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Pants-of-dog wrote:So, you are simply going to again ignore all my points to repeat your original claim.

That's fine.

It does not change the fact that this man had all the power in these scenarios and that he abused that power, that he is being charged with both sexual harassment and sexual assault and that you have tried to excuse the former and completely ignored the latter, that there is no evidence to support the idea that these are false accusations, and that these women are risking their careers by speaking out about this.


No they're not. If they were they wouldn't be speaking out. Listen to some of the praise he got from these same women at Oscar time.
#14852661
skinster wrote:Actually, we do need to talk about men. Men like these abusers and rapists. Men like all these mass shooters. What's wrong with men?

Mass media prefers to problematize men rather than to problematize the modern technologies and modern roles that have ruined them. Mass media wants to sell more technologies so it can't criticize them at all. Instead, it is humanity that always needs to change.
#14852663
While Qatz is wrong when he claims I am accusing all men, it is important to note that in some cases, it is logical for a woman to assume that all men are potential rapists. Unfortunately.

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Suntzu wrote:No they're not. If they were they wouldn't be speaking out. Listen to some of the praise he got from these same women at Oscar time.


Use complete sentences. Your fragments here could mean a lot of things. Clarify.
#14852671
Pants-of-dog wrote:While Qatz is wrong when he claims I am accusing all men, it is important to note that in some cases, it is logical for a woman to assume that all men are potential rapists. Unfortunately.

You think you're making a sensible and prudent point here. But your motivations aren't as noble as they may seem to you and to many others.

In reality, you are waving your big, politically-correct schlong at all the other guys here on the forum, and all-the-while insinuating that other men have tiny, eraser-sized balls of rape and immorality.

You think you're enlightening people, but you're actually bullying them by proudly and mockingly wearing your hen-peckedness on your tattered Cindarella sleeve.
#14852674
Suntzu wrote:Are you the grammar fairy? :lol:


Are you unable to write your arguments in complete sentences that are actually clear?

Because if your only argument is that I think your posts are poorly written, you have no argument.

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QatzelOk wrote:You think you're making a sensible and prudent point here. But your motivations aren't as noble as they may seem to you and to many others.

In reality, you are waving your big, politically-correct schlong at all the other guys here on the forum, and all-the-while insinuating that other men have tiny, eraser-sized balls of rape and immorality.

You think you're enlightening people, but you're actually bullying them by proudly and mockingly wearing your hen-peckedness on your tattered Cindarella sleeve.


My motivation is unimportant. I could be doing this because a racist alien dog told me to.

My arguments would still be just as correct.

Also:
https://kateharding.net/2009/10/08/gues ... chrodinger’s-rapist-or-a-guy’s-guide-to-approaching-strange-women-without-being-maced/
#14852676
maz wrote:Remember the whole War on Women from a few years ago led by Sandra Fluke? Remember the whole college rape thing that was tilted to blame any random blond white college guy they could find? The whole Hobby Lobby abortion thing? Democrat party appears to have been doing all the screeching about abuses towards women but the entire time Hillary Clinton was being bankrolled by a top predator of women!

I'll go so far as to say that Weinsten's activities were just standard operating procedures. What about all the other offenders? Weinstein can't be the only one.

For the most part, I think these women are full of shit--especially Hillary Clinton. She went right along with Bill Clinton and trashed all sorts of women who came forward about Bill. The idea that she's somehow sickened by Weinstein when she played "stand by your man" throughout the Monica Lewinsky ordeal is par for the course. Lewinsky, of course, was reported to have said that she would need to have knee pads to serve in the White House. She knew exactly what she was doing. So do most of these actresses.

Pants-of-dog wrote:Because this thread is not about them and we have rules about taking threads off topic.

Hillary Clinton jumped right in and slammed Weinstein and purported to be "sick." A big part of the story is the institutional cover-up for people like Weinstein and Bill Clinton--and Hillary is part of that system.

SpecialOlympian wrote:Normal guys who want to exchange something of value so they can have sex with a woman go to a prostitute.

Or they give them a wedding ring--the entire purpose of marriage being heterosexual procreation.

SpecialOlympian wrote:It's not really "making a deal" when you're dealing with a starlet and you're the hottest producer in Hollywood.

That's exactly what it is...

SpecialOlympian wrote:Weinstein was rich as fuck, he could have banged an escort whenever he wanted. But he liked the power dynamic and being a power broker in entertainment.

Prostitution is illegal in California. Since these actresses are not "employees" in any traditional sense of an employment contract, it would be very difficult to establish some sort of sexual harassment allegation. So they are going with sexual assault in this case. So we get the very entertaining stories of a rich liberal masturbating in front of an actress. You yourself purported to be masturbating to comments I made about Donald Trump, resulting in the moderators here killing the most active thread the site has had.

Pants-of-dog wrote:You are still ignoring the power dynamic and the threat to livelihood, and trying to pretend this is not rape.

Not everybody is a Marxist. So not everybody thinks this "power dynamic" is anything more than a fancy phrase.

Pants-of-dog wrote:It could just as easily have been the case that Weinstein simply raped these young women and then told them that if they talked about it they would get blacklisted.

Now we're in to hypotheticals.

Pants-of-dog wrote:Also, there is a difference between sexual harassment, which os the "deal making" you keep referring to and which is also illegal, and sexual assault, which is rape and which Weinstein is also charged with.

There are no formal complaints against him as yet, are there?

Pants-of-dog wrote:But again, feel free to ignore these facts and keep claiming that unwanted sexual contact is okay if the person doing the unwanted sexual contact has some sort of economic power over the person who is not consenting.

Keep pretending that people with power of sexual attraction are not using that power to try to get money from people who have money and no sexual attraction. Sexual attraction and using it for power is what women do. Darwinian sexual selection doesn't stop at the door step of the human race, which is why Marxism is such a tedious ideology. Sex has been traded for food, violence, etc. long before there was a system of exchange, money, or capitalism.

skinster wrote:Actually, we do need to talk about men. Men like these abusers and rapists. Men like all these mass shooters. What's wrong with men?

We need to talk about Terry Crews. Why is he not naming the person who groped his balls? That is far more interesting, I think. After all, Terry Crews wasn't some poor person. He was a rich NFL guy who went in to acting. Maybe they thought it was okay to grope his balls, because he was black. Maybe people don't want to talk about it, because Terry Crews is a man and they are trying to kick start the "war on women" meme after Hillary's failed election. As far as I know, the Republicans didn't have a war on women. Apparently, a bunch of friends of the Clintons did though.

Suntzu wrote:Are you the grammar fairy? :lol:

No. Apparently, they were all amused by my retort to Drlee.
#14852681
What are they gonna charge this guy with, bein' a pervert. They have nothing but he said, she said. Most of it is years old. Even from the civil end where the burden of proof is less strenuous they have just about nothing. I agree, the guy is an asshole, a rich asshole. I hate 'em. Everyone knew what was going on. Nothing will happen to him much like Cosby.
#14852699
Suntzu wrote:No they're not. If they were they wouldn't be speaking out. Listen to some of the praise he got from these same women at Oscar time.



Pants-of-dog wrote:Use complete sentences. Your fragments here could mean a lot of things. Clarify.


Also, use whole nouns, please.
#14852727
I'm sure Trump also meant the elite's sexual decadence, of which he's absolutely not part of course, when he was talking about draining the swamp. :lol:

Anyways, it's impossible to make America greater than that because it's way over its apex. The best that can be expected is a really great party at the end. Parties in hell are always remarkable.

#14852817
Suntzu wrote:Don't read the posts you have trouble with. :lol:


If you feel comfortable writing posts that are unintelligible and seemingly unintelligent, that is fine. Just don’t expect us to answer them or try and parse an argument out of it for you.

If you are surprised he has not been arrested, then you are perhaps unaware of how difficult it is is to get a sexual assault conviction. Especially when you also have to worry about damage to your career and reputation, and when the attacker has lots of money and political connections.

Not to mention all the online trolls who will minimise rape by defining it as just a business deal and buyer’s remorse.
#14852833
maz wrote:https://twitter.com/jojoh888/status/919020526315687936

Remember the whole War on Women from a few years ago led by Sandra Fluke? Remember the whole college rape thing that was tilted to blame any random blond white college guy they could find? The whole Hobby Lobby abortion thing? Democrat party appears to have been doing all the screeching about abuses towards women but the entire time Hillary Clinton was being bankrolled by a top predator of women!

I'll go so far as to say that Weinsten's activities were just standard operating procedures. What about all the other offenders? Weinstein can't be the only one.


How about Ashley Judd's nasty woman speech at the women's march, apparently she knew for years about Weinstein , said he sexually harassed her and did nothing about it.
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