[anarchist23]

An eight-month old Canadian baby has been issued a health card without a gender marker, in what could be the first case in the world.
Parent Kori Doty - a non-binary transgender person who identifies as neither male nor female - aims to allow the child to discover their own gender.
The health card has been issued with a "U" in the space for "sex", which could be for "undetermined" or "unassigned".
Kori Doty is fighting to omit the gender from the birth certificate.
The parent gave birth to Searyl Atli in November at a friend's home in British Columbia. Kori Doty, who prefers to use the pronoun they, argues that a visual inspection at birth is unable to determine what gender that person will have or identify with later in life.
They want to keep Searyl's sex off all official records.
"I'm raising Searyl in in such a way that until they have the sense of self and command of vocabulary to tell me who they are, I'm recognising them as a baby and trying to give them all the love and support to be the most whole person that they can be outside of the restrictions that come with the boy box and the girl box," the parent was quoted by CBC.

Kori Doty, a community educator who is part of the Gender-Free ID Coalition, said that those who feel different to the gender designation assigned at birth face several problems later in life trying to change their documents.
"When I was born, doctors looked at my genitals and made assumptions about who I would be, and those assignments followed me and followed my identification throughout my life," Kori Doty said.
"Those assumptions were incorrect, and I ended up having to do a lot of adjustments since then."
In the case of Searyl Atli, the parent said that the authorities have refused to issue the birth certificate without a gender designation and so the parent has applied for a judicial review of the case.
The family's lawyer, barbara findlay, who chooses to spell her name without capital letters, told Global News: "The assignment of sex in this culture is done when a medical person lifts up the legs and looks at the baby's genitals. But we know that the baby's own gender identity will not develop for some years until after they're born."
Canadian media reported that the baby's health card could be the first in the world to not have a gender designation.

BBC

[mikema63]

I find it somewhat problematic that this essentially conflates sex with gender. The sex section of the card should be considered to refer to biological sex and is medically important information.

The entire fight of transgenderism is predicated on the separation of sex and gender and here we are throwing them together on medical documents.

[Decky]

If they want to cause problems for their child in future every time they have to show their birth certificate for any official purpose that is up to them. Middle class people make me laugh sometimes. They will even shoot their own child in the foot just to show off to their friends how cool they are by participating in the latest fad.

[Rancid]

I find it somewhat problematic that this essentially conflates sex with gender. The sex section of the card should be considered to refer to biological sex and is medically important information.

The entire fight of transgenderism is predicated on the separation of sex and gender and here we are throwing them together on medical documents.

Yea, that's pretty much it right there.

[Bulaba Khan Jones]

I find it somewhat problematic that this essentially conflates sex with gender. The sex section of the card should be considered to refer to biological sex and is medically important information.

The entire fight of transgenderism is predicated on the separation of sex and gender and here we are throwing them together on medical documents.

Very problematic. Also, not to mention that the parent is forcing gender ambiguity on their child; the chance of that kid growing up and ending up identifying as a different gender, on their own, is close to 0.3% the last I checked estimated statistics on transgendered people. The kid deciding, on their own, to identify as something else is one thing, but the parent is making those decisions into an issue. That kid will grow up feeling confused and unsure being parented by someone who will continually tell them to feel confused and unsure.

[Deutschmania]

When I first read the title heading of this thread , I had expected that it would have involved an intersex baby . I feel that it's good on so many levels that the intersex are not automatically assumed to be female at birth , and especially I feel that it's a good thing that they are not surgically altered to make them into girls , before their gender identity has been firmly established . But to not assign an anatomical sex to an infant whom is not of ambiguous genitalia I consider to be uncalled for , and inappropriate .

[Zionist Nationalist]

This is bullshit

retard parents..

[Suntzu]

Searyl will figure out if he is a boy or girl pretty quickly. We don't have to teach kids sexual sterotypes, hormones do that for us.

[Saeko]

I want to remove all mention of blood type from health documentation. Blood type is a spectrum, a social construct, etc. What could go wrong?

[Pants-of-dog]

While I think this is weird and maybe a bit dumb, I am not sure that it will cause any harm. It may cause some confusion for the kid, or the kid may grow up with a clear idea of gender as a spectrum and feel perfectly clear about it.

Having said that, this is a "man-bites-dog" story. It is only mentioned because of its rarity.

The opposite story, that children are raised to be transphobic, happens every day and very often. This is why raising your kid to be transphobic does not garner a news story.

The effect of raising a kid to be transphobic is also unhealthy, and teaching children to hate what is different (but not harmful) is rarely good. But we do not judge parents for doing that, despite the fact that it is arguably worse than what this parent is doing.

[Rancid]

Having said that, this is a "man-bites-dog" story. .

Totally off topic, but that's what the phrase man-bites-dog means? Something that is rare? :mind blown:

That said, come down to Florida, and I'm a man biting a dog is not rare.

[Verv]

It is worth noting that the ... "mother" or "father" or whatever we call a non-binary parent has pictures of themselves as obviously a female with facial hair and breasts. They are "non-binary."

Some obscenely small portion of the population is born with a hermafrodite situation where, eventually, they will probably try to gravitate to one gender and normalize themselves... But the entire non-binary movement exists to say that neither of these natural poles in the human gender are relevant. Indeed, being "transgender" is its own identity, not something that should be forgotten after one "transitions."

Of course, the Left will focus on the normal, natural gender transitions & people who "pass" as their new gender and put this forward as the new normal that we are simply being asked to accept, while the Right will put forward the opposite extreme...

But hey, if the truth is "somewhere nearer the middle," we are looking at a very ugly middle indeed.

[Pants-of-dog]

Actually, progressives are not trying to claim that all trans peope are actually the sex to which they transitioned. Our position is that some people are male, some are female, some are neither, but since it has no negative impacts on other people, they should all be treated with the same respect.

[Bulaba Khan Jones]

While I think this is weird and maybe a bit dumb, I am not sure that it will cause any harm. It may cause some confusion for the kid, or the kid may grow up with a clear idea of gender as a spectrum and feel perfectly clear about it.

Having said that, this is a "man-bites-dog" story. It is only mentioned because of its rarity.

The opposite story, that children are raised to be transphobic, happens every day and very often. This is why raising your kid to be transphobic does not garner a news story.

The effect of raising a kid to be transphobic is also unhealthy, and teaching children to hate what is different (but not harmful) is rarely good. But we do not judge parents for doing that, despite the fact that it is arguably worse than what this parent is doing.

There's a difference between raising your child to be more tolerant towards people who are different, and telling your child that they have an unclear gender identity. I have no idea how the parent in question intends to parent their child, so I don't know how forceful they will be (e.g. if the kid gravitates towards doing everything the other boys are doing, to leave the matter alone at that point, or if they will continue to push their own ideas onto the kid). Considering what Mike pointed out, I'd be concerned at this point because the parent isn't actually thinking things through too well.