- 06 Nov 2017 10:32
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1/ Liberals are very aware of law. Liberals follow it as much as the next person, and it holds as much importance as in any other ideology.
2/ Liberalism is not required for freedom of intellectual inquiry or a curious mind. That IS liberalism.
3/ Therefore liberalism is not required for democracy. It's not required, but it goes hand in hand with it.
4/ Social justice is a part of liberalism. Democratic socialism thrives with liberalism. Again, it isn't required, but it does play a big part of liberalism.
It's sad to see you don't actually understand what Liberalism is.
foxdemon wrote:The truth is liberalism is the ideology of the ascendancy of mercantile townsfolk, the bourgeoisie, over labour and the aristocracy. Liberalism = capitalism.That's not what Liberalism is. That you think it is related to an economic ideology, is just plain sad. Liberalism can thrive in a socialist economy, as well.
foxdemon wrote:Just to clarify a few points liberals seem to be confused about.
1/ rule of law predates liberalism. Therefore liberalism is not required for rule of law.
2/ acedemic freedom and an open mind predates liberalism. Therefore liberalism is not required for freedom of intellectual inquiry or a curious mind.
3/ democracy predates liberalism. Therefore liberalism is not required for democracy.
4/ social justice was a response to the inequities of liberal capitalism. It is an expression of socialism. Therefore liberalism is not required for social justice.
1/ Liberals are very aware of law. Liberals follow it as much as the next person, and it holds as much importance as in any other ideology.
2/ Liberalism is not required for freedom of intellectual inquiry or a curious mind. That IS liberalism.
3/ Therefore liberalism is not required for democracy. It's not required, but it goes hand in hand with it.
4/ Social justice is a part of liberalism. Democratic socialism thrives with liberalism. Again, it isn't required, but it does play a big part of liberalism.
It's sad to see you don't actually understand what Liberalism is.
“Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson