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Zimbabwe’s military is in control of the capital and the state broadcaster and is holding President Robert Mugabe and his wife under house arrest in what appeared to be a coup against the 93-year-old Mugabe, the world’s oldest head of state.
The military was at pains, however, to emphasise it had not staged a military takeover, but was instead starting a process to restore Zimbabwe’s democracy. Still, the military appeared to have brought an end to Mugabe’s long, 37-year reign in what the army’s supporters praised as a “bloodless correction”.
South Africa’s African New Agency said last night Mugabe had negotiated with the military to allow his wife Grace “safe haven” in South Africa in return for him giving up power.
“Mugabe has negotiated for Grace to leave the country while he prepares to step down. Press conference tomorrow afternoon,’’ a security source said. “Soldiers indeed have the President and his presidential guard under siege. Zimbabweans are urged to stay away from the CBD.”
South Africa and other neighbouring countries were sending in leaders to negotiate with Mugabe and the generals to encourage the transition.
Potemkin wrote: Tell that to the people of Chile. Lol.
Seriously, just how naive are you?
I know, I know. I have lived a sheltered political life. If there’s a bloodless coup in a political party that’s a big deal for me. Military shit is the stuff of movies in my world
Potemkin wrote:Power grows from the barrel of a gun, ness31. Always and everywhere. Constitutions are merely the window dressing.
Rich wrote: And at the end of the day the majority voted for dictatorship
redcarpet wrote:No, the majority didn't vote Nazi. The Nazi Party only got like 32% in both 1932 & '33, that's not a majority
"First Hitler then us" was the Communist slogan.
Well, without the commies there would have been no Hitler. You reap what you sow.
Bulaba Jones wrote:It did have a robust economy, one of the greatest agricultural centers in all of Africa, and had decent standards of living. And then Mugabe became the equally racist version of his predecessor, only even more inept and corrupt.
Opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai said earlier it was "in the interests of the people" that Mr Mugabe "resign... immediately".
The army moved in after Mr Mugabe last week sacked Vice-President Emmerson Mnangagwa, signalling that he favoured his wife Grace Mugabe to take over his Zanu-PF party and thus the presidency.
The BBC's Andrew Harding, in Zimbabwe, says that if President Mugabe can be persuaded to step down officially it could help legitimise the military's dramatic intervention.
Potemkin wrote:And without Hitler, the commies never would have been able to take over half of Europe. You reap what you sow.
That's a very fair point Potemkin. In fact I would go further and say that there would have been no Soviet Union without the First World War.
Its my view that Brest Litsosk showed Lenin up as an empty suit. After that he lost the Left Social Revolutionaries and they started losing local Soviet elections in all the major cities - their power base. But even if you accept my harsh anti Communist viewpoint, its not like every other party wasn't an empty suit. In the Autumn of 1917 Russian was a society rapidly disintegrating in front of people's eyes. No party had an answer to the combined military economic and social crisis of 1917. A crisis orders of magnitude greater than the things we call crisis in the modern West.
It wasn't just Russia brought to the point of revolution, another word overused in modern times. For Serbia Russia, Austria, Hungary, Germany, Bulgaria, Italy, France, Britain, Japan and America WWI was a war of choice. A war driven by Conservatives and establishment Liberals. It certainly wasn't the left that dragged the world into war in 1914.
Tainari88 wrote:I heard Grace Mugabe has a deep love of extravagant and expensive items. Like some kind of jewel encrusted headboard. For me you can spot a corrupt leader with the shiny baubles they spend money on.She was supposedly a pretty typist from his office pool. 40 years his junior.
How any of that becomes a bid at the presidency is all about corruption.
If they are living like King and Queen Midas they are corrupt. No doubt of that.
And like last year I think it was to make the public pay millions for his son's birthday party. I mean, how an you justify that? Come on!
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