[Rich]

First I want to say that I'm a progressive, I'm a Liberal. Just a No-Cuck Liberal. As opposed to Islamo-feminists and rap(e) culture Liberals. So for example in the eighties I supported the right of women to work in the mines, which was opposed by the bigots of the National Union of Miners. For those of you don't know, the NUM had the highest level of Communist support of all the major British unions. I supported the legalisation of homosexuality. It was illegal in the Soviet Union and Cuba. In Communist China, homosexuals were treated with electric shock therapy. I supported freely available contraception. Contraception was not freely available in the Soviet Union. in 1979 I welcomed the election of Margaret Thatcher and Maria de Lourdes Pintasilgo (despite her Papism). There had been no women heads of government in the SU, Eastern Europe or Cuba.

You see when the Soviet Panzers crossed the Afghan border on the morning of the 27th of Decemeber, they were not the progressive tribunes that myth has made them. They started off by murdering the leader of Communist Afghanistan, because they considered him to anti-Islamic. You see this is why'l l'll take no lectures from Commies on progressive issues.

And don't imagine its just Stalinists that behave this way. Gerry Healy, leader of the Workers Revolutionary Party, for a time Britain's' biggest Trotskyist organisation was a notorious rapist. This was a home for some of Britain's leading progressive actors and actresses. More recently we've had the rapist Martin Smith leader of the Socialist Worker Party. mostly far left leaders get away with it as they rely on members to bully their victims into not seeking justice in the "Capitalist courts". Considering what these Commies get away with in democracies under the rule of law one can only imagine what they get up to when they control the secret police.

in the same way the SJW hypocrites of Hollywood like Meryl Streep, Matt Daemon and Ben Affleck turned a blind eye to Weinstein's behaviour if they weren't actively involved in covering it up. Disgusting!

[Albert]

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41597159

Harvey Weinstein 'hopes for second chance'

Looks like an asshole, who is getting what he deserves. After all these years of being an asshole.

[blackjack21]

We already figured out the solution a century ago.
...
And we continue to press for it in solidarity.

You'll have to get through Drlee first... (gulp)

We are?

Oh, yeah. That's right! I forgot. Drlee is a conservative Republican.

I don't get it. Trump is a full on rapist and he's good. So did you make the thread to celebrate Weinstein? Or is Weinstein bad because he's just a rapist and not a rapist and a pedophile like Trump??

The American left purports to be opposed to this sort of thing, but its membership is rife with such characters and they are routinely given a pass. I don't care personally. If women are equal to men, they should be able to handle this sort of thing without their constant whining.

So your analysis is that women should just expect to always be raped?

If the scientific method matters more than left wing Godless morals, yes.

Come on TIG, the commies raped and plundered as good as anyone.

They sure did a number on German women after the fall of the Third Reich.

These women weren't raped, they traded sex for favors and now have buyers' remorse.

Seller's remorse, maybe? But yes, that's more or less the case.

If you are presented with the choice of having sex with someone and keeping your job, or saying no and losing your job, it is a crime.

No, it isn't. It is a civil matter. Sexual harassment has always been about taking money away from men and giving it to women.

In Communist China, homosexuals were treated with electric shock therapy.

Did it do any good?

in the same way the SJW hypocrites of Hollywood like Meryl Streep, Matt Daemon and Ben Affleck turned a blind eye to Weinstein's behaviour if they weren't actively involved in covering it up. Disgusting!

Meryl Streep joined a standing ovation to Roman Polankski, so she apparently has no problem with child rapists.

[Thompson_NCL]

If you are presented with the choice of having sex with someone and keeping your job, or saying no and losing your job, it is a crime.

If they are your employer, yes. But if they are only a prospective employer or just a person of influence who could perhaps give you help landing a job? That should not be illegal. Deeply unethical and immoral? Absolutely. But illegal? Nope.

Assuming he has acknowledged he tried to trade sex for influence, he should never work in the industry again. But criminal? Nope.

[Pants-of-dog]

Yes, undesired sexual contact, such as Weinstein allegedly committed, is a crime regardless of whether or not he is the employer.

[Rich]

Consent is key and the important thing to note about Trump's comments is that he claimed women were giving their consent. Now we may suspect that he has acted without consent, but certainly that hasn't been "proven" in a criminal court of law. The same currently applies for Weinstein of course but with Weinstein it certainly looks like he's going down in the fairly near future. He doesn't even seem to deny have committed criminal offences he just claims most of the accusations are not true.

But also lets note that if its immoral for men to offer advancement to women in return for sex, then it is immoral for women to accept. Its not like these women are facing starvation if they lose their place in the film industry. But of course in feminist land women are never responsible for their actions, unless they are praiseworthy. Its a bit like if a Sunni Arab goes and blows up a load of Kurdish, Christian or Shia women and children. Its not the Sunni Muslim man whose responsible but the (conveniently) imagined CIA/ Mossad agent who supposedly put him up to it.

Also if a man sexually abuses a women in a serious criminal way, it is her moral duty to report the criminal offence, as it is the duty of citizens to report murder and burglary. Feminists are hypocrites who half the time demand complete equality for women, but then demand women be treated like children incapable of asserting their civic rights.

[Finfinder]

If you are presented with the choice of having sex with someone and keeping your job, or saying no and losing your job, it is a crime.

William Jefferson Clinton

[B0ycey]

I wonder how long it will take before we have a 'Donald Trump, US's most idiotic president, is totally fucked.....' appear on PoFo?

If his boasts with Billy Bush are any indicator to go by, there must be numerous cases waiting to release themselves from the cupboard of doom!

[jessupjonesjnr87]

Sexual assault has nothing to do with politics or ideology. It happens in every facet of society, communists commit sexual assault, capitalists commit sexual asssult, anarchists, bhudists, christians, priests, carpenters, doctors.

It happens in the schools, the office, libraries, shops, nightclubs, parks even and often in the victims own home. Sexual assault is everywhere all the time. It's like rats, you're probably never more than six feet away from a location where some one has been sexually assaulted at some stage.

Some times it's minor sometimes it's major, some people aren't even aware whether they're the victim of sexual assault or not. Is the attacker guilty? Are they innocent? Sometimes it's impossible to know.

The point is there is no easy answer, it must be stopped and is a daming cancer on an already damnable society, one of many. Until we can reach an new level of enlightenment it will remain one of the many horrific side effects of a society consistantly traversing the wrong paths and reaching for the wrong goals.

[Pants-of-dog]

William Jefferson Clinton

You really love hating the Clintons, I see.

Sure, he could easily have also sexually abused people under his power. It would not surprise me at all. Same with Trump.

As long as we agree that is wrong to force someone to have sex by threatening their livelihood.

[Finfinder]

You really love hating the Clintons, I see.

Sure, he could easily have also sexually abused people under his power. It would not surprise me at all. Same with Trump.

As long as we agree that is wrong to force someone to have sex by threatening their livelihood.

I simply posted the name William Jefferson Clinton but I'll give you credit, very cleverly written reply. Try a little harder I can clearly see the hook a leader on the end of your fishing line.

[Pants-of-dog]

@Finfinder

Yes, when you replied to me, you did post a single name with no accompanying argument, logic, evidence, or intelligent criticism of anything else posted.

I agreed with what I assumed was your implied argument; i.e. that Clinton also is guilty of said crime.

I then pointed out that this "argument" of yours does not contradict mine.

Apparently, you believe I am trying to bait you into something by doing this.

[SpecialOlympian]

Watch out PoD. I know what finfinder do. He try change narrative.

Anyway, who is the better rapist? Trump or Weinstein?

[Bulaba Khan Jones]

That's a very good question, SO. Weinstein definitely did hugely more things to way more women than Trump without their consent, but Trump hasn't gotten into trouble for it. I suspect scholars will debate this question for years to come.

[Rich]

No Trump hasn't been brought down yet, and Trump has most certainly had rich and powerful enemies who have had a very strong interest in bringing him down. I'm no fanboi of Trump desperate to believe that he's going to make the West great again, it would greatly amuse me to see him brought down, but I can't help feeling that with Trump there is just not that much fire behind the smoke. If Trump had really gone about grabbing women's genitals on first meeting, I can't believe that even his wealth and influence would have protected him.

But maybe its also the fact that Weinstein posed was an Artist, who was supposedly deep and sensitive, who made films that dared to "speak truth to power". Young women (like young men) can often be incredibly nieve and stupid, but presumably even they could not mistake Trump for an SJW and an "artist". With Trump women knew what they were getting.

[Decky]

Harvey Weinstein eh? Never heard of him but I was unsuprised to find out he was some sort of millionare bigshot. Capitalists do not have morals like decent people do. No one ever got rich by doing the right thing.

[blackjack21]

Yes, undesired sexual contact, such as Weinstein allegedly committed, is a crime regardless of whether or not he is the employer.

Contact is a separate question and varies by jurisdiction. It's very unlikely that juries will convict if a defendant denies it and there is no other evidence but a he-said-she-said squabble. Similarly, reporting it well after the fact appears to be self-serving.

As it is, women just need to get over their heterophobia and their toxic femininity.

Consent is key and the important thing to note about Trump's comments is that he claimed women were giving their consent.

Exactly. The left embraces every weird gender identity and sexual practice except heterosexuality, which they seem to want to criminalize. I find it humorous that Hillary Clinton is sick over this, probably because Weinstein apparently isn't gay.

The same currently applies for Weinstein of course but with Weinstein it certainly looks like he's going down in the fairly near future. He doesn't even seem to deny have committed criminal offences he just claims most of the accusations are not true.

Yes, but we both know Weinstein's background and his political leanings means he will not face any criminal charges.

As long as we agree that is wrong to force someone to have sex by threatening their livelihood.

If deliberately giving someone HIV is going to be reduced to a misdemeanor, "grabbing them by the pussy" should be reduced to an infraction. You have to pay $500 and go to "sexual sensitivity" class or something. It's all so pointless. I'm sure the SCOTUS could find a right to grab people by the boobs under the 14th Amendment.

[Decky]

Yes, but we both know Weinstein's (((background))) and his political leanings means he will not face any criminal charges.

Hmmm

[colliric]

Looks like there's going to be collateral damage....

Good.

[Pants-of-dog]

Did some moron take Terry Crews's statements out of context? I am not bothering to watch the YouTube video to find out.