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#14836462
What lay behind the attack on Barcelona is the jihad to reoccupy the lost Andalusia (Arabic name to Spain).


The origin of the street name where the attack took place is Arabic

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Rambla,_Barcelona

La Rambla, Barcelona

The course of La Rambla was originally a sewage-filled stream-bed,[5] usually dry but an important drain for the heavy rainwater flowing from the Collserola hills during spring and autumn. (Rambla, from the Arabic رمل "sand", is Catalan for "wadi".[6]) It separated the walled city on its north-east bank from the settlements of El Raval ("the suburb") on its south-west.[7]


The Palestinian Arab city, Ramallah (currently serves as the de facto administrative capital of the Palestinian National Authority) came from the same etymology
#14836468
The irony in this Barcelona attack is that Spain was the most prominent supporter of Arab cause in Palestine, they were even pushing sanctions on Israel as far as I know. I do not know how far they went with those efforts, but nevertheless; they got terrorized by the Islamist.

Viva le multiculturalism and rainbow society! You reap what you sow as the saying goes.

But the idiots are still keeping their heads up their assess and refuse to face reality, even after all these events. They rather bash "white supremacist" or "angry white men" then face up to the bullshit that they have created or support. Instead of facing the real enemy they turn on their own people who try to do good and protect their people and homes. If this is the definition of idiocity and stupidity, the modern "progressive liberals" as I call them, sure win the top medal prize in that field of competition. With historical record setting performance.
#14836471
In 2004 there was horrific attack on Madrid, the explosions killed 192 people and injured around 2,000.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Ma ... n_bombings

It was all forgotten by the Spaniards. If you want a lasting effect on European mind, the terrorists should attack land marks and monuments. The Moroccan terrorist original plan was to bomb Sagrada Familia church, if it would had succeed, the Spaniards will have to rethink about their identity. The Europeans don't care about human lives.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41010469

#14836477
The real enemy is neither white men or the followers of Islam. The enemies are the bankrollers, the power brokers and career politicians. They have the power they make the decisions and they have gotten us into this mess as they do time and again.

As it stands the western nations hold the bulk of power and wealth and we allow our corrupt politicians to act with little to no real accountability for their decision making.
#14836533
jessupjonesjnr87 wrote:The real enemy is neither white men or the followers of Islam. The enemies are the bankrollers, the power brokers and career politicians. They have the power they make the decisions and they have gotten us into this mess as they do time and again.

As it stands the western nations hold the bulk of power and wealth and we allow our corrupt politicians to act with little to no real accountability for their decision making.
Indeed the real enemy is actually the fat white pigs in power who brought this mess on Europe to begin with, then the Islamist and rest of the world. Except for Japanese and other cool nations.
#14836559
SolarCross wrote:True, though I wonder how "right wing" Nazis really are, it isn't called National Socialism for nothing.


The political class of West Germany after the war were old Nazis. They built the European Community and its strategic ties to the Middle East

Excerpts from Eurabia


viewtopic.php?f=42&t=170819&p=14835595&hilit=Eurabia#p14835595
#14836563
noir wrote:The political class of West Germany after the war were old Nazis. They built the European Community and its strategic ties to the Middle East

Excerpts from Eurabia

viewtopic.php?f=42&t=170819&p=14835595&hilit=Eurabia#p14835595


Okay I have scan read some of that. Part of the Nazi paranoia about jews stemmed from them blaming the jews for Germany losing WW1. Well given Nuremburg could hardly hang every single Nazi or Nazi sympathiser, clearly many Nazis will remain afterwards to become the movers and shakers of the new Germany, yet now they have yet another World War they can blame jews for their defeat... I mean who defeated Germany in WW2? Britain, the US and USSR.. Three powers that were fairly well disposed towards jewry, comparatively speaking. There is perhaps still more grounds for paranoid grumbling about jews but with an extra reason for being discreet about it. So then there is Islam with a newly awakened jihad spirit over "crusaders", this time jews rather than christians, in the muslim lands and so once again stealth nazis courting fellow jew haters.

It dove tails nicely but why then all these terror attacks across Europe? Does this not greatly work against the cause of marrying the interests of central Europe with Islam? What went wrong there?
#14836594
They Are Muslims. They can't help it. What led West Germany and France to the Arab world was the shared hatred against Jews and America. But for Muslims, there is no much difference. On the contrary, 7 million stubborn Zionists are kids game compare the historical rivalry between Islam and Christianity. For Old Nazis who relinquish Christianity during the Third Reich there were no problem about that. For Muslims, there is no much difference between wanting to reclaim lost Andalusia (Spain) and the lost Palestine (Israel). Britain knew all of that (as a Mandatory power in Palestine they knew that the Jews were attacked because who they are and not because what they do), but when it joined the EC it had to standardize its policy, culture and state media. Lionizing and sanitizing the Pal jihad given a priority. Even @anarchist23 admits he was "pro Israel" till late 60's. It didn't happen by chance. The BBC joined the European-wide agreements to support morally the Arab (Palestinian) cause. It was part of EC and Arab world written agreements and it turned daily propaganda and fake news.

Arab in Palestine stabbing non Zionist Jew in 1929 riots. It was before establishing the state of Israel, "occupation", "apartheid" you name it. That's what Muslims do. European Jew haters believed sincerely this will not happen to them. Why not? The chickens coming home to roost.

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The cover of Le Petit Journal from 1929 reads “Trouble in Palestine: fanatic Arabs massacre Jews in the districts of Jerusalem.” Today, as then, Muslim religious leaders are inciting the murder of Jews on religious grounds, this time with the full blessing (and sometimes with salaries from) the EU-funded Palestinian Authority.
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#14836617
Thanks to @Frollein for starting this thread. For some reason I get "you are not authorised to like this post", that's the reason I haven't given any likes out for some time.

The problem with Israel is that they are totally wedded to their alliance with Saudi and the other Sunni Arab Gulf terror states. So @noir I'm sorry but until Israel abandons its Axis of Evil with Saudi I'm not really that interested in Israeli whining about European Arabaphillia.

Don't get me wrong, I have great admiration for Israel, and I understand why it makes sense for Israel to support this pact with the devil and Twelever Islam is a contemptible ideology. Even now with the Sunni Arabs openly trying to genocide them the Shia can't admit that Sunni Islam is their existential enemy and have to deflect all their hate on to Israel, a country that has not harmed the Shia in any significant way. But all that said for Infidels as a whole Sunni Islam must be the overwhelming priority. We should strengthen the Shia further by giving them Bahrain and Saudi Eastern province. :lol: Ah you thought Sunnis were angry about Iraq. Now that would really give them something to whine about.
#14836622
Rugoz wrote:Nonsense. Japan was an imperial power that occupied half of East Asia. So much for "acceptance" :lol:. Your "acceptance" is just another term of being too weak to impose one's will on others.

You could argue the West has been more ideologically motivated than other powers (if you count the Soviet Union as Western, which is a bit silly given the origin of the term "West"). Debatable.



By coincidence I have been reading about Japan's rise to power. The road to Japanese imperialism started with the realisation that they weren't going to be able to keep the rest of the world at bay. Hence the Meiji Restoration. The Empire developed, like most empires, though the need to secure their interests against rival empires. Hence the occupation of Korea. The war against Russia was really the Russians fault. Eventually the Japanese became strong enough to rival American power in the Far East and they were ultimately defeated by the Americans.

But what in this makes Japanese thinking identical to Western thinking? Were the Japanese just like the Europeans with their Imperialism? How does this mean they think the same way? After all there was plenty of imperialism before the rise of Europe. Did all these previous cultures think just like Europeans too? It is not imperialism that is at issue. Rather it is about systems of beliefs.


If we look at the ideas of Shumei Okawa, we see a pan-Asianist. He contrasted the East with the West in terms of Asian universalism verses Western particularism. @anasawad is talking about different cultural outlooks. Shumei mean't something like 'wholism' versus 'reductionism' whereas contemporary Western universalism means asserting the one true belief over all others and then imposing it on all. Particularism, in contrast to that concept of universalism, means regional values. So we can identify humanism, liberalism and off shoot ideas like human rights, as being a vehicle for dominance, as it is intended to impose the one system of belief on all other beliefs on the grounds that Europeans have a universal truth that can be held superior to any other system of belief.

In the sense of particularism, as regionally distinct beliefs, the Japanese are accepting of others since they are not consumed with the notion of liberal humanism being triumphant over all other beliefs. Though they aren't particular in the sense of reductionist thought. Contemporary Europeans, on the other hand, hold their beliefs to be universal and thus are not accepting of others. In fact, their exclusionary system of belief prevents them from understanding other cultures. It is a paradox that Western universalism expresses itself in multiculturalism where in neither the native culture nor the immigrant culture is respected. And hence European's continuing difficulties in getting along in the world without unnecessary conflict.



Europe has not been a global power since WW2, but it has done perfectly fine without it (granted, with American protection from the Soviets). I don't see any remaining identity crisis caused by the loss of empire in Europe, other than in England/France and Russia to some degree. The tensions and fractions you speak of exist because there has been a huge surge of immigration into Europe in the past decades. Hereby not all immigration groups cause problem, but Muslims and Arabs in particular do, because their values are largely incompatible with existing European ones.



Yes, but who chose the immigration policy and why? Or more tellingly, why can't Europeans face the subject without either politically correct dogma or reactionary right wing vitriol? It seems there is tension and contradiction in European beliefs.

I don't think it is reasonable for you to blame everything on Muslims.
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