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A man who is critically ill after being exposed to an unknown substance in Wiltshire is a Russian national convicted of spying for Britain, the BBC understands.
Sergei Skripal, who is 66, was granted refuge in the UK following a "spy swap" between the US and Russia in 2010.
He and a woman in her 30s were found unconscious on a bench at a shopping centre in Salisbury on Sunday afternoon.
The substance has not been identified.
Police are investigating whether a crime has been committed, following the incident at the Maltings shopping centre.
Col Skripal, who is a retired Russian military intelligence officer, was jailed for 13 years in 2006 for spying for Britain.
■ Sergei Skripal: Who is the former Russian colonel?
He was convicted of passing the identities of Russian intelligence agents working undercover in Europe to the UK's Secret Intelligence Service, MI6.
Russia said Col Skripal had been paid $100,000 for the information, which he had been supplying from the 1990s.
He was one of four prisoners released by Moscow in exchange for 10 US spies in 2010, as part of a swap. Col Skripal was later flown to the UK.
He and a woman, aged in her 30s, are both in intensive care at Salisbury District Hospital.
A number of locations in the city centre were cordoned off and the A&E department was closed as teams in full protective gear used hoses to decontaminate the street.
Neighbours at Sergei Skripal's home in Salisbury say police arrived around 17:00 GMT on Sunday and have been there ever since.
They said he was friendly and in recent years had lost his wife.
Eyewitness Freya Church told the BBC it looked like the two people had taken "something quite strong".
She said: "On the bench there was a couple, an older guy and a younger girl. She was sort of leant in on him, it looked like she had passed out maybe.
"He was doing some strange hand movements, looking up to the sky."
In a statement on Monday evening, Wiltshire Police said the pair had no visible injuries but were found unconscious.
Temporary Assistant Chief Constable Craig Holden said: "Because we are still at the very early stages of the investigation, we are unable to ascertain whether or not a crime has taken place."
The force is appealing for anyone with information to call them immediately on 999, adding officers do not believe there is any risk to the wider public.
Public Health England said in an updated statement that its specialists would be joining a "specially-convened group" to consider the Salisbury incident.
What were the charges against Col Skripal?
Col Skripal was convicted of "high treason in the form of espionage" by Moscow's military court in August 2006. He was stripped off all his titles and awards.
He was alleged by the Russian security service (FSB) to have begun working for the British secret services while serving in the army in the 1990s.
He had been passing information classified as state secrets and been paid for the work by MI6, the FSB claimed.
Col Skripal pleaded guilty at his trial and co-operated with investigators, reports said at the time.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43295134
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The BBC are now comparing this case to that of Alexander Litvinenko.....

Vladimir Putin must of given the go ahead in both cases.

Alexander Litvinenko was a former officer of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and KGB, who fled from court prosecution in Russia and received political asylum in the United Kingdom.

On November 1, 2006, Litvinenko suddenly fell ill and was hospitalized. He died three weeks later, becoming the first confirmed victim of lethal polonium-210-induced acute radiation syndrome. Litvinenko's allegations about the misdeeds of the FSB and his public deathbed accusations that Russian president Vladimir Putin was behind his unusual malady resulted in worldwide media coverage.

Subsequent investigations by British authorities into the circumstances of Litvinenko's death led to serious diplomatic difficulties between the British and Russian governments. During the 2014–2015 trial the Scotland Yard representative witnessed that "the evidence suggests that the only credible explanation is in one way or another the Russian state is involved in Litvinenko's murder". Another witness stated that Dmitry Kovtun had been speaking openly about the plan to kill Litvinenko that was intended to "set an example" as a punishment for a "traitor". The main suspect in the case, a former officer of the Russian Federal Protective Service (FSO), Andrey Lugovoy, remains in Russia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoni ... Litvinenko
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Treason doesn't pay it seems. I don't know why Britain accommodates these people in the first place. I bet Putin would give the British government a load of money if we just arrested them all and flew them back to Russia to stand trial.
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I can remember this infamous assassination in London...

Georgi Ivanov Markov was a Bulgarian dissident writer, broadcaster, playwright, anti-Communist dissident
Markov originally worked as a novelist and playwright in his native country, then governed by a communist regime under chairman Todor Zhivkov, until his defection from Bulgaria in 1968. After relocating, he worked as a broadcaster and journalist for the BBC World Service, the US-funded Radio Free Europe, and Germany's Deutsche Welle. Markov used such forums to conduct a campaign of sarcastic criticism against the incumbent Bulgarian regime, which, according to his wife at the time of death, eventually became "vitriolic" and included "really smearing mud on the people in the inner circles".

On 7 September 1978, Markov walked across Waterloo Bridge spanning the River Thames, and waited at a bus stop to take a bus to his job at the BBC. He felt a slight sharp pain, as a bug bite or sting, on the back of his right thigh. He looked behind him and saw a man picking up an umbrella off the ground. The man hurriedly crossed to the other side of the street and got in a taxi which then drove away.The event is recalled as the "Umbrella Murder" with the assassin claimed to be Francesco Gullino, codenamed "Piccadilly".

When he arrived at work at the BBC World Service offices, Markov noticed a small red pimple had formed at the site of the sting he had felt earlier and the pain had not lessened or stopped. He told at least one of his colleagues at the BBC about this incident. That evening he developed a fever and was admitted to St James' Hospital in Balham, where he died four days later, on 11 September 1978, at the age of 49. The cause of death was poisoning from a ricin-filled pellet.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgi_Markov




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Putin - he's so stupid. So stupid that he tries to make a special attempt to poison the former spy immediately before the presidential elections in Russia. Probably, he likes when his rating falls two weeks before the election. Yes, even on such a small issue, as for a long time no one was an interesting defector.

And today's drop in the transport plane An-22 in Syria with 32 dead. The voices are already sounding massively, that in this way Russia is masking losses of a private military company, Wagner. And also right before the election ... I wonder, for the remaining time before the election, Putin still a lot of the same kind of right actions will be committed? What's in the queue? Another chemical attack of Assad? Russian bombing of democratic hospitals? The murder of informant WADA Rodchenkov?

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I wonder how the western inhabitants can believe in all this nonsense.
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If Putin is stupid, he's stupid like a fox. (I think that was a Simpsons term?). He may not succeed on every enterprise, but he is exceptionally talented at manipulating people, both domestically and internationally.
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Balancer wrote:Putin - he's so stupid. So stupid that he tries to make a special attempt to poison the former spy immediately before the presidential elections in Russia. Probably, he likes when his rating falls two weeks before the election. Yes, even on such a small issue, as for a long time no one was an interesting defector.

And today's drop in the transport plane An-22 in Syria with 32 dead. The voices are already sounding massively, that in this way Russia is masking losses of a private military company, Wagner. And also right before the election ... I wonder, for the remaining time before the election, Putin still a lot of the same kind of right actions will be committed? What's in the queue? Another chemical attack of Assad? Russian bombing of democratic hospitals? The murder of informant WADA Rodchenkov?

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I wonder how the western inhabitants can believe in all this nonsense.


The elections in Rusisa are a farce so he dont really need to care that much about his popularity since hes gonna win anyway especially when the opposition is full of clowns

this death among other just point out on obvious well known facts that Putin kill the people who just know too much
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Zionist Nationalist wrote:The elections in Rusisa are a farce


Unfortunately, your head is filled with Western propaganda. Yes, Putin's rivals have no chances. But this is not an excuse for Putin to relax. If he sinks to the level of his competitors, he will lose power.
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Putin is popular but mostly because the Russian public is too dumb to understand whats going on and Putin doing everything to make himself look like a savior of Russia

Putin did nothing good for his country all of Russian economic rise was due to oil price every other president would achieve the same results

There have been election debates recently in Russia guess who didnt bothered to show up? I think you know the answer :lol:
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anarchist, put the BBC in the bin. It's atrocious these days. As bad as CNN.

Zagadka wrote:but he is exceptionally talented at manipulating people, both domestically and internationally.


I think you spelt 'mainstream media and politicians' wrong. :D
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Zionist Nationalist wrote:Putin did nothing good for his country all of Russian economic rise was due to oil price every other president would achieve the same results


Unfortunately, you can not see the internal processes in Russia from abroad. And in the Western media about the Russian leadership, it is usually customary to write only negative :) But we in Russia can compare different politicians from within. Undoubtedly, there are other worthy economists in Russia. But, surprisingly, they all work in a team with Putin :) In addition, the president does not have to be a strong economist. He must be a good leader, who can assemble good economists and enable them to work effectively.

In a word, there are worthy candidates for the presidency in Russia. But they all already work in the presidential team and do not plan to participate in the elections :) And those who want to participate in presidential elections today are clowns or losers.

For example, Sobchak today made an act that would finally bring down her already ridiculous popularity - she asked the Ukrainian government for permission to enter the Crimea. Not only will this completely drop its rating in Russia, it also puts Kiev in the position of zugzwang :) Whatever answer Kiev gives, it will be a bad answer :D If Kiev allows it to enter the Crimea, it recognizes the legitimacy of the election of the Russian president in The Crimea. If banned, it will show that he does not want to go to meet the Putin opposition and support a candidate who considers the Crimea Ukrainian ...

By the way, oil is only about 1/3 of modern Russian income. Therefore, oil prices affect the standard of living in Russia much less than it is commonly believed in the West.
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By the way, oil is only about 1/3 of modern Russian income. Therefore, oil prices affect the standard of living in Russia much less than it is commonly believed in the West.


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Unfortunately, you can not see the internal processes in Russia from abroad. And in the Western media about the Russian leadership, it is usually customary to write only negative :) But we in Russia can compare different politicians from within. Undoubtedly, there are other worthy economists in Russia. But, surprisingly, they all work in a team with Putin :) In addition, the president does not have to be a strong economist. He must be a good leader, who can assemble good economists and enable them to work effectively.



I speak Russian and I know whats going on in the Russia and its media

Russian media is completely under putins influence all of Russian channels praising all of the program hosters are completely pro putin
every one who oppose putin is being ridiculed and being called "liberast"

lets not ingore all the online consorship including youtube which are being done to shut the alternative opposition

Putin have put Russia into a lost game

Russia cant compete with the west when the west economy is 20 time bigger. Russia stand no chance and Putin knows that he just hope for the least worst possible outcome but none will tell you that on the Russian TV channels (maybe except dozhd)
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Zionist Nationalist wrote:than explain this


Compare with this. The US economy also depends on the high price of oil? :)

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Zionist Nationalist wrote:I speak Russian and I know whats going on in the Russia and its media


There is a big difference between information about the country from the media and from the immediate life in it :)

Zionist Nationalist wrote:Russia cant compete with the west when the west economy is 20 time bigger.


And is someone talking about a break in Russia's economic relations with the West? No, these relations depend little on current policies. And even more so Russia's relations with China and other countries do not depend on Western policy.
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Compare with this. The US economy also depends on the high price of oil?



oil price are affecting the US economy in some way but not too much definitely not like in Russia

http://www.artberman.com/wp-content/upl ... 15_150.jpg


And is someone talking about a break in Russia's economic relations with the West? No, these relations depend little on current policies. And even more so Russia's relations with China and other countries do not depend on Western policy.



The sanctions are hurting the Russian economy only idiots think they dont

and Putin have put Russia in a loop of unending sanctions

only thing that save Russian economy from a complete collapse is the European dependence on its gas
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Zagadka wrote:If Putin is stupid, he's stupid like a fox. (I think that was a Simpsons term?). He may not succeed on every enterprise, but he is exceptionally talented at manipulating people, both domestically and internationally.

Tell me about it. Not only did he single-handedly cause Brexit, Trump, and the trouble in Catalonia last year - he also had time to rig the Italian election while simultaneously working on his own campaign. He's a busy guy.
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