skinster wrote: There is no such place called Judea and Samaria, that is the name fanatical zionists call the West Bank, which is internationally recognized as Palestinian territory, despite Palestinians being forced to live under a brutal military regime, amongst 600,000 violent Israeli settlers.
I used to call it the West Bank, but since the Arabs refused to recognise Israel as a Jewish State and keep on insisting on a 100% right of return, with their millions of offspring, I have adopted the name Judea and Samaria.
skinster wrote:The wall was built to steal more Palestinian land and to imprison people or prevent freedom of movement.
The wall was built to prevent suicide bombers and other terrorists from entering pre-1967 Israel. An it was and is very effective, it broke the back of the second intifada.
I agree that the exact location of the wall in some places does not follow the lines of pre-1967 Israel but the courts should decide that or it could be altered as a result of negotiations.
skinster wrote:I have no idea what world you live in, but it's one that's batshit insane, aka not grounded in any reality.
It is you who are blinded by your fanatiscism. There are plenty of pictures and videos where rioting Arabs can be seen eye to eye with the IDF protectors of the border. If there were a big wall there, it would not be possible. Also, the Israeli snipers were lying behind a earthen wall, they were not operating from watch towers in wall. Nice try though.
skinster wrote:I know where the desperation is, zionists still trying to sell a shit story. You can't sell live genocide as much as you will continue to try.
genocide ? You really should look up the definition of words before you use them erroneously. The Israelis are not desperate, the Arabs are. Israelis lead almost 100% normal lives.
And then there is this :
Israel TV: Confident Hamas planned victory rallies for its leaders inside Israel
Hadashot news claims Gaza protesters given specific instructions by terror group, urged to bring 'knife or handgun' to rallies; IDF commanders recount violence hitherto unseen
Ismail Haniyeh, the Head of Hamas, gestures to demonstrators at a a protest camp during clashes with Israeli forces along the border with the Gaza Strip east of Gaza City on May 18, 2018
Though it has sought to portray weeks of violent demonstrations along the Gaza Strip’s border with Israel as popular protests, Hamas was heavily involved in planning the clashes and provided instructions to participants on desired behavior, Hadashot TV news reported Friday.
The terror group disseminated detailed directives on social media ahead of Monday’s violent clashes at the border, the report said. These directives went so far as to inform protesters in which Israeli community each terrorist leader would be speaking after the protests had achieved their stated goal of breaching the border.
“Ismail Haniyeh will speak in Nahal Oz, Khalil al-Hayya in Kfar Aza and (Palestinian Islamic Jihad leader) Nafed Azzam in Be’eri,” Hadashot quoted the instructions as saying. “After the victory speeches, celebrations will begin throughout Palestine.”
Protesters were told that tractors would seek to bring down the fence, and were urged to arm themselves with “a knife or a handgun” for use after the border was breached, the report said. “Seek to drive (Israeli) snipers from their positions,” the instructions added.
The directives were reportedly accompanied by detailed maps, and included the Israeli communities to which Palestinians were encouraged to rush.
Colonel Kobi Heller, the commander of the IDF’s Southern (Gaza) Brigade, said the report corresponded to the military’s information.
“In the end all the people who come up to the fence definitely do it under Hamas’s direction,” he said. He added that Hamas leadership was absent during Monday’s violence. “They didn’t come to the fence on Monday. They were afraid.”
Heller said “You had thousands of riled up protesters. Someone riled them up. Someone got them to get up as one and charge at the soldiers along the fence.
“By the way,” he said, “if they hadn’t charged like that, our soldiers wouldn’t have done anything.”
Since March 30, tens of thousands of Palestinians have taken part in weekly “March of Return” protests, which Israel says are orchestrated by the Hamas terror group and used as cover for attempted terror attacks and breaches of the border fence.
The violent demonstrations were meant to end on May 15, but Hamas leaders have said they want them to continue.
The deaths of 62 Palestinians during Monday’s violent protests were met with international outrage and calls for an independent investigation of events. Hamas has subsequently admitted that 50 of the dead were members of the terror group. Three others were Islamic Jihad members.
Lt. Cl. Akhsan Daksa, commander of the IDF’s 7th Armored Brigade, told Hadashot snipers were not given carte blanche to fire as they chose. “Not at all,” he said. “There is a very clear method of authorization.”
Daksa called the Palestinian protests on Monday “A violent affair such as I’ve not encountered.”
He added: “I fought in the Second Lebanon War, in Operation Protective Edge (the 2014 war in Gaza). There was violence here like in a battlefield.”
Daksa, who speaks Arabic, said he communicated with some of the protesters over the fence, sometimes “from five meters away.” They told him “We’re on our way to Nahal Oz, to the other communities. Today’s prayers will be held there.”
He said he told demonstrators to head back from the fence. “This won’t help, this isn’t the way,” he recounted telling them.
However, he said, when protesters arrived in droves at the fence and hurled grenades or bombs “there’s no other measure that can work” besides sniper fire. “At that point, there is no other measure.”
Heller added, “If we hadn’t been (guarding) the fence this week, ensuring that Hamas, Islamic Jihad and others met a brick wall of combat soldiers when they came to the fence, this mob would have infiltrated communities.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-tv ... de-israel/