neopagan wrote:Divulging secret information when in the military of any nation, is treason. But that is not really what is going on here. This is typical of the liberal agenda, which is to denounce the military as fascist, even though they would not get to hold any opinion publicly if the military were not protecting that right. Because some of Manning's secrets are not all that pretty, does not change the fact that he broke the law. But liberals want to override the military on what can and cannot be kept secret.
Manning is a criminal regardless of gender. Beren got the gist of liberal ideology right. If he's a she, it's okay.
I'm fine with Manning being convicted and spending a long time in jail. However, I'm okay with him getting out early too, because now I'm anti-establishment. I want the Washington establishment defeated.
When I was a Republican, I spent years explaining and often defending George W. Bush against all the crazy allegations against him. Just as Hillary Clinton and Obama attacked working class whites only to find themselves defeated in 2016, George W. Bush and the Republican neocons attacked the Tea Party before it was the Tea Party--declaring that the era of Reagan was over. Bush and the establishment Republicans then lost the House and Senate to the Democrats in 2006. The Republicans listened to the Democrat analysis that it was about Iraq War fatigue. It was largely over McCain-Kennedy and the bipartisan effort to get Americans to accept illegal aliens, which is ironically why Trump won this time around. They have never understood this.
Anyway, Manning's effort was to undermine Bush, not Obama. That was his intent. He undermined the State Department much more than he undermined Bush. I personally don't give a fuck, because I'm of the opinion that a private first class should not have had access to that information in the first place. That Manning had that access in my opinion is a good reason for an higher ranking intelligence officer to be fired and publicly shamed instead of placing all the blame on someone as psychologically fucked up as Manning. I would add to that firing people who went along with the Don't-ask-don't-tell's evolution into homosexuality as a basic right and identity, and expecting that this would somehow end well. Homosexuals, LGBTQs and whatever other freakery may be about lends itself to an anti-institutional bias, because they are outliers by nature. They don't like terms like "sexual deviant," because the clinical nature of the term stemming from "standard deviation" puts a pretty fine point on it.
In the scheme of things, Seth Rich was more of a hero. The information he leaked did make a material difference in exposing part of the fraud of the establishment--mainly the Democratic Party and the media/Hollywood nexus. For that, he paid with his life without any due process of law. The irony is that with all of the Clinton's dirty dealings with Russia, they want to investigate "possible ties" between Trump and Russia when investigations are supposed to be based upon "probable cause."
So I have to just re-iterate that I couldn't give a shit about what problems the establishment is having now. They more than deserve it. Trump's failure to fire Obama holdovers and all the leaking is his fault. There is no good will that can be shown to the establishment. It's corrupt and venal and it needs to be defeated.
"We have put together the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics."
-- Joe Biden
Great false equivalency. China has almost no rights, so it's not a good comparison. It's not "soft", either. It's about principles and morality. America has rights that China does not grant it's citizens.
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