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Hong Wu wrote:I'm a little worried by how thorough the dialogue against Trump is getting when you consider that it's all anonymous sources built upon earlier anonymous sources for context.

Here the NYT is saying they haven't even viewed the memo but someone read it to them and they really trust that guy, sounds pretty ridiculous. Obviously they are leaving themselves an opening for a retraction.


It is not only anonymous but second-hand anonymous, meaning a person told someone who then told the newspaper. The opposition is not interested in the truth.
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Igor Antunov wrote:Putin said Mr Trump did not pass over secrets
Except Trump already admitted he had.

And seriously? 4chan /pol/? Is that a joke or has this site devolved that much?
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http://time.com/4780593/president-trump ... lassified/

Another argument about this, besides attacking WaPo's anonymous sources from a small meeting, is that the President is allowed to share classified information with whoever he wants to. Obama wrote an executive order restating this while he was in office which suggests he used it. So, even if the WaPo story is true it seems unlikely to go anywhere legally.
#14805774
So it's turned into conspiracy theories and Israel discussions. I didn't like this under Obama, and I don't like it under Trump. The lack of information and the reaching for any kind of conspiracy that justifies feeling instread of fact should speak for itself.
#14805972
Trump reveals some Israeli intelligence. Never mind that Israel are notorious for selling western technological secrets. Within a couple of days Trump has a special prosecutor appointed to bring him down.

But lets not derail the thread by talking about Israel.
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Donald Trump's campaign made contact with Russia at least 18 times during his presidential race, according to a new report.
The interactions had previously been kept secret by the campaign but are now being reviewed as part of the FBI and congressional investigation into Trump's relationship with Russia.

Conversations between members of Trump's team and high-ranking officials including setting up a special backchannel for communications between the President and Putin, Reuters reported. That would allow the two talk without involving US national security officials.
Such discussions accelerated after Donald Trump won the election, in November.
The 18 calls and electronic messages took place between April and November 2016 as hackers engaged in what U.S. intelligence concluded in January was part of a Kremlin campaign to discredit the vote and influence the outcome of the election in favour of Trump over his Democratic challenger, former secretary of state Hillary Clinton.

Those discussions focused on mending US-Russian economic relations strained by sanctions imposed on Moscow, cooperating in fighting Islamic State in Syria and containing a more assertive China, the sources said.
In January, the Trump White House initially denied any contacts with Russian officials during the 2016 campaign. The White House and advisers to the campaign have since confirmed four meetings between Kislyak and Trump advisers during that time.
The people who described the contacts to Reuters said they had seen no evidence of wrongdoing or collusion between the campaign and Russia in the communications reviewed so far. But the disclosure could increase the pressure on Trump and his aides to provide the FBI and Congress with a full account of interactions with Russian officials and others with links to the Kremlin during and immediately after the 2016 election.
The White House did not respond to requests for comment. Flynn's lawyer declined to comment. In Moscow, a Russian foreign ministry official declined to comment on the contacts and referred Reuters to the Trump administration.
In the conversations during the campaign, Russian officials emphasized a pragmatic, business-style approach and stressed to Trump associates that they could make deals by focusing on common economic and other interests and leaving contentious issues aside, the sources said.
Veterans of previous election campaigns said some contact with foreign officials during a campaign was not unusual, but the number of interactions between Trump aides and Russian officials and others with links to Putin was exceptional.
"It's rare to have that many phone calls to foreign officials, especially to a country we consider an adversary or a hostile power," Richard Armitage, a Republican and former deputy secretary of state, told Reuters.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 42231.html
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Reuters : “No Evidence of Collusion” Between Trump and Russia
"The people who described the contacts to Reuters said they had seen no evidence of wrongdoing or collusion between the campaign and Russia in the communications reviewed so far"

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSK ... ium=Social

:lol:

Witch hunt built on misleading headlines. Trump needs to overhaul the media, it's corrupted to the core.
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Igor Antunov wrote:Witch hunt built on misleading headlines. Trump needs to overhaul the media, it's corrupted to the core.


Trump seems to be freaking out.

US President Donald Trump has lashed out at the decision to appoint a special counsel to oversee the inquiry into Russian influence on his election.
"This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history," he tweeted on Thursday morning.
His reaction differed from Wednesday when he was quoted in a White House statement as saying: "I look forward to this matter concluding quickly."

BBC




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Igor Antunov wrote:Witch hunt built on misleading headlines. Trump needs to overhaul the media, it's corrupted to the core.


Trump couldn't collude on tying his shoelace. There is no collusion, other than the obvious collusion between Putin and his various "private" operators. The obvious solution for Trump is to fire everybody, starting with the stumblebum-in-chief that's the cause of 90% of his woes.
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Negotiator wrote:The president cannot violate state secrets because he is the highest and ultimate authority about what a state secret is.


That is only theory.

The (((deep state))) is the ultimate authority, and that is called "realpolitik".
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