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anarchist23 wrote: I was shopping when, right in front of me, this guy keels over, he cuts his head open, he's frothing at the mouth, fitting. Tangled up in his shopping basket. I rested his head on a packet of toilet rolls. The paramedics asked for my name and phone number and took him away.
This isn't about you, this is about the human family and this present moment. Nonetheless, you're a living member of the human family. What can you do to improve yourself? Let's start with the SELF and work our way out.
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Albert wrote:Some weird stuff going on in England these days.
You mean Earth. See, you're limiting or localizing acts of human consciousness. For now on let's us address the whole thing, not just a fragment of it. Weird stuff is going on yes, but what is this weird stuff and where does it come from? If we have a problem in England, we must have a problem on planet Earth. England is symptomatic of planet Earth, is it not?
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RhetoricThug wrote:Why? What's wrong with the forum image, RT? Perhaps you should thoroughly explore any kind of sentiment which challenges the relative interpretation of 'things' you place faith in.


It just seems a bit off-topic, that's all. I know your point is to take the focus off the actual topic, but anyway...

Rich wrote:This has Mossad written all over it.


I think M15 is more likely, given geography.

We are seeing ever more aggression against Assad, his Shia allies in Syria and his Russian backers. While Israel might have been happy with a Syria split between Al Qaeda and ISIS, Israeli officials admitted as much, any "more moderate" Sunni Arab regime, that would have legitimacy was worse than Assad. The Israelis don't like Assad, but his lack of legitimacy, his lack of support amongst Syria's Sunni Arab majority makes him far less of a threat than a unitary half way legitemate Sunni Arab regime.


Assad isn't opposed to Sunnis. He married one. Most of the army are of that sect. Why do you keep pushing this nonsense? Can you prove it at least?

Decky wrote:Top post 10/10 would read again.


:lol:

anarchist23 wrote:Yes. Like something out of a film.


Agreed. No doubt for different reasons.
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skinster wrote:It just seems a bit off-topic, that's all. I know your point is to take the focus off the actual topic, but anyway...
The actual topic, ah I see, now what is that, skinster? Can we explore the processes behind the actual topic? Can we say that the actual topic occurred within the mind of man and made its way out of the body only to appear before us as a manifestation of our perception? If so, I suppose we must question the origin of perception, and trace its metamorphosis. When or how, who or what, made the decision to become the unbecoming element of death and destruction?

What parties are in infested with and invested in hate? See, when a child is born, does it naturally harbor hate, or is this an acquired trait? You wish to discuss the 'matter of fact,' the expression of thought, the conclusion of action; so you piece together (f)actors and (f)actions, bludgeon your neighbors' politics or conscience, and criticize/critique our past and future. Nonetheless, you're totally absorbed by the blossoms falling individually from the tree of life. Which is to say, you think that the actual topic is the end result of very ancient processes. Not true, Skinster. The actual topic is the tree of life, it is the perception of man, the total human experience. Now you see... If you take away the tree of life, no blossoms, no factors, no actors, no state, no party, no politics. So why is it that you only discuss the temporary conclusions of a 'thing' which happens to BE present everyday, everywhere?

You're the one taking the focus off the actual topic. I simply wish to engage in dialogue and see this present moment for what it is. One mustn't provide fragmented solutions to a holistic problem. When the mind is sick, do you examine the lips? The lips may move and say many unhealthy things, but it's the mind that's responsible for the words which spew from the lips. Peace be with you, Skinster.
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Theresa May has said it is "highly likely that Russia was responsible" for the Salisbury nerve agent attack.

The Prime Minister has been been updating MPs on the poisoning of ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia, following warnings from a senior Tory MP that the incident amounted to "state-sponsored attempted murder".


Foreign Affairs Committee chairman Tom Tugendhat said he would be surprised if the Prime Minister - who chaired high-level talks on the Salisbury nerve agent attack today - did not blame the Kremlin.
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May under pressure to act against Russia over poisoning of spy

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 51291.html

A former Russian spy and his daughter were poisoned by a military-grade nerve agent of a type developed by Russia, Theresa May has told MPs.
The prime minister said the government had concluded it was "highly likely" that Russia was responsible for the attack on Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia in Salisbury on 4 March.
She said Russia's ambassador in London had been summoned to explain whether it was "a direct action by the Russian state" or the result of it "losing control" of its stock of nerve agents.
The chemical used in the attack, the PM said, has been identified as being part of a group of nerve agents known as "Novichok".
Mrs May said Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson had told the ambassador Moscow must "immediately provide full and complete disclosure" of the Novichok programme to the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.
She said the UK would consider his response before deciding what action to take, but added: "Should there be no credible response, we will conclude that this action amounts to an unlawful use of force by the Russian state against the United Kingdom."
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Sixty-six-year-old retired military intelligence officer Sergei Skripal and his daughter, 33, were found slumped on a bench in Salisbury city centre. They remain in a critical but stable condition.
Det Sgt Nick Bailey, who fell ill attending the pair, remains seriously ill in hospital but has been talking to his family.
Addressing the Commons following a meeting of the Government's National Security Council, Mrs May told MPs the positive identification of this chemical agent was made by experts at the UK's Porton Down laboratory.
She said Russia has previously produced the agent and would still be capable of doing so.
The decision to point the finger at Moscow was based on "Russia's record of conducting state-sponsored assassinations and our assessment that Russia views some defectors as legitimate targets for assassinations", the PM added.
Police activity continued on Monday afternoon, with officers - some wearing hazardous materials suits- removing a white van from the village of Winterslow, about six miles from Salisbury.
A Sainsbury's car park in Salisbury was also sealed off by police.
By RhetoricThug
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^More gossip, little examination of substance (*thus little examination of thought). There's an obscure disconnection between mind and matter and therefore matter appears before us as a thing-in-itself, abstracted from the whole of mind. In reality, it is the mind that's directly responsible for the physical appearance of substance. When you gather news articles, you're reporting the past and ignoring this present moment. There will be more conflict as long as we're unable to examine the manifestation of thought. Before this thread, there was poison. Before the poisoning, there was thought. Now you see, it's the process of thought that creates these patterns of perception.

The impulse of thought
When a bird is hungry, does seed come to the bird or does the bird come to the seed?

Former Russian spy for MI6 poisoned in UK. Is this the handiwork of the Russian FSB?

It's the handiwork of thought.
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RhetoricThug wrote:^More gossip, little examination of substance (*thus little examination of thought). There's an obscure disconnection between mind and matter and therefore matter appears before us as a thing-in-itself, abstracted from the whole of mind. In reality, it is the mind that's directly responsible for the physical appearance of substance. When you gather news articles, you're reporting the past and ignoring this present moment. There will be more conflict as long as we're unable to examine the manifestation of thought. Before this thread, there was poison. Before the poison, there was thought. Now you see, it's the process of thought that creates these patterns of perception.



It's the handiwork of thought.


WTF is that are you high?
By RhetoricThug
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Zionist Nationalist wrote:WTF is that are you high?
Excuse me good sir, I don't inner-stand the question. No, I'm not high. What's troubling you?
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If spooks can concoct stories about WMDs as pretext for war, why should they not concoct a story about a Russian nerve gas attack on British soil?

Why would the FSB disclose such sensitive weapons to kill a second rate former spy? It doesn't make any sense.

For Thereas May, on the other hand, it would be the ideal plot to make people forget all about the Tory Brexit mess, to which there is no good solution. She will demand that Nato members support GB in the hour of need, and let's just forget about all those pesky commercial issues.

If Erdogan can bomb the Kurds to win an election and Trump can start a trade war to arouse jingoistic sentiments among his followers, why should May not ref up tensions with Russia, if it's for the good of the country?

Clearly, Boris Johnson's visit to Moscow didn't produce the desired results. Perhaps the Russians didn't want to fuck the EU together with the Brits.
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The British empire is giving the Russians an ultimatum, cave in by midnight, or else ...

Behind the scenes, British politicians are lobbying Nato countries to invoke Article 5.

Britain Sounds Allies Out About Invoking NATO Treaty

Quick, Theresa May needs a war, no matter what war ...

The killing of a second-rate retired Russian spy under unexplained circumstances as pretext to go to war ... even Hitler would not have stooped that low.

The nerve gas could have been produced by anybody who knows its formulation, that includes MI6 and probably dozens of other organisations.
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Some years ago, the United States and Uzbekistan quietly negotiated a bilateral agreement to provide American aid in dismantling and decontaminating one of the former Soviet Union's largest chemical weapons testing facilities.

Soviet defectors and American officials say the Chemical Research Institute, in Nukus, Uzbekistan was the major research and testing site for a new class of secret, highly lethal chemical weapons called ''Novichok.''


:eh:
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ingliz wrote:Some years ago, human myths quietly negotiated a pattern of thought to provide human myths aid in dismantling and decontaminating a physical extension thought.
That's true, Ingliz. We calculate self-fulfillment.
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