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The site operator, the public prosecutor, the Dutch embassy to the US, all concur that the kid was neither Muslim nor migrant, but just an ordinary 16-year old Dutch kid.

That's not going to impress Trump, who knows better than everyone else. The Muslim migrant beating up a white kid handicapped by his crutches fits his narrative too well. So it must be true. After all, Trump knows what's right and wrong.

Did a 'Muslim Migrant' Beat Up a Dutch Boy on Crutches?

Greenstijl, the web site that operates Dumpert, also stated that the attacker in the video was not a Muslim:

Moreover, the perpetrator was not a Muslim, let alone a migrant, but simply a Dutchman.
The official Twitter account of the Public Prosecution Service of North Holland also disputed the claim that the attacker in this video was a Muslim migrant. In a message posted on 29 November 2017, they explained that the video showed a May 2017 quarrel between two minors. The attacker, who was born in the Netherlands, was placed in the HALT Program, an alternative settlement for young first time offenders:


The Netherlands Embassy in the United States also took to Twitter to tell to President Trump that “facts do matter” and that the attacker in the video was not a Muslim migrant:
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This deputy leader of Britain First is part Jewish from her maternal side, according to her family history, and I thought she looked very exotic for a full-blooded British woman when I first saw her in their propaganda video. I presume that Britain First is a Jewish extremist group possibly funded by Israel. Paul Golding is Britain First's male leader and Golding is a Jewish surname, too. In 2015, when a neo-Nazi group threatened to hold a rally in a heavily Jewish neighborhood in northwest London, Fransen and Golding held what they called a “solidarity patrol” in the area, thus protecting British Jews from neo-Nazi thugs. Jared Kushner is a Jewish businessman married to Ivanka, who I suspect to be one of the sources of anti-Muslim bigotry in the administration, and we cannot confirm who was really responsible for the retweets.

A blog written for the Exposing Britain First group states: "I’ve been studying family history now for long enough to suspect that you aren’t completely British. Fransen is not a British name. So I decided to have a little dig around.

"Let’s start with your paternal grandparents; John Joseph Fransen, or rather Jan Jozef Wynand Fransen. Born in the Netherlands in 1927, Jan came to England with the Dutch Naval fleet."

The writer also examines the maternal side of Fransen's family and comes to the conclusion it's highly likely they were Jewish.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12 ... 83910.html
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Trump politically alienated the fucking British from the United States. One would think that should take a Herculean effort, being as the US and UK have been happily rubbing the rest of the world's nose in their shit for almost a century.

I'm actually rather impressed.

I'm sure the Fox News people that were crying helplessly about the US/UK manufactured not-real controversy rift over Churchill's bust repaired will be violently attacking Trump for this.

Also Jayden doesn't seem to know what Sharia means, nor that there is no constitutional protection for "freedom of speech" in Britain.
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The attacker in the video is a second generation Muslim immigrant. That is the claim and the authorities have gone out of their way to avoid denying it. I don't know if lefties are just stupid, but the whole point of the anti - Muslim immigration argument is thst problems don't stop at the first generation, on the contry the argument is that the nightmare is just beginning. Secondly no one claiming that anything more than a small minority are engaging in armed attacks, it is that these attacks are the tip of the iceberg of Muslim disloyalty, ingratitude, and tyranny. Take Northern Ireland, only a tiny minority were members of the provisional IRA, but this was just the tip of the iceberg of aggressive disloyalty, tolerance of violence, and antipathy towards Britain.
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Atlantis wrote:The site operator, the public prosecutor, the Dutch embassy to the US, all concur that the kid was neither Muslim nor migrant, but just an ordinary 16-year old Dutch kid.


It seems that they speak English in the Video, and there are black people in the gang that is filming. Are ordinary Dutch kids preferring English to Dutch and hanging out with black friends?

What to Jayda Fransen - she supports Zionism, she loves Israel and she hates Palestinians. She probably does not know that about 30% of expelled Palestinians were Christians, not Muslims.

It seems that some so-called "Natsees", especially female types, like Marine Le Pen, Jayda Fransen or Frauke Petry, are too stupid to understand that Muslims in Britain and in other Western countries are only the symptoms of a disease, but not the reason of this disease.

Or maybe these ladies are just pro-Israeli shills who know better but never talk about the reason why Muslims are today a problem in Western countries?

Did Muslims themselves change the migration laws in Western countries?
Who promoted the Muslim Migration to the Western countries?
Cui bono?

Why do all these so called "Natsees" never talk about the reasons of the problem and only address the symptoms?

In one video, re-tweeted by Trump, a Muslim destroys a statue of Mother Mary. Well, anybody with a basic education knows that Mother Mary is a Muslim Saint, according to the Holy Koran. So a Muslim that destroys a statue of a Muslim Saint is not a typical Muslim.


Mary (Arabic: مريم‎, translit. Maryam), the mother of Jesus (Isa), holds a singularly exalted place in Islam as the only woman named in the Qur’an, which refers to her seventy times and explicitly identifies her as the greatest of all women,[2][3][4] stating, with reference to the angelic saluation during the annunciation, "O Mary, God has chosen you, and purified you; He has chosen you above all the women of creation."[5] In the Quran, her story is related in three Meccan chapters (19, 21, 23) and four Medinan chapters (3, 4, 5, 66), and the nineteenth chapter of the scripture, titled "Mary" (Surat Maryam), is named after her. The Quran refers to Mary more often than the New Testament.[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_in_Islam


So if Jayda Fransen, Ann Coulter and Donald Trump believe that some Muslims hate Mother Mary because the Koran tell them to do this, then they are just stupid uneducated persons.

On the other hand, if these "Natsees" really care about Christian Saints, like Mary, who is also a Muslim Saint, why are they not offended by what Jewish Books say about Jesus Christ and the Mother Mary?

Other Talmudic narratives describe Jesus as the son of a Pantiri or Pandera, in a teaching context:[104]

Tosefta Hullin 2:24 "He told me of a word of heresy in the name of Jesus son of Pantiri"
Qohelet Rabbah 1:8(3) "He told me a word in the name of Jesus son of Pandera"

However, the parallel accounts in the Babylonian Talmud mention Jesus but do not mention the father's name:

Babylonian Abodah Zarah 17a "One of the disciples of Jesus the Nazarene found me"
Babylonian Abodah Zarah 17a "Thus I was taught by Jesus the Nazarene"

Pandera and alleged adultery by Mary

The Babylonian talmud contains narratives that discuss an anonymous person who brought witchcraft out of Egypt, and the person is identified as "son of Pandera" or "son of Stada". The Talmud discusses whether the individual (the name Jesus is not present in these passages) is the son of Stada, or Pandera, and a suggestion is made that the mother Mary committed adultery.[97]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_ ... ry_by_Mary


So let it sink, all these "Natsees", including Trump, support Zionism and are not offended by how the Talmud depicts Mary, but they are sure that if an idiot, called Muslims, destroys the statue of Mary, then this is due to the Koran.
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ThirdTerm wrote:https://twitter.com/JaydaBF/status/935937909294817281

This deputy leader of Britain First is part Jewish from her maternal side, according to her family history, and I thought she looked very exotic for a full-blooded British woman when I first saw her in their propaganda video. I presume that Britain First is a Jewish extremist group possibly funded by Israel. Paul Golding is Britain First's male leader and Golding is a Jewish surname, too. In 2015, when a neo-Nazi group threatened to hold a rally in a heavily Jewish neighborhood in northwest London, Fransen and Golding held what they called a “solidarity patrol” in the area, thus protecting British Jews from neo-Nazi thugs. Jared Kushner is a Jewish businessman married to Ivanka, who I suspect to be one of the sources of anti-Muslim bigotry in the administration, and we cannot confirm who was really responsible for the retweets.

And my respect for another poster bites the dust :excited:

She's half Jewish so Britain First is now an Israeli-funded Jewish extremist group and there's even a connection to DONALD DRUMPF to be found through the Jews. I mean wow, not like I've never criticized a Jew or Judaism before but wtf is this shit.
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I love it when crutchy-dutchies get what they deserve.

No matter what a person's language, age, creed or ethnic origin, there is one thing which unites all of humanity: a visceral and instinctive hatred of the Dutch. It's a truly beautiful thing, Saeko.... *wipes away a single tear* :)
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Also Jayden doesn't seem to know what Sharia means, nor that there is no constitutional protection for "freedom of speech" in Britain.


It is common on the British right both in government and out of it, they go on about freedom of speech and when you point out that we are not the United States and that freedom of speech is not now and has never been a thing here they look at you as if you are mad.
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Interesting times for contemporary European history students. There was a time (till the late 60's) that only the far right hold the views that is currently held by the BBC and the liberal Human Rights cult. At that time, the Neo-Nazi machinations in Arab states, had a common cause in the creation of a third bloc of nations to offset the two superpowers.

Intellectual fashions and international alignments had changed. The Arab genius since the late 60's was to frame their hate propaganda in left-wing instead of right-wing terms, and addressed to an audience accustomed to a somewhat different frame of allusion. The Arab propagandists no longer requires the heavy weaponry of old Neo Nazis themes, or establishing a pirate radio station on a boat outside British territorial waters, the BBC has likewise played its own part in the establishment of this pro Arab ascendancy. It was particularly successful with liberal and leftist circles in Western Europe and North America.



The best-known case occurred in London in 1962, when the Egyptian military attache, Lieut Gen Sa'ad el-Shazly, was approached by John Tyndall, National Secretary of the National Socialist Movement, an extreme right-wing group devoted to nazism, fascism, and anti-Semitism, with proposals for joint anti-Jewish actions. Tyndall proposed that for the payment of £15,050 in the first trial period of a year, his organisation would help the Arab cause in Britain by establishing a pirate radio station on a boat outside British territorial waters,which would beam pro Arab propaganda to London and South England two hours every day, and that it would also print and distribute three hundred thousand leaflets and thousands of pamphlets. 50 years later and the Arab (Palestinan) cause become a respective cause, in fact the most cherish one. The BBC has likewise played its own part in the establishment of this ascendancy.

By the 1960s, Arab activities in Europe had greatly increased. Arab diplomats, Arab League offices, and thousands of Arab students in European universities all contributed to a much stronger Arab presence. Networks were established between Arabs and neo-Nazi and fascist movements eager to build close links with the Arab world. A European Nazi-Arab network emerged to exchange information on world affairs and facts concerning Jewish activities in all countries. It also fostered suitable liaisons with Arab representatives. Many of these Nazi and fascist groups aimed at building a European Middle East policy. In Germany, the head of the Arab office in Bonn, Hassan Awat Fakoussa, an attaché at the Egyptian Embassy, published a weekly information bulletin that contained much material from the neo-Nazi press (Deutsche National-Zeitung, Deutsche Wochen-Zeitung). One of the leading figures in the German neo-Nazi movement, a former SS officer named Karl Ernst Priester, was a founding member of the European Social Movement. After his death, a police investigation revealed that he was one of the chief European agents for the Arab League.


In Austria, the right-wing organs were Reichsruf and Nation Europa, a monthly for intellectuals. In Belgium, Paul E. Laurent, a former Belgian SS sympathizer, headed the Centre de Documentation pour la Collaboration avec les Peuples Arabes and kept links with the fascist movements Jeune Europe, EuropaFront, and Europe Réelle. In the United Kingdom, the British leader of the Nazi National Socialist Movement, Colin Jordan, maintained Arab-Nazi cooperation. In Sweden, the C. E. Carlberg Foundation in Stockholm supported this collaboration and close contacts with Arabs, particularly with what was then the United Arab Republic of Egypt and Syria (UAR). Such links developed also with Italian fascist movements.

Thus, postwar fascist and neo-Nazi groups endeavored to establish a widespread network throughout Europe. Many were funded by the Arab League. Despite their racist ideology, some sought the Arab alliance because they shared the same hatred of Israel. They opened offices in various key cities—Strasbourg, Vienna, Lausanne, and Malmö, an important conference center in Sweden, and elsewhere.

In Sweden, Bjorn Lundahl, head of the C. E. Carlberg Foundation, a neo-Nazi front, had a Klan membership card signed by Imperial Wizard Sherman Miller of Waco, Tex. was tied to Arab plotters by The Stockholm Expressen invastigation. One of the documents was a pledge signed by Lundahl promising to “help Egypt with a Swedish army of 5,000 infantrymen, completely equipped, against Israel.” Lundahl, who had had numerous meetings with Kamel Hamed, former first secretary of the Egyptian Embassy in Stockholm, also pledged that “after seizing power in Sweden, we will confiscate Jewish property, arrest all enemies of the Egyptians, prohibit Jewish immigration to Israel and solve the Jewish problem with Egyptian assistance.”

Lundahl has been arrested and charged with “armed threat against lawful order,” an offense that could jail him for Stockholm newspapers praised the Expressen and the police for “a fine capture,” voiced concern about Sweden's image abroad, and consternation about the link to the United Arab Republic. One paper, in an editorial entitled “A Handful of Madmen,” said: “The whole matter is unpleasant— partly because it has gone on for such a long time, partly because 20 years after Hitler, there are those who dream about a return to Nazism.




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