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Skinster-

You appear to be on 'something' as knowing that the Arabs were against 181 for the reason mentioned above would reveal just how hypocritical they are, because 'self determination' is not something they feel that the Jewish people are entitled to in their own land.

It seems like you are in a degree of denial, or are you like the Arabs back in 1948 until now, simply against the Israeli people having their own state?

They are welcome to their 'self determination', but it will never succeed against Israel.

They harbour terrorist within Gaza, as such they will never have a state or security & Israel will always react to terrorist violence by giving as good as it gets with 'interest' as a deterrent.

The U.N has no credibility, it's liberal left-wing political ideologues will gain nothing at Israel's expense for the Arabs
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Nonsense wrote:You appear to be on 'something' as knowing that the Arabs were against 181 for the reason mentioned above would reveal just how hypocritical they are, because 'self determination' is not something they feel that the Jewish people are entitled to in their own land.


It wasn't their land. They invaded and colonized using much terrorism. But it wasn't "Jews", it was Zionists. A lot of Jews opposed the invasion and colonization of Palestine at the time and even more oppose it and the ideology it's founded on (Zionism) today because as is repeated over and over again, not all Jews are Zionists - that's antisemitic! - and not all Zionists are Jews (we have a bunch of those on this board). Israel is a settler-colonial project.

It seems like you are in a degree of denial, or are you like the Arabs back in 1948 until now, simply against the Israeli people having their own state?


Israel has no right to exist on another people and anyone - you included - would resist such if it was imposed on you, your loved ones and your land.

They harbour terrorist within Gaza, as such they will never have a state or security & Israel will always react to terrorist violence by giving as good as it gets with 'interest' as a deterrent.


The terrorists are the ones you're shilling for and the ones shooting down the prisoners it holds within a concentration camp every Friday (what this thread is about).

The U.N has no credibility, it's liberal left-wing political ideologues will gain nothing at Israel's expense for the Arabs


Your lack of consistency is showing again; you think resolution for partitioning Palestine (181) is a legitimate thing - the first thing I'm responding to above - but also the "U.N. has no credibility". :lol:
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skinster wrote:https://twitter.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1132226439003168768



It wasn't their land. They invaded and colonized using much terrorism. But it wasn't "Jews", it was Zionists. A lot of Jews opposed the invasion and colonization of Palestine at the time and even more oppose it and the ideology it's founded on (Zionism) today because as is repeated over and over again, not all Jews are Zionists - that's antisemitic! - and not all Zionists are Jews (we have a bunch of those on this board). Israel is a settler-colonial project.[/b]


Nonsense-

They never invaded & colonised Palestine at all.

That land never had national geographic lines, it was always, as most of the far east or elsewhere was, land where the people's occupying them, were nomadic in nature, that was how it was.
It wasn't until the League of Nations(the forerunner of the U.N) issued Britain with a Mandate in 1921, effective from 1923, to [b]'establish a national home for the Jewish people'
So, the land that is now called ISRAEL, was established under [b]International Law
in 1923, yet people like you would say that Israel has no right to exist there.
What actually went wrong(as usual)was the British screwed things up by it's borders that it created, which allowed the immediate conflict to begin in 1948.

One only has to look at those borders around Gaza to see that conflict would arise, Israel should have had all of Gaza including the whole of Jerusalem included within it's borders.
However, we are where we are & Israel will never give an inch of it's territory away.

Gaza was lost to the Palestinians by way of war, when Egypt, backed by Jordan, attacked Israel, whom defeated their enemies, causing the Palestinians to flee from area's of what is now Israel.

Land never moves, only people with their governing bodies move, what you call 'Palestine' was 'Phillistine' territory, a relatively hard-nosed militarily -minded group.
There never was(before 1948)a settled people of that land from the West Bank of Jordan to Gaza, Israel gained control of it when it defeated Egypt & Jordan.

Were Israel so minded, it could eject all of the palestinians, redraw it's boundaries & absolutely challenge the world to do something about it.

Of course, nothing would be done about it & the stupid Palestinians are too tribal to understand the benefits of peaceful co-existance with Israel.


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#15009766
Israel's problem is that its far too soft. South Lebanon needs to be permanently occupied. Hezbollah needs to properly punished for their aggressions. Same goes for Gaza. Muslims don't value human life not even Muslim life. Killing Muslims isn't an effective punishment. Every-time the Muslims attack from Gaza, the North Eastern border should be pushed back a few yards. The confiscated land must be promptly occupied.
#15009773
In this video, you're watching Israeli forces arresting and beating a Palestinian man for no reason


He was trying to incite the people and when they took him away, he resisted.
They were not even beating him up, they were just immobilising him.
You anti Zionists are such drama queens !

And what, may I ask, will your re-posting of Arab propaganda change ?
Nothing.

I do realise why you guys have become so hysterical lately : more than seventy years have passed since the birth of the Jewish State and soon there will be nobody left who was born there before Israel's independence. And several generations of Israelis know no other place to call home.
#15009786
Israel essentially has 2 problems. The Sunni Muslims and the Shia (Twelver) Muslims. The meta problem is that Israel has tried to deal with the latter problem by allying with the most corrupt, degenerate Sunni Muslims on the planet. In doing so they have attempted to drag us (the rest of the West) into continuing and even deepening our alliance with these wicked degenerates. An alliance that no longer has any benefit for us, but massive down sides. The Cold War is over.

The Twelvers are an insecure minority constantly seeking approval from the Sunni Muslim majority. The constant anti Western and Israel posturing of Iran and Hezbollah is largely part of this. As the western feminist leftie constantly searches for approval from murderous Muslim mysognystic terrorists, so the Shia Twelvers constantly search for approval from genocidal Sunni Muslim sectarians. The deadly threat of Iran to Israel, is that seeks to combine a powerful military, a nuclear capability and its alliance with Assad with the power of its Hezbollah proxy on Israel's northern border. Iran on its own is not a credible threat. Iran is not going to launch an invasion of Israel from Iran, and a nuclear capability would be far more of a threat to its Sunni, secular Muslim neighbours and to Russia than to Israel. Assad has no real interest in invading Israel. his got far too much on his plate just recapturing Idlib and holding the territory he already occupies.

The key then is to remove the Twelver (Shia) threat from Israel's Northern border. Israel needs to look to forging a set of Christian /Druze / Alawite / Kurdish buffer states on its northern border. With the northern border secure Israel can then turn to focus on the much more intractable Sunni Muslim problem on its East, South and Western borders.
#15009845
The fishing restrictions are directly linked to the launching of incendiary balloons from Gaza into Israel.
Every time they launch terrorist balloons, their fishing radius becomes smaller.

Arab "Children" should not approach the border and certainly not throw stones or molotov cocktails towards the valiant IDF soldiers. If they do and they get hurt they have only themselves to blame (and their parents who instilled them with hate towards Israel)

Just saying, bringing context to the posted propaganda.
#15009848
"Palestinians" are the number one exporters of terrorist methods
in recent years they have exported stabbing,car attacks now incendiary balloons and kites (which are also started being used in Syria now BTW :lol: )

they export terrorism and Israel is exporting technologies to help humanity this is the difference between Israel and the savages around it
#15009862
Terror "kites" thing again :D

Do you even read yourselves and not laugh at your own absurdity? Only Zionists can makes kites and balloons a thing of terror. But I suppose they kill children on a weekly basis so I guess they have to literally make their fears up, to justify this ongoing enslavement, murder and genocide.

Ter wrote:The fishing restrictions are directly linked to the launching of incendiary balloons from Gaza into Israel.


The restrictions on Palestinian prisoners fishing are applied arbitrarily and have been a thing since before the "incendiary balloons" (lol) were a thing.

Every time they launch terrorist balloons, their fishing radius becomes smaller.


The terror balloons meme is months old. Is that all you have to go to justify this aspect of Israeli oppression in Gaza?

Arab "Children" should not approach the border and certainly not throw stones or molotov cocktails towards the valiant IDF soldiers.


It's not a border, it's a prison wall. You're confusing Palestinian children stone-throwing at the occupied terrorist forces in the West Bank which terrorise Palestinian children living in their own territory. "valiant IDF soldiers" shooting children, women, disabled people, medics and journalists. The Nazis would be proud. Neonazis are proud, as you can see with how they align with Israel these days. Nice crew you have there...

If they do and they get hurt they have only themselves to blame (and their parents who instilled them with hate towards Israel)


Anyone who experienced what Israel did to their homes and land and continue to do to their daily lives - make them unlivable - would respond how Palestinians respond. Early Zionists recognized it, even some Israeli lawmakers accept this, but people like you still hasbara away the lies that are the propaganda that will never polish the apartheid turd that is Israel.

Just saying, bringing context to the posted propaganda.


Actually, I think I just did that with your post.
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skinster wrote:Terror "kites" thing again :D

Oh yes, definitely.
I have not understood why the IDF never shot those balloon-launching terrorists.
I admit it is a creative form of terrorism, but burning down crops and lands should not remain unpunished.
So now they connected it to the fishing restrictions. Well so be it, I am not in charge over there.

skinster wrote:It's not a border, it's a prison wall.

That is just you spouting garbage propaganda.
It is the border between the Jewish State and Gaza.

Gaza needs to be blockaded because the Arabs there have chosen to be ruled over by terrorists who would like to import weapons and other naughty stuff.

How is that March of the Great Return working out for them ?
#15009879
Zionist Nationalist wrote:Because Netanyahu is a fucking coward we need a new PM that have balls to order shoot to kill for every little shit they do Israel need to stop playing with them with soft gloves


This guy is probably the one who disappointed you least, are you being serious?
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