- 13 May 2018 04:24
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No, I never claimed that her fear is based on this.
I am educating you about the history that Mohawks have with North American governments. In the comtext of a white European, the police are not people who are literally trying to take your land, children, and livelihood away. For Mohawks, there is a different context.
But your ad hominems directed at the mother are noted. And even if she is as neurotic as you claim, she was still right about cops harassing her kids because they are visibly non-white.
No. If you know cops shoot people every day, and get away with it every day, and they target young men of colour disproportionately, then it is a rational fear.
When I see police on the streets, it always crosses my mind that they are, for all practical purposes, armed men walking around with almost no oversight.
You are far more likely to be shot by police than be a victim of a terrorist attack, so if you think this is an irrational fear because of its lack of frequency, then you are also saying that the fight against terrorism is based on an irrational fear.
Someone else brought up the worries about school shootings. You are also more likely to be shot by police than in a school shooting. By calling the cops to a school, you are effectively increasing the chances of a shooting in the school.
Yes, she really had no reason to call the police.
So there must have been some other motive instead of rational suspicion.
There is a crack in everything,
That's how the light gets in...
Kaiserschmarrn wrote:OK, you moved the goalposts again. Now you are claiming her fear is based on a past event that is completely unrelated to this incident. She is apparently incapable of distinguishing between what appears to have been a military operation a long time ago and two police officers responding to a call. If this is the case, it sounds more like paranoia or some PTSD type issue than a reasonable fear.
No, I never claimed that her fear is based on this.
I am educating you about the history that Mohawks have with North American governments. In the comtext of a white European, the police are not people who are literally trying to take your land, children, and livelihood away. For Mohawks, there is a different context.
But your ad hominems directed at the mother are noted. And even if she is as neurotic as you claim, she was still right about cops harassing her kids because they are visibly non-white.
No, that wasn't my question. We've already established that the chances of being shot by a police officer are minuscule, regardless of ethnic background. Taking the higher number of 24 in 2016 in Sivad's post, the chance is 5 per million for Native Americans. I think any reasonable person would have to admit that this is not sufficient grounds for being fearful of contact with police officers. Do you agree?
No. If you know cops shoot people every day, and get away with it every day, and they target young men of colour disproportionately, then it is a rational fear.
When I see police on the streets, it always crosses my mind that they are, for all practical purposes, armed men walking around with almost no oversight.
You are far more likely to be shot by police than be a victim of a terrorist attack, so if you think this is an irrational fear because of its lack of frequency, then you are also saying that the fight against terrorism is based on an irrational fear.
Someone else brought up the worries about school shootings. You are also more likely to be shot by police than in a school shooting. By calling the cops to a school, you are effectively increasing the chances of a shooting in the school.
Well, yes, she misjudged the situation. It happens, especially if people are encouraged to call the police even if in doubt.
Yes, she really had no reason to call the police.
So there must have been some other motive instead of rational suspicion.
There is a crack in everything,
That's how the light gets in...