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By Beren
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Huffpost wrote:11/06/2017 05:51 pm ET Updated 6 minutes ago

Air Force Failed To Enter Church Shooter’s Domestic Violence Record In U.S. Database

As a convicted abuser, Devin Kelley was not legally allowed to purchase firearms. He fell through the cracks.

By Melissa Jeltsen

The Air Force said on Monday that it failed to record the Texas church shooter’s domestic violence conviction in a federal database that would have kept him from buying a gun.

That glaring oversight allowed Devin Patrick Kelley, 26, to pass multiple background checks and legally purchase firearms. The stunning admission from the Air Force raises critical questions about coordination between the military and the federal background check system that is designed to keep guns from those who have lost the right to purchase them.

On Sunday, Kelley opened fire on the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, east of San Antonio, killing 26 people and wounding 20 others. He was later found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Kelley, who served at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico, was convicted by a general court martial on two charges of domestic assault against his wife and stepson before being released with a bad conduct discharge in 2014.

Under federal law, his conviction prohibited him from buying or possessing firearms. But it appears Kelley’s domestic violence offense was never entered into the federal database that gun sellers use to check the criminal history of potential buyers.

“Initial information indicates that Kelley’s domestic violence offense was
not entered into the National Criminal Information Center database by the
Holloman Air Force Base Office of Special Investigations,” said Ann Stefanek, Air Force spokesperson, in a statement.

She added that the Air Force will conduct a comprehensive review to ensure records in other cases have been reported correctly.

The Air Force statement reads in part:

    WASHINGTON—The Air Force has launched a review of how the Service handled the criminal records of former Airman Devin P. Kelley following his 2012 domestic violence conviction.

    Kelley was convicted by a general court-martial on two charges of domestic assault against his wife and step-son under Article 128 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. He then served 12-months in confinement at Naval Consolidated Brig Miramar in California before being released with a Bad Conduct Discharge in 2014. He was also reduced in grade to E-1. Federal law prohibited him from buying or possessing firearms after this conviction.

    Initial information indicates that Kelley’s domestic violence offense was not entered into the National Criminal Information Center database by the Holloman Air Force Base Office of Special Investigations.

    Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson and Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. David Goldfein directed a complete review of the Kelley case by the Air Force Office of the Inspector General. The Service will also conduct a comprehensive review of Air Force databases to ensure records in other cases have been reported correctly. The Air Force has also requested that the Department of Defense Inspector General review records and procedures across the Department of Defense.


A spokesperson for Academy Sports + Outdoors, a sporting and hunting goods store, told HuffPost that Kelley purchased firearms at two of their locations, in 2016 and 2017. On both occasions, the sales were approved by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. If his domestic violence conviction had been logged in the system, Kelley would have been flagged as prohibited from purchasing guns.

While in the Air Force, Kelley was found guilty of strangling his then-wife by putting his hands around her neck, as well as striking her, pulling her hair and kicking her, on multiple occasions between June 2011 and April 2012.

He was also found guilty of striking a child under the age of 16 on the head and body “with a force likely to produce death or grievous bodily harm.” Don Christensen, a former chief prosecutor for the Air Force, told The New York Times that Kelley assaulted his stepson “severely enough that he fractured his skull.”

He was also accused of pointing a loaded firearm at his wife, but that charge was dismissed.

It appears that domestic violence was a thread through Kelley’s life.

At least two ex-girlfriends told NBC that he stalked them after they ended relationships with him. His first wife filed for divorce in 2012, the same year Kelley was court-martialed for the abuse of her and her son. He was remarried in 2014.

Authorities said that he had been fighting with his current wife’s family and had sent threatening texts to his mother-in-law, who sometimes worshipped at the Sutherland Springs church. Among his victims was his wife’s grandmother.

“There was a domestic situation going on within the family and the in-laws,” said Freeman Martin, a regional director of the Texas Department of Public Safety.

In some ways, Kelley’s profile is not that unusual. In the U.S., most mass shootings involve domestic violence, according to research from Everytown for Gun Safety, although many incidents do not make national news.

In 54 percent of mass shootings from 2009 to 2016 ― defined as incidents in which four or more people were fatally shot, not including the perpetrator ― the gunman shot a current or former intimate partner or family member. Everytown also found that in nearly half of these cases, the killer exhibited warning signs, such as recent acts of violence, threats or violation of a protective order.

This article has been updated with information about previous reports of threatening behavior and statistics on mass shootings.
By noir
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@Politiks

The difference is this guy (like the others before) was deranged man who didn't represent anyone but his sick mind. The followers of the religion of peace is totally different thing. They are indoctrinated and have the backing of their community. Sadly, the Muslim propaganda works and many repeating their line. The MSM is too biased to clarify the diffrence so they can go on with their lies.
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By Godstud
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No, this shooter was indoctrinated in a society that glorifies violence, and brain-washes its people into praising guns as a tool of freedom, and self-defense.
By Patrickov
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Godstud wrote:No, this shooter was indoctrinated in a society that glorifies violence, and brain-washes its people into praising guns as a tool of freedom, and self-defense.


If your totalitarian government has gun while you don't (as in Hong Kong under CCP), you will quickly find out that your freedom is VERY vulnerable, as you'll have no means to stop law-abusing tyrants.
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:lol: Your gun would not protect you against your government, which is armed with tanks, helicopters, drones and missiles. But hey, you can pretend.
By Patrickov
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Godstud wrote::lol: Your gun would not protect you against your government, which is armed with tanks, helicopters, drones and missiles. But hey, you can pretend.


Individual politicians cannot be fully protected by these macroscopic weapons 24/7 :knife:
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By Godstud
#14860160
That's amusing, but not actually true.
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By Godstud
#14860167
One idiot does not represent all Islam, just as Westboro Baptist Church doesn't represent all Christianity.

Typical Christians? I think not.
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By noir
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Murder is intrinsically part of Islam since inception. They call it jihad. All of them commited to it even the so called moderates. The westerners are too confuse to understand its uniqness which of course plays for their long term plans.
By noir
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it's always in the background.

Because of PC thought control, the MSM refuses to ask the right questions.

Paul Joseph Watson of New Media: "Let's say he posted anti-Muslim hate then shot up a mosque the next day. Would officials say no religious motive? "

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