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#14837897
Frollein wrote:Italian newspapers such as "La Stampa" or "Corriere della Sera" report that the police identified the 4 men via video recording as drug traffickers of North African origin.

This poses the interesting question for our progressives here who is more worthy of "our" protection: the brownpeople of the Religion of Peace (TM) with their known cultural idiosyncracies regarding women and sexual deviants, or the Third World (and thus presumably PoC) transsexual. Of course I'm disregarding the raped white woman and the beaten and abused white man, because, you know, white. 8)


On the surface that does indeed appear to be an insolvable dilemma however such shining wits (as Spooner would say) as the progs will solve it very easily because Islams are scary and PoC transsexuals are not, so the PoC tranny will get pushed under the jihadi bus along with those nasty white people.
#14837910
One wonders why the conservatives that have been in power in western Europe for so many decades have been importing so many Muslims into our homes when they claim to have a problem with the inevitable consequences. Germany hasn't had a left wing government since the fall of the Berlin wall and the UK has not had one since Thatcher ousted Jim Callaghan in 1979, but if you want to keep living in a fantasy world where the left is responsible for your right wing mates actions please go ahead. The only difference between you and the Mohamedans you right wingers import so happily is the beards.
#14837934
Decky wrote:One wonders why the conservatives that have been in power in western Europe for so many decades have been importing so many Muslims into our homes when they claim to have a problem with the inevitable consequences. Germany hasn't had a left wing government since the fall of the Berlin wall and the UK has not had one since Thatcher ousted Jim Callaghan in 1979, but if you want to keep living in a fantasy world where the left is responsible for your right wing mates actions please go ahead. The only difference between you and the Mohamedans you right wingers import so happily is the beards.


Concervetive or not, the elites are the same throughout Germany's troubled history and they tradionally Islamophiles. Any protest by every German will not waver them.

She's certain that what she has done is right. The elites told her she saved Germany for the future.

#14837939
Frollein wrote:This poses the interesting question for our progressives here who is more worthy of "our" protection: the brownpeople of the Religion of Peace (TM) with their known cultural idiosyncracies regarding women and sexual deviants, or the Third World (and thus presumably PoC) transsexual. Of course I'm disregarding the raped white woman and the beaten and abused white man, because, you know, white. 8)

The hierarchy works pretty much like this

Muslim men (top)
Muslim women
Black men
Black women
....

White Lesbians
White Heterosexual women
White Trans
Gay White men
Heterosexual White men

In the Middle its a bit vague. But note the Black Lies matter campaign. Its not concerned with police shooting Black women. Very often these shootings happen because police officers are trying to protect Black women and decent law abiding Black men from the Black male gangsters. Many of these criminals will have raped Black women, but of course our BLM protesters couldn't give a .....
#14837961
I see we need to remind the Islaomophobes of something.

Rape is wrong. It should be eradicated and if not, the perpetrators need to be separated from the rest of us for our safety.

These guys who raped the woman deserve life sentences in jail. This is true regardless of their religion.
#14839388
A comment at Geert Wilders page

Mr Geert Wilders, I am a conservative Dutch Afrikaner from South Africa. We would love to emigrate back to Holland. To learn the language would be easy. We are professional, Christian people who would definitely support your party and if you would, we will canvise for like-minded families to join us in the next "Groot Trek" back to the country of our origin. We are not welcome in South Africa anymore because of the ruling parties laws and believes. We are excluded from the labour market because of racist labour laws. Our people are being slaughtered like animals because of the hatred towards europeans. And most of us (the boers) are living under the bread line. These are people from all walks of life including doctors, pastors, farmers, high ranking soldiers engineers and many more. We need your help, and I believe you need us and we can contribute to make Holland Great again! Is there any way you can make this possible?






Geert Wilders: If we won't fight, by the end of the century Europe will become part of the Arab world

Eldad Beck

"Islam is the core of the problem, not only the radicals". 

The states of Europe transferred their authorities to Brussels. Today we are not responsible anymore on control of our borders. We got rid of national states and the result is a kind of identity crisis. One is in need of a sense of identity, a flag, a hymn, tradition in order for a democracy to thrive. I don't have anything against the Portuguese or Danish but we are not the same. If you don't know who you are then you also don't know who you are not. In these conditions you cannot ask from migrants to adapt. Adapt to what? Whoever says like I do that there is a need of a "leitkultur" (one dominant culture) is portrayed as a racist.

Holland is not an Islamic state, it is a state based on Humanistic/Christian/Jewish values. This is who we are, who we have always been and what we should be. In a lot of European states, people are being sued for voicing these things. Now people start witnessing what is happening and are frightened. There is a resurgence of national identities. A poll was made among Turkish youngsters in Holland which showed that 78% of them consider the ones that left to Syria to join Isis as "heroes". Amsterdam's university, institution of liberal left, discovered that 11% of Muslims in Holland- meaning more than 100000 out of a million are prepared to use violence in the name of Islam. That is twice as big as the Dutch army.

Is the refusal to acknowledge the connection between Islam and terror part of the problem?

No doubt. The leading parties of Europe now say: Islam is not the problem, it's the salafists. As if we can talk about 2 sorts of Islam. What about the salafi and wahabi states of the Middle East that fund and indoctrinate people with ideologies in Europe and America? Saudi Arabia, the state in which Trump was waving with swords, is one of the most problematic states together with the rest of the gulf monarchies.

…and there is also a Turkish presence

Indeed. This isn't a conventional war with tanks, this is rather a war between ideologies. Youngsters, often born in Europe, as happened in Barcelona, are not only encouraged by Isis but also by Saudi Arabia, turkey, Morocco and all others that fund extremist organisations. Islam is the core of the problem, not just salafism. Not all Muslims are terrorists, however, today inEurope, all terrorists are Muslims. The first thing to do is to accurately assess the problem. It is our obligation to acknowledge the threat as it is: the violent ideology, the hate and lack of patience they are bringing into our lives. The more Europe will become Islamic, the more violence and less freedom we will experience. 

How much time is left ?

Many researches have shown the Islamic influence on society. Muslims do not need to be a majority in a particular state in order to provoke major changes in regard to freedom, to violence and to the rule of law. In reality, we are late. We need to rise again and change this reality. We don't have a choice. Our existence is at stake. People in whole of Europe realise what the effects are of islamisation. People are afraid to send their kids to school or to the main cities. If we won't fight, by the end of the century we will be part of the Arab world or of Africa. In Britain there are already sharia courts on Europe's soil. This isn't a tale, this is real, the situation is terrible.

Some say that the chaotic handling of Trump affected the patriotic parties of Europe in a negative way in elections. What's your view?

Some Europeans like Trump. A lot don't like him. But people look at what happens in their own countries, cities and streets. Maybe the situation has to worsen in order to become better. The governments of the west are going the wrong direction. East Europe is a different story. There, people seek their national identities and are proud of it. They are not infected by the virus of cultural relativism, they remember all too well what a totalitarian regime means and they are not prepared to be dragged into another totalitarian regime in Brussels. They don't have migration from previous colonies. I have met with Viktor Orban in Hungary. He told his people: "We are a Christian state, not Islamic. I refuse to receive more Muslims, also if the EU may pressure." The same goes for Pols, Slovaks and Czechs. We should learn from them.
#14840262
Seeker8 wrote:@Frollein
It's easy to just blame an idology but might be helpful if you posted your solution once in a while.


1. Stop bombing Muslim countries
2. Stop accepting Muslims in Europe
3. Treat Islam as what it is: a political, social and economical regime guided by their own rules of Fascism (Sharia). Islam is actually illegal in Europe. The bases of existence of Islam is Sharia, Jihad, Here after and etc. Rape, child marriage, absence of equal rights for women, all of that is the bases of Sharia and Sharia is the base of Islam. Prohibit Sharia from the texts
3. Prohibe to build Mosques and tax all the existent Mosques. How do you think Arabs laundry their money? USA has Evangelical Churches for that and Arabs have Mosques.
5. Freeze the assets of all Muslim Brotherhood cells in Europe and USA. From newspapers to "ONG's" .



Isn't hard to avoid the problem, actually is simple. Treat them as we treat Communists and Nazism, in the end isn't that different. Islam is the most effective Fascist regime ever created, thrives where Mussolini, Gengis Khan , Hitler, Henry Kissinger failed.
#14840263
B0ycey wrote:Why do the anti-Muslim brigade think people who support equality will defend rape because the perpetrator was a Muslim? The only party who seem to be supporting extremists on PoFo are the alt-right who continue to defend Nazis within the Charlottesville thread.


There isn't Islamophobia, is absurd. Also there isn't "radicals" when it comes to Islam, there's only Islam. Nothing the so called Radicals of Isis did or will do is different from what Mohammed did and preached. Literally nothing.

Islam thrives because most people, like you, love to have opinions about subjects they don't give themselves the trouble to study or learn about enough to have a opinion about.

For example, is the Catholic mass in your country hold in Latin or in your native language? When you go to a Synagogue to they speak in Hebrew or the native Language? You know why doesn't matter where Muslims are, the sayings of the Quoran are always said in Arabic? Because understanding why they always scream allahu akbar and not "God is big"or "Deus es grande" is a basic need to even begin to understand Islam. When the Catholic Church and Protestant Churches spread they spread in all sorts of languages, hence why Christian religions are so different from one another. While Islam has no influence, didn't change, in Arabic is the only way to understand it and only in arabic should be prayed. How many Europeans speak Arabic? Do they understand a word of what is said in the Mosque?

There isn't radicals or moderated Muslims because there's only 1 Islam. The Quran and hadiths, unlike any other religion, isn't something you can change or open to interpretation. The words spoke to Mohammed are the final words, the book starts backwards because the final words are the ones that are valid and guess if the book ends up even more violent than it started?

One of the basic thing you need to understand is Islam operates in a logic different from yours, is a whole new world of crazy. You're clearly applying a western Roman Catholic- Greek - Judaic to understand Islam. Is the equivalent of using Grammar to solve a math or chemistry equation and not understanding why you can't solve the equation.

Islam's logic starts in the Here after not life on earth. That is another basic thing people need to understand about Islam.

The idea that Islam is peaceful turned once known as Paris of The Middle East into the hell Beirut is these days. People are quick to forget Iran was a Democracy not long ago.

Islam is like a cancer. Grows silent until is big enough to get noticed. There isn't good Cancer, cancer is cancer. Islam is Islam and you can try to paint it in rainbow colors as much as you want, wont work.
#14840264
Politiks wrote:1. Stop bombing Muslim countries
2. Stop accepting Muslims in Europe
3. Treat Islam as what it is: a political, social and economical regime guided by their own rules of Fascism (Sharia). Islam is actually illegal in Europe. The bases of existence of Islam is Sharia, Jihad, Here after and etc. Rape, child marriage, absence of equal rights for women, all of that is the bases of Sharia and Sharia is the base of Islam. Prohibit Sharia from the texts
3. Prohibe to build Mosques and tax all the existent Mosques. How do you think Arabs laundry their money? USA has Evangelical Churches for that and Arabs have Mosques.
5. Freeze the assets of all Muslim Brotherhood cells in Europe and USA. From newspapers to "ONG's" .



Isn't hard to avoid the problem, actually is simple. Treat them as we treat Communists and Nazism, in the end isn't that different. Islam is the most effective Fascist regime ever created, thrives where Mussolini, Gengis Khan , Hitler, Henry Kissinger failed.


Till the late 60's, Europe indeed treated the Arabs and the Muslims as they treated Communists and Nazism, but then they switch their policy and joined the Arab outlook (in exchange for oil) now they can not retreat the course again, the demographic forces are dictating it. Sooner rather than later Europe will be part of the Islamic world. The only option for the Free World is to contain these countries and not let their influence to spread.
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#14840266
noir wrote:Till the late 60's, Europe indeed treated the Arabs and the Muslims as they treated Communists and Nazism, but then they switch their policy and joined the Arab outlook (in exchange for oil) now they can not retreat the course again, the demographic forces are dictating it. Sooner rather than later Europe will be part of the Islamic world. The only option for the Free World is to contain these countries and not let their influence to spread.


There's several reasons why Europe and North America sold their own to Arabs. OPEP is certainly a way to start understanding the problem. For example, there's only 1 western nation that is a oil country (with large reserves) that isn't part of OPEP and that country is Brazil. It's interesting that a country with such large reserves like Brazil never even tried to be part of OPEP or accepted any sort of Foreign Investment coming from Arab funds like Qatar, Saudi's and the usual gang. Funny enough Brazil is the only country that's Islam free besides China.
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Politiks wrote:There's several reasons why Europe and North America sold their own to Arabs. OPEP is certainly a way to start understanding the problem. For example, there's only 1 western nation that is a oil country (with large reserves) that isn't part of OPEP and that country is Brazil. It's interesting that a country with such large reserves like Brazil never even tried to be part of OPEP or accepted any sort of Foreign Investment coming from Arab funds like Qatar, Saudi's and the usual gang. Funny enough Brazil is the only country that's Islam free besides China.


Maybe because you don't have an antisemitic complex. The Arab alliance helped Europe to free itself with guilt for the genocide of the Jews very quickly. At that time the Arab League officials were explicit about it.
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#14840351
Politiks wrote:There isn't Islamophobia, is absurd. Also there isn't "radicals" when it comes to Islam, there's only Islam. Nothing the so called Radicals of Isis did or will do is different from what Mohammed did and preached. Literally nothing.

Islam thrives because most people, like you, love to have opinions about subjects they don't give themselves the trouble to study or learn about enough to have a opinion about.

For example, is the Catholic mass in your country hold in Latin or in your native language? When you go to a Synagogue to they speak in Hebrew or the native Language? You know why doesn't matter where Muslims are, the sayings of the Quoran are always said in Arabic? Because understanding why they always scream allahu akbar and not "God is big"or "Deus es grande" is a basic need to even begin to understand Islam. When the Catholic Church and Protestant Churches spread they spread in all sorts of languages, hence why Christian religions are so different from one another. While Islam has no influence, didn't change, in Arabic is the only way to understand it and only in arabic should be prayed. How many Europeans speak Arabic? Do they understand a word of what is said in the Mosque?

There isn't radicals or moderated Muslims because there's only 1 Islam. The Quran and hadiths, unlike any other religion, isn't something you can change or open to interpretation. The words spoke to Mohammed are the final words, the book starts backwards because the final words are the ones that are valid and guess if the book ends up even more violent than it started?

One of the basic thing you need to understand is Islam operates in a logic different from yours, is a whole new world of crazy. You're clearly applying a western Roman Catholic- Greek - Judaic to understand Islam. Is the equivalent of using Grammar to solve a math or chemistry equation and not understanding why you can't solve the equation.

Islam's logic starts in the Here after not life on earth. That is another basic thing people need to understand about Islam.

The idea that Islam is peaceful turned once known as Paris of The Middle East into the hell Beirut is these days. People are quick to forget Iran was a Democracy not long ago.

Islam is like a cancer. Grows silent until is big enough to get noticed. There isn't good Cancer, cancer is cancer. Islam is Islam and you can try to paint it in rainbow colors as much as you want, wont work.


I think you quoted the wrong post. None of this has any relevance to my point.
#14841006
noir wrote:"They see that Europe is being invaded by Islam. So what do they do?

Yes, they (ordinary Europeans) see that Europe is threatened by xtreme islamz in their commercial mass media every day, and they get scared and become helpless victims in search of protection.

So what do they do?

(Translation: What is the effect of the false-flag/commercial media propaganda on European media consumers?)

They then let their government spend trillions on commercial weaponry, and then they sit passively while their "protector" invades half the world to steal resources. For commercial reasons.

Oh, and their "protector" and their "commercial media" golf together. :lol:
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