ultimate goal of all these maneuvers? Researcher George Michael puts it as succinctly as any, and in so doing, points out yet another connection to Nazi ideology and its worldwide agenda:
During this period, renascent Nazis saw the rise of Arab and Third World nationalism as an excellent opportunity to create a German-Islamic neutralist alliance that would extend from the heart of Europe to the South China Sea. This idea was consistent with the late Karl Haushofer’s policy of an alliance with the “Colored World.”

Eurabia

[MadMonk]

Every thread, every topic and always the same bulls--t....

1. Do you think anyone still reads your wall-of-texts?
2. If someone does, do you think they are convinced by it?
3. Do you think anyone listens to someone as biased and quite possibly, and I say this with concern, insane as yourself?
4. Have you ever doubted anything you have ever believed?
5. Are you being paid for this?

I may have my disagreements with Frollein but I can handle 'extremists' because that would constitute the majority of posters on this forum, seen from the outside.

You on the other hand strike me as one of two things; a fanatic or a deliberate propaganda machine (I seriously have no idea who would pay you for this).

[noir]

Who cares if you read it or not. The reason EU fanatics become so angrily insane is because according to the EU totalitarian culture, only "Neo Nazis" hate their multikulti utopia, while in reality the Old Nazis (including Vidkun Quisling) planned it.

[Frollein]

The difference between the "Eurabia" visions you posted and real world EU policies is that Hitler et al saw Africa as a colony, with Europe as its master. I doubt they'd have approved of the current multi-culti insanity that shovels shitloads of regressives into Europe who then go to rape the native women and kill the men (and I have enough German news articles to illustrate both strategies, from Die Welt alone). Especially considering Hitler's obsession with racial purity, I doubt he had planned for a mixed Eurabian "race."

This is a leftist "no nations, no borders" insanity, not a Nazi project.