anarchist23 wrote:The Catalonians won't stand for this as it is reminiscent of the Franco days. The fascist Guardia Civil Police will have to deployed but they are despised by many of the Catalonians.
I said the Guardia Civil Police are a fascist force and what is happening now is reminiscent of the Franco regime.....The Guardia Civil are not ordinary police, they are military police. They are disliked in Catalona.
I've had many dealings with them and they are thugs. Squaddies
Thompson_NCL wrote:Are you serious quoting a fictional character from a Sci-Fi television show here?
In any event, they are a gendarmerie. Those are extremely common throughout the world. Comparing them to actual an military force as per the above quote is deeply flawed and reveals the simplicity of your thinking.
You've heard the phrase "If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck" haven't you?
The Guardia Civil are the group who tried to reimpose a military dictatorship long after the death of Franco, when in 1981 a group of 200 Guardia Civil officers tried to execute a coup against a then democratic government.
The fascists won the war in Spain and that the transition to democracy from a dictatorship was a painful compromise for anyone who wasn't fascist.
Arguably the transition generously accommodated the winners of the Spanish civil war in order to work, meaning the Guardia Civil and the Francoist political apparatus remained mostly intact through the transition.
In light of that, here are the actions the Spanish have taken so far:
1:The Civil Guard raided Catalan government buildings and arrested 14 senior governmental officials, establishing emergency rule.
2: The Spanish government has taken control of Catalonia’s public finances, suspending de facto self-government fiscally and legally.
3: The Civil Guard entered editorial offices of Catalan newspapers to forbid them from publishing referendum coverage, threatening criminal charges.
4: Spanish prosecutors office ordered 22 websites taken down and the Civil Guard raided the .cat domain foundation controlling Catalan domain names, a serious technical assault on Catalan culture.
5: The Civil Guard confiscated official campaign material and posters in favor of referendum from privately owned printing shops and business.
6: The Spanish Attorney General ordered questioning of more than seven hundred Catalan mayors for illegally supporting the referendum.
7: The Spanish prosecutor’s office ordered Spanish police to confiscate ballot boxes to stop the voting taking place on October the 1st.
8: The Spanish postal service has warned its staff not to handle referendum materials or facilitate it in any way at the request of the government.
9: Spanish authorities are flooding tens of thousands of Civil Guard units into the region to reinforce local forces that are already in place and have placed the Catalonian police force under the control of the Guardia Civil.
10: In a clear effort to calm growing tensions amongst those who worry about political violence on October the 1st (referendum day), the official Civil Guard twitter account tweeted that they are “the coming storm”.
IF I HAD UNDERSTOOD THE SITUATION A BIT BETTER I SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY JOINED THE ANARCHISTSGeorge Orwell