- 11 Nov 2017 15:15
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Tut tut. I’ve said nothing about law. You are reinforcing exactly what I am saying. What the majority of ones peers do is far more effective than any law.
Pictures you say? On google? I should totally try that.
Again, who said anything about law? I’m talking custom. Much stronger than law. Again reinforcing my point.
Right, so the people in charge of explaining and disseminating your religion and it’s traditions aren’t technically an authority or what?
It can be debated till the cows come home and not much will change because it comes from the actual people. That is what is so remarkable.
Are you done?! So now you’ve just told me to do research in a more long winded manner. You are more Lebanese than you are Persian, that’s for sure.
The fact that there are lots of people who follow conservative Islam in Iran and wear things they believe are religiously required does not mean its mandates by law.
The black cape is not required by law anywhere, yet many wear it specially in conservative provinces.
Hijab is not required to be worn in all provinces, yet you'll find women who wear it in provinces where its not obliged to be worn.
The argument isn't whether people wear such things or not, the argument you and politik are making is that its the law to wear it.
And in that you're wrong, its not the law to wear such things outside religious places and the modesty code as said exists in some places but not in others.
Infact, you don't need to go into the legal code of every province to know that, you can easily follow the arguments happening in the parliament where the clerics routinely try to enforce these laws on everyone by including it in the constitution and always keep failing to do that.
The enforcement of Islamic laws specially on public behavior, clothes and drugs is literally over half of what the parliament keep discussing because the clerics keep trying to get what they want.
Tut tut. I’ve said nothing about law. You are reinforcing exactly what I am saying. What the majority of ones peers do is far more effective than any law.
Not really no, as said while some places are more conservative than others in these regards, you can see women wearing all types of things (as in not all wear the black cape). You can easily find pictures on this.
Pictures you say? On google? I should totally try that.
I doubt you'll find lots of men wearing shorts anywhere in the middle east. This again doesn't mean its a law not to wear shorts.
So you're argument that its a law is again wrong.
Again, who said anything about law? I’m talking custom. Much stronger than law. Again reinforcing my point.
Technically speaking, Islam doesn't really include the head wear rule. Its more of a tradition thing that the Imams in old times codified into rules because the head scarf was a symbol of modesty and class for women and so they thought Islam wants modesty and this modesty. Not literally like this but metaphorically speaking, there was lots of debates on the topic between major Imams before it became codified in reality.
Right, so the people in charge of explaining and disseminating your religion and it’s traditions aren’t technically an authority or what?
It can be debated till the cows come home and not much will change because it comes from the actual people. That is what is so remarkable.
When you're arguing about something in the legal code or about the constitutional structure in a certain government, there isn't really multiple right answers because the system is already codified.
Iran is a federal system with an expanded role for local governments, the role of provincial governments is so large that their elections get more coverage than the presidential elections.
And yet every single time, westerners just ignore this and consider them irrelevant.
Which pretty much distorts the entire argument, and this is why there is a clear lack of understanding of Iranian politics and the inner workings of Iran.
Are you done?! So now you’ve just told me to do research in a more long winded manner. You are more Lebanese than you are Persian, that’s for sure.
The real problem of humanity is that we have Palaeolithic emotions, medieval institutions and godlike technology - Edward Wilson