mikema63 wrote:I'd recommend soul searching to NAZI supporters who can't help but defend a NAZI murderer and cry about how mean it is to call NAZI's NAZI's but I have come to doubt you have any soul to find.
Why do you insist we are Nazi supporters? I'm not a Nazi. I don't think running people over with a car is a good thing. I just think the guy should get a fair trial. His state of mind isn't clear as he was a schizophrenic. BLM, Antifa and SURJ were clearly instigating violence, and the record shows that they intended to do so over a month in advance. The mayor himself tried to stop Unite the Right, and the ACLU took him to court over it. UTR's previous torch light protest in May was peaceful. There were no other incidents of people getting run over by cars, so it is an isolated incident. People pulling out guns and killing scores of people is usually dispositive of intent, other than a not guilty by reason of insanity plea. Yet, your reaction in this Charlottesville case is rather passionate, while your reaction in the Omar Mateen incident seems muted by comparison. Yet, the Mateen incident involved 49 deaths and was 20 minutes from your house, and against your own "minority" identity group. From my perspective, you were more angry with Trump supporters, Christianity, religion in general and firearms. Here's what you had to say in the first few pages of the Orlando shooter thread:
mikema63 wrote:I live 20 minutes away from that club. They advertise at my school. I know a bunch of people that went there, including my roommate and husband.
mikema63 wrote:It's been declared an act of domestic terrorism and the FBI put out a statement that they had evidence he had Islamist leanings though they aren't willing to rule out other possibilities just yet.
I really hope someone I know didn't get hurt. This is really really terrible.
mikema63 wrote:Not yet that I know of.
Twitter is a fucking disaster area full of fuckwits. It's like they deliberately gather the stupidest segments of every ideology and just let them have at it.
This probably isn't going to do much for my attitude towards religion.
mikema63 wrote:The parents were Afghani.
This is just, really terrifying. I hate being reminded that there are people who would kill me in a second because their invisible friend thinks gays are icky.
I just mean, fuck me, this is surreal.
mikema63 wrote:It's amazingly sickening that people are willing to turn this tragedy into a thread about how much they hate liberals and Obama.
I don't to hear about fucking trump from you people. You think trump is my fucking ally?
Republicans would happily annul my marriage and declare gay sex illegal. Right wingers just love to play high and mighty when they are part of the forces trying to make my life shit.
Trump can go to hell and so can right wingers.
mikema63 wrote:Seeing people crow about how great this tragedy at my fucking doorstep is because radaradarade trump muslims liberals is disgusting.
It really fucking pisses me off to see people act smug and self satisfied with 50 people fucking dead. Some of them could be my fucking friends.
Seriously, shit on someone elses tragedy.
mikema63 wrote:The wide availability of assault weapons in the US clearly have no relationship to a guy killing 50 people with assault weapons. He could have done just as much damage with a .22 rifle or a handgun.
mikema63 wrote:From the reports I'm reading he wasn't on a watch list and his family was definitely Afghani.
Interviews with family are already coming out. His ex-wife says he was extremely abusive and unstable. His father said something about him being extremely angry when he saw two men kiss in miami. Both his parents are saying they don't understand why he did this.
Sounds like an angry unstable man found him some religion.
mikema63 wrote:There isn't any evidence that this guy was anything more than a crazy person with anger issues who found god and then did something crazy.
Obviously being able to kill or injure more than 100 people has nothing to do with the availability of assault weapons.
Trump is not my ally, he'd fuck over ever LGBT person in the country and call it winning.
Keep this stuff in context. 50 times as many of your people get killed by an Islamic extremist 20 minutes from your house, and you tell Trump and his supporters to go to hell, but not Islamic extremists or ISIS. Instead, you fall into line with the Democratic party on gun control. James Fields only killed one person, wasn't particularly religious, and used a car--and it hasn't been established as a matter of law what he intended.
As an atheist, if you don't believe in a soul, why would you recommend "soul searching"?
Do you think Omar Mateen should go to hell? Are you satisfied that you and Mateen's father had something in common: support for Hillary Clinton?
-- Hillary Clinton