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It's too late for France. Le Pen may be "sincere" in her condolence but Jean-Luc Mélenchon, who was kicked out by Jewish mourners, is just opportunist. He relies on Muslim voters which generates all of this hated.


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Mireille Knoll: Crowds jeer French far-right, far-left leaders after 'anti-Semitic' murder
National Front leader Marine Le Pen (centre) at a protest march in Paris, France. Photo: 28 March 2018EPA
Marine Le Pen (centre) said the protesters were heckling "the wrong enemy"
France's far-right and far-left leaders have been booed during a Paris rally after a Jewish woman was killed in what is being treated as anti-Semitic crime.

Marine Le Pen of the National Front (FN) and Jean-Luc Mélenchon of France Unbowed joined the silent march, defying wishes of Jewish groups.

The groups accuse the two parties of having anti-Semites in their ranks - a claim denied by both organisations.

Mireille Knoll, 85, was stabbed and then burnt in her Paris flat on Friday.

As a child in 1942, she evaded the notorious Vel d'Hiv round up of some 13,000 Jews in Paris, who were then deported to Nazi death camps.

Two men have been held and placed under formal investigation over her murder.

A police source told French media that one of those detained had previously been convicted of molesting a 12-year-old girl who had been staying at Mireille Knoll's flat.

She had also complained to police that a neighbour had threatened to set fire to her home, according to reports.

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On Wednesday, Ms Le Pen and Mr Mélenchon met a hostile reception from a number of protesters marching from Paris's Place de la Nation to Ms Knoll's apartment in the east of the French capital.

The two political leaders had to leave the rally as tensions threatened to boil over. Ms Le Pen later rejoined the protest, the AFP reports.

Ahead of the rally, Crif, an umbrella organisation of France's Jewish groups, asked the far-right and far-left politicians not to join the event.

"Anti-Semites are over-represented in the far-left and the far-right, making those parties ones that you don't want to be associated with," Crif director Francis Kalifat told RTL radio.

"Therefore they are not welcome," he added.

Ms Le Pen - whose father and predecessor as FN leader, Jean-Marie, is a convicted Holocaust denier - was quoted by the AFP as saying that Crif leaders "have got the wrong enemy".

"We've been fighting Islamist anti-Semitism for years," she added.

Several senior government members took part in the protest.

President Emmanuel Macron attended Ms Knoll's funeral earlier in the day.

People take part in a silent march in Paris, France. Photo: 28 March 2018AFP/Getty Images
People marched from Paris's Place de la Nation to Mireille Knoll's apartment in the east of Paris
People lay flowers in front of the apartment in Paris where Mireille Knoll lived. Photo: 28 March 2018AFP/Getty Images
People have been placing flowers in front of the apartment where Mireille Knoll lived
France's Jewish community has voiced increasing concern over a rise in violent anti-Semitic acts in the country.

Last month, a judge confirmed that the murder last year of Sarah Halimi, a 65-year-old Orthodox Jewish woman who was beaten and thrown out of her window, was driven by anti-Semitism.
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Europeans don't understand the historical meaning of "antisemitism". Antisemitism is in the core of European civilization. Almost all are tainted by it. But since the end of WW2, antisemitism is interpreted as something that connected to the "right" or the "far right", while those who demonize the Jewish state and ally themselves with Muslim racists is just cause.

Antisemitism since the late 60's (the growing of oil power and Palestine fetish) is connected to the left but the established narrative reluctant to accept it. After all the MSM (under EU directives) introduced it to wide audience. The murderer "with the migrant background" may heard all of his life that the Jews "have money" and he should kill her to found the money. It's popular trope among the left "anti capitalists" antisemites.

It's probably irreversible because today the whole of the indigenous population are on the recieving end of these new demographies.
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France created this situation by her own hand, daily MSM and state incitement against Jews and Israel radicalized the Muslim community, but the Jews will not be alone in the receiving end. Antisemitism, which France halped to unleash in the late 60's, will kill France as well.

Russian oultlet report



The ethnically cleansing of the French Jews.

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Anti-Semitism drove these Jews out of France

The City of Light is losing its Stars of David.

As a rash of anti-Semitic ­attacks, largely at the hands of Islamists and extremist political groups, has hit France, many Jews are fleeing.

“In the last couple of years, [there have] been hundreds [of French Jews] moving to New York City,” said Steve Eisenberg, co-founder of the Jewish International Connection of New York, a Manhattan group that helps international Jews acclimate to the city. “They’re here because they just can’t breathe as Jews in France. There’s no Jewish future there. You can’t walk in Paris wearing a yarmulke. You’re taking your life in your hands.”

In January, an 8-year-old outside his Jewish day school in Sarcelles was beaten to the ground, and a 15-year-old girl wearing a Jewish school uniform was slashed across the face by an unknown man.

On Jan. 9, fire roared through two kosher Paris markets, weeks after swastikas were painted on both stores. Although authorities suspect the fires were arson, the date is significant: It was the third anniversary of the ­Hyper Cacher supermarket massacre in Paris, in which gunman Amedy Coulibaly murdered four Jewish customers during a hostage situation. Before he was killed by police, Coulibaly demanded that Saïd and Chérif Kouachi — brothers who had committed a murderous assault on the offices of the Charlie Hebdo newspaper days earlier — not be harmed when found. (The same day, the siblings were killed during a police raid.)

Last year, two yarmulke-wearing Jewish brothers were attacked in a Paris suburb by thugs wielding a hacksaw, and 65-year-old Orthodox physician Sarah Halimi was found dead outside her apartment. Neighbors reported hearing the accused murderer, a Muslim from Mali, yell, “Allahu akbar,” before he allegedly pushed her out a window. After President Emmanuel Macron called for an investigation, the case was classified as an anti-Jewish hate crime.

Julia Buchwald, a Parisian émigré now living on the Upper East Side, has grandparents who survived the ­Holocaust by moving from Poland to France and hiding in the north. “They moved to France, not knowing what would happen in France,” she said. “[Now] it’s the same situation as my grandparents.”

During World War II, much of France’s Jewish contingent escaped the horrors of concentration camps — though about 72,500 perished.

Today the country has the third-largest Jewish population, after Israel and the US, with around 500,000 people. Many of them are the descendants of refugees displaced from North African nations such as Algeria and Morocco, who fled in the 1960s after those countries won independence from France and tensions heated.

For more, see the article....
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These French Muslims were born in France and they were radicalized by the French media. For about 50 years, there is daily propaganda against the Jews and Israel. It's inevitable. The odd result of EU policy is what we see today, when the Islamists are turning against the Jews and Europeans alike. No one forseen it.

France in the late 60's started to idolize the "Palestinians", believing it will help them to improve economical ties with the Arab League but more so as “exonerating projection”: an attempt to evade the criminality, and uniqueness, of the Holocaust by projecting its policies onto its former victims. France was a fascist country during the war (Vichy), and the Arab cause was important to them for psychological moral rehabilitation. You can say, France is victim of its own state antisemitism. They digged their own grave.
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noir wrote:France in the late 60's started to idolize the "Palestinians", believing it will help them to improve economical ties with the Arab League but more so as “exonerating projection”: an attempt to evade the criminality, and uniqueness, of the Holocaust by projecting its policies onto its former victims. France was a fascist country during the war (Vichy), and the Arab cause was important to them for psychological moral rehabilitation. You can say, France is victim of its own state antisemitism. They digged their own grave.


Now I can see a bigger picture when mentioned about the Palestinians.

The root is the different political interests in the Middle East, where the US supports Israel, and France supports Palestine.
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skytree wrote:Now I can see a bigger picture when mentioned about the Palestinians.

The root is the different political interests in the Middle East, where the US supports Israel, and France supports Palestine.


Ironically, after 9/11 the French were very please with themselves, they believed it can't happen to them because since 1967, the French switched their support to the Arabs. And then, out of nowhere, the Arabs and Muslims start to strike France like there was no "French solidarity with the Arab cause". It's the biggest irony of recent history. The French state media was the first to adopt obsessive Palestinian coverage, which later, under EU directives, adopted by other EU media, notably the BBC. Entire generations of Muslims living in the west were indoctrinated by daily dose of hatred, but it doesn't diminish their hatred to France.
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noir wrote:an attempt to evade the criminality, and uniqueness, of the Holocaust

There was nothing unique about the so called Jewish holocaust. Human beings have been butchering each other as long as there's been human beings. It wasn't a holocaust and the name was chosen to mock the German victims, people who suffered a real holocaust. For most of the Nazis twelve years in power the Jews were treated better in Germany than they were in Saudi Arabia. Yet Nazi Germany was faced with an international boycott from the start, while Saudi Arabia was feted by American business men and politicians even becoming a lend lease recipient.

Hitler did a complete out- face. Going from extreme Zionist to extreme anti Zionist after his meeting with the Mufti. In his early days in power Hitler ruthless suppressed the anti Zionist Association of German National Jews. The first nation that Hitler targeted for destruction was the Polish along with his friend at the time Joseph Stalin not the Jews. Stalin like Hitler supported Zionism, while attacking "rootless cosmopolitans".

We've had 3000 years of Jewish racism going back to the genocide of the Caananites, so spare us the Gentile guilt trip.
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@Rich Unique or not unique. European post war psychology to avoid the guilt against the European Jews (two third of them killed) was the main reason for the Palestine fetish. In the future, when historians will write the reason how France came to this situation, the episode in 1967 will be seen as the starting point. France state antisemitism brought the guillotine over their head. No one forseen it.
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The irony here is the French tried to destroy or demonize Israel and ended up threaten by their Muslim "allies". In the 30 years ahead, France might be an Islamic country.

How it was all started. History

French President Charles de Gaulle, disappointed by the loss of the French colonies in Africa and the Middle East as well as with France’s waning influence in the international arena, decided in the 1960’s to create a strategic alliance with the Arab and Muslim world to compete with the dominance of the United States and the Soviet Union.

During a November 27, 1967 press conference, Charles de Gaulle stated openly that French cooperation with the Arab world had become “the fundamental basis of our foreign policy.” Previously, France – as well as the rest of Western Europe – had been strongly pro-Israel, even going to war together with Israel as late as 1956 against Nasser’s Egypt. From 1967 on, however, France embarked on a decidedly pro-Arab course.


By January 1969, the Second International Conference in Support of the Arab Peoples, held in Cairo, in its resolution 15, decided “…to form special parliamentary groups, where they did not exist, and to use the parliamentary platform support of the Arab people and the Palestinian resistance.”


Five years later in Paris, July 1974, the Parliamentary Association for Euro-Arab Cooperation was created, under the Euro-Arab Dialogue rubric.

The Euro-Arab political agenda constructed a common foreign policy. France was the driving force in this unification, which had already been envisaged by General de Gaulle’s inner circle and Arab politicians.


It facilitated European ambitions to maintain important spheres of influence in the former European colonies, while opening huge markets for European products in the Arab world, especially in oil-producing countries, in order to secure supplies of petroleum and natural gas to Europe. In addition, it would make the Mediterranean a Euro-Arab inland sea by favoring Muslim immigration and promoting Multiculturalism with a strong Islamic presence in Europe.

The Arab states demanded from Europe access to Western science and technology, European political independence from the United States, European pressure on the United States to align with their Arab policy and demonization of Israel as a threat to world peace, as well as measures favorable to Arab immigration and dissemination of Islamic culture in Europe. This cooperation would also included recognition of the Palestinians as a distinct people and the PLO and its leader Arafat as their representative. Up to 1973 they had been known only as Arab refugees, even by other Arabs. The concept of a Palestinian “nation” simply did not exist.

In December 1969, France sold 110 Mirage jets to Libya's new dictator, Muammer al-Qaddafi. Beginning in the early 1970s, it became a major supplier of arms to many Arab states, while maintaining the strict boycott of Israel imposed soon after the Six-Day War. Against this backdrop, France—having developed a network of friendly relations throughout the Arab world—began to explore with Libya the concept of a Euro-Arab Dialogue (EAD).19 Paris became the advocate of the Arab cause in the European Economic Community (EEC) and set out to build a unified European position against Israel. On an official visit to Lebanon in July 1971, Jean de Lipkowski, the French secretary of state for foreign affairs, told a press conference that there was no way that the Israeli policy of a separate, partial settlement could be negotiated in the Middle East, hence endorsing the Arab position. He pointed out that the six EEC countries had unified their views regarding the Middle East conflict, while, in the previous year, France had been isolated at the EEC in its anti-Israel stance. Previously, European Community critics accused the French of bias toward the Arab world, he commented, but that had now changed, and there was a real possibility of a common European policy on this highly important matter.20

Beginning in 1974, radio, television, the press and UN educational publications (including those of UNESCO) spread anti-Zionist dogma worldwide. They particularly stressed the equation of Zionism with racism, based on the 1975 UN General Assembly Resolution 3379. Along the lines of Chedli Klibi's program detailed above and the Islamic and Arab Summits, France became the engine of Arab League strategy. Historian Robert Wistrich describes the next development:


Above all, the French televisual media created a climate of disinformation and unprecedented hostility towards Israel with its ceaseless use of emotionally charged Holocaustal [sic] terminology, which undoubtedly intensified latent antisemitic sentiment that had never altogether disappeared in France. The French Communist Party, through its manifold channels of influence, added its own Soviet-inspired legends of fascism and Zionism as inseparable "Siamese twins"; to this motley chorus one would have to add the left-wing Catholics of Témoignage Chrétien, a section of the French Socialist Party, the various Franco-Arab and Franco-Palestinian associations and the myriad promoters of anti-American Third World ideologies in France.19


The delegitimization of Israel was gradually integrated into Europe's strategic and economic interests. It became a central element of the policy of the French socialist-communist coalition governments actively involved in creating a Euro-Arab bloc hostile to the United States and Israel. This fundamental reason explains European opposition, particularly in France, to the Gulf war of 1990-91.

The irony is that France is now held hostage by the very forces she herself set in motion. The Jihad riots by Muslim immigrants in France in 2005 demonstrated that Eurabia is no longer a matter of French foreign policy, it is now French domestic policy. France will burn unless she continues to appease Arabs and agree to their agenda.



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