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Potemkin wrote:Nationalism is utterly incapable of resolving the internal contradictions thrown up by capitalism in its current stage of development. What answers does it have? Autarchy? Tarriffs? Mercantilism? Aggressive wars of conquest? Been there, tried that, didn't work. Nationalism, in its traditional sense, died in 1945 and the capitalist elite have no interest in reviving it. Endless national rivalries, destructive wars and genocides and economic autarchy hold little or no appeal for most of the population either. No, some form of internationalism is the future- either capitalist globalisation under the control of a tiny oligarchic elite, or internationalist socialism under the control of the working people themselves. History has no reverse gear.

You fail to take into consideration the concept of proletarian nationalism , and its relationship to the theory of Maoist Third Worldism . Not all of us whom regard ourselves as revolutionary socialists concur with the proletarian internationalism of those such as the Trotskyists . Instead we confess that different nations , and populations are at varying stages of societal development . And so , in our opinion , a one size fits all approach just won't be effectively appropriate .
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ThirdTerm wrote:According to the pigmentation section of their paper (Bruce et al. 2018), Cheddar Man has a higher probability of having intermediate skin color (0.394) than La Braña 1 (0.042), when ancestral alleles are used. The darkest possible skin pigmentation for both La Braña 1 and Cheddar Man is highly unlikely and the authors concede that more research is need to clarify to what degree Cheddar Man has a dark complexion. I think Cheddar Man's facial reconstruction shown on the TV documentary is unusually dark for a half Asian and half European man and it's more difficult to predict pigmentation values for admixed individuals. There is a 39% chance that Cheddar Man's skin pigmentation is in the intermediate range and I assume that Cheddar Man was just as brown-skinned as the La Braña individual from Spain.

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That is a reasonable analysis. To be honest, I am surprised the specimen had blue eyes. My thinking is that white people originated in what is now Afghanistan maybe 6000 - 8000 years ago as a result of isolation and inbreeding. That this specimen had light coloured eyes and his skin was not heavily pigmented forces me to reconsider. Clearly those genes resulting in low pigment phenotypes were more prelevant and geographically wide spread at an earlier time than I had realised.

As regards contemporary popular politics, this evidence has the opposite effect on my thinking than the PC people intend. It suggests what we think of as white phenotype has been definitive of the gene pool in Britain longer than we think. Previously I would have said the Celts where the first Indo-Europeans in Britain, and they only turned up a few hundred years before the Romans. Clearly this view is now untenable.
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