Zionist Nationalist wrote:Who is a "Palestinian"?
and did anyone was called "Palestinian" 150-200 years ago? (the short answer is no)
Palestine is just a name of the region and the Palestinian identity is a response to Zionism its a new identity just like the Israeli one it did not exist before the mid 20th century
and its only being used as a tool against Israel their goal is to get rid of non Muslim and Non Arab influence in the middle east
even Hamas new leader admitted it recently
A video that was leaked shows Hamas' senior Hamas figure Mahmoud al-Zahar telling the truth about "Palestine" (in the video): "Is a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders a strategic principle?" When I hear these words, I feel sick because there is no such project ) Palestine for us is like a toothpick, because our (Islamic) project is bigger than Palestine. " He turns to the globe, and mocks: "Palestine does not appear on the map"
Who is a Palestinian? The people living within the Mandate for Palestine in 1947 who self identifies as Palestinian be they Jew,Christian or Muslim and the descendants of those people driven off their land by Zionists in 47/48 and the years following.
and did anyone was called "Palestinian" 150-200 years ago? (the short answer is no)The short answer is no, correct, just as there was no such thing as a German or Italian in the 19th century, so are you going to deny them their right to self identification as well?
There was no one called an Israeli 150-200 years ago, are you going to deny the state of Israel. By the way there is still no such thing as an Israeli national.
Hamas was helped in its creation by Israel,
It also obscures Hamas's curious history. To a certain degree, the Islamist organization whose militant wing has rained rockets on Israel the past few weeks has the Jewish state to thank for its existence. Hamas launched in 1988 in Gaza at the time of the first intifada, or uprising, with a charter now infamous for its anti-Semitism and its refusal to accept the existence of the Israeli state. But for more than a decade prior, Israeli authorities actively enabled its rise.
At the time, Israel's main enemy was the late Yasser Arafat's Fatah party, which formed the heart of the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO). Fatah was secular and cast in the mold of other revolutionary, leftist guerrilla movements waging insurgencies elsewhere in the world during the Cold War. The PLO carried out assassinations and kidnappings and, although recognized by neighboring Arab states, was considered a terrorist organization by Israel; PLO operatives in the occupied territories faced brutal repression at the hands of the Israeli security state.
Meanwhile, the activities of Islamists affiliated with Egypt's banned Muslim Brotherhood were allowed in the open in Gaza — a radical departure from when the Strip was administered by the secular-nationalist Egyptian government of Gamal Abdel Nasser.
It also obscures Hamas's curious history. To a certain degree, the Islamist organization whose militant wing has rained rockets on Israel the past few weeks has the Jewish state to thank for its existence. Hamas launched in 1988 in Gaza at the time of the first intifada, or uprising, with a charter now infamous for its anti-Semitism and its refusal to accept the existence of the Israeli state. But for more than a decade prior, Israeli authorities actively enabled its rise.
posting.php?mode=quote&f=42&p=15013365Reap what you sow. Israel never wanted peace particularly after 1967 always it has been about the creation of a Greater Israel, "from the Jordan to the Sea". Israel was created by terrorists that Israelis now bleat about what they created is a great irony.
I do not condone the terrorism of Hamas but Gurion understood perfectly what to expect.
Everybody sees a difficulty in the question of relations between Arabs and Jews. But not everybody sees that there is no solution to this question. No solution! There is a gulf, and nothing can bridge it… We, as a nation, want this country to be ours; the Arabs, as a nation, want this country to be theirs.
Written statement (June 1919), as quoted in Time magazine (24 July 2006)
And at least he did not deny the true intentions of Zionism,
The acceptance of partition does not commit us to renounce Transjordan: one does not demand from anybody to give up his vision. We shall accept a state in the boundaries fixed today, but the boundaries of Zionist aspirations are the concern of the Jewish people and no external factor will be able to limit them.
Speech in 1937, accepting a British proposal for partition of Palestine which created a potential Jewish majority state, as quoted in New Outlook (April 1977)
And what about Likud,
The 'Peace & Security' chapter of the 1999 Likud Party platform rejects a Palestinian state.
"The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river. The Palestinians can run their lives freely in the framework of self-rule, but not as an independent and sovereign state. Thus, for example, in matters of foreign affairs, security, immigration, and ecology, their activity shall be limited in accordance with imperatives of Israel's existence, security and national needs."
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/David_Ben-Gurionhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LikudChristian Nationalism is Un-American.
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