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mikema63 wrote:How about this for a starting point, can we agree that the Chavez/Maduro governments made mistakes in the way they used the oil revenue which led to cutting of social benefits?
skinster wrote:I don't trust the opposition since they serve US interests, who by the way has paid them at least $49 Million since 2009.You have incredible faith in the strength of American foreign policy. Apparently all it has to do is deliver a container full of cash somewhere and a huge and intense opposition to the gov't will materialise. Or perhaps you believe that Venezuelans are incredibly mercenary and will willingly harm themselves and their country for a bit of cash.
Which benefits are you talking about?
I understand the shortages are due to distribution issues and that a lot of the companies responsible for that job are privatized. In this thread you can see pictures of food being hoarded and torched by the opposition.
even if Maduro's base is suffering, they'd still prefer to keep the government over any other party amongst the opposition.
According to this source, only 33 percent of Venezuelans want to replace the current government.
Caracas, Venezuela – A dozen prominent Chavistas have joined the opposition’s call for a vote to recall President Nicolas Maduro in Venezuela, adding yet another layer to the complex political and financial crisis ripping the country apart.
The group, which includes former lawmakers and three ministers or secretaries under Hugo Chavez’s presidency, wrote an open letter to the National Electoral Board Monday saying the people of Venezuela should be able to express its will via a referendum.
America is largely responsible for the crisis and has a very recent history of being involved in the ousting of the previous leader of the country, so there no "misdirected anger", just you as usual ignoring or apologizing for your government's many crimes, including its attempt for regime change in Venezuela once more. Here you can read about US plans of sabotage in Venezuela, which were leaked from Clinton's emails: http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/C ... -0041.html
AFAIK wrote:You have incredible faith in the strength of American foreign policy. Apparently all it has to do is deliver a container full of cash somewhere and a huge and intense opposition to the gov't will materialise. Or perhaps you believe that Venezuelans are incredibly mercenary and will willingly harm themselves and their country for a bit of cash.
mikema63 wrote:All of them, and all other government spending aside.
As for distribution, maduro put the military in charge of oversight of distribution in the country, however the process was filled with corruption. The military intentionally marked up prices to make money and engaged in some of that hoarding you mentioned.
61% thought that economic problems should be the priority and 33% thought the recall should be. Which from my reading doesn't necessarily mean that the 61% oppose the recall. Just that they, rather sensibly, would like to deal with the rather pressing problem of shortages and economic crisis first over the recall vote.
skinster wrote:I understand an election is due next year. Why would the opposition, given the support you claim it has, not wait for then to...win?
skinster wrote: America is just you know, being altruistic here with their many millions that have been going to opposition groups in Venezuela over the years.
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