[Finfinder]

I think amend the constitution is not a problem but change mentality and the base of the US economy it's a challenge. The image of the fat dad with his guns beside his bed; distrust and property make the " America First. " .

It's a big problem because most people are against it. The Democrats are too chicken to run on it because they will get creamed at the voter booth. That's why they want to back door it by chipping away at constitutional rights through weak legislation.

[anarchist23]

This has just been released, it is self explanatory.

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Confessed Florida school shooter Nikolas Cruz said in cell phone video recorded before the Feb. 14 massacre that “I’m going to be the next school shooter of 2018,” according to footage released by prosecutors on Wednesday.

Prosecutors released three cell phone videos in response to public records requests filed by media organizations, including NBC News. They show Cruz, 19, talking about his plans to carry out the attack. He is accused of opening fire at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, killing 17 people.

Police have said Cruz confessed to the shooting. His attorneys have said that he is willing to plead guilty in exchange for a life sentence instead of facing the possibility of the death penalty. Prosecutors have said they will seek the death penalty in the case.

In the videos, Cruz says he plans to shoot people with an AR-15 rifle, says the location would be the high school and that he planned to kill at least 20 people. He says that people would see him on the news.

Fred Guttenberg, whose 14-year-old daughter, Jaime, was killed in the school shooting, told the Miami Herald that he was concerned that media attention about the videos would inspire other shootings. He said he has no intention of watching the videos.

"I don’t want other kids to see what he said and think they'll do it better," Guttenberg told the Miami Herald Wednesday. "What he did has resulted in him being in jail where he will rot and die."

Guttenberg made similar comments on Twitter. Student Cameron Kasky said on the social media platform after the videos were released that "School shooters can NOT be treated like celebrities. I don’t want to hear their names or see their faces. Nobody does."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pa ... an-n878746

[Suntzu]

Overwhelmingly untypical of motor vehicle fatalities.

As this is untypical of firearms fatalities!

[QatzelOk]

Godstud is correct about car deaths being totally acceptable because oops.

Even if everyone in America is killed in a car collision, this is normal and healthy because oops.

After killing someone with a machine, it's important to say "oops" and not "Allah Akbar."

I'm not sure if school shootings are more oops ("I'm a loser and a confused teen) or Allah Akbar (ideological hatred for middle class suburbia).

[Besoeker]

As this is untypical of firearms fatalities!

Perhaps you should the relative numbers of intentional killings with the number of units in the hands of the public.
But you won't.

[Godstud]

Perhaps you should the relative numbers of intentional killings with the number of units in the hands of the public.
But you won't.

Cars are not at all analogous to guns. It's the typical dodge and diversion from gun control that all the right wingers are using these days. Divert to something completely unrelated, and already under controls. It's a dishonest and intellectually vacant argument.

[Suntzu]

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[Besoeker]

Cars are not at all analogous to guns. It's the typical dodge and diversion from gun control that all the right wingers are using these days. Divert to something completely unrelated, and already under controls. It's a dishonest and intellectually vacant argument.

No argument with that.

[Suntzu]

With around 50,000,000 students in U.S. public school around 16 a year are killed in school shootings . . . not a big problem, especially not one to justify altering a way of life that is the envy of the world.

[Besoeker]

With around 50,000,000 students in U.S. public school around 16 a year are killed in school shootings . . . not a big problem, especially not one to justify altering a way of life that is the envy of the world.

How many deliberately murdered in school by cars? How many??? Give actual numbers.
And your sources.

[Godstud]

With around 50,000,000 students in U.S. public school around 16 a year are killed in school shootings . . . not a big problem, especially not one to justify altering a way of life that is the envy of the world.

Canada, by comparison has had 8 people killed in school shootings in the last 20 years( less than 1 ever second year). Stop pretending that the USA is something special. It's simply absurd and foolish.

USA has has 320 people die in school shootings, to Canada's 8, in just the last 20 years. No problem, right, Americans?

[Suntzu]

Canada, by comparison has had 8 people killed in school shootings in the last 20 years( less than 1 ever second year). Stop pretending that the USA is something special. It's simply absurd and foolish.

USA has has 320 people die in school shootings, to Canada's 8, in just the last 20 years. No problem, right, Americans?

And during that same period of time in the U.S. around 15,000 drowned in swimming pool and 10,000 died falling off ladders. The sky is falling!

[Besoeker]

Canada, by comparison has had 8 people killed in school shootings in the last 20 years( less than 1 ever second year). Stop pretending that the USA is something special. It's simply absurd and foolish.

USA has has 320 people die in school shootings, to Canada's 8, in just the last 20 years. No problem, right, Americans?

And compared to zero in the same period in UK. And 40 times fewer gun fatalities. The facts are plain to see.

[Suntzu]

And compared to zero in the same period in UK. And 40 times fewer gun fatalities. The facts are plain to see.

Yeah, they just use knives to murder, much different!

[Godstud]

If this thread was about anything but intentional American school shootings, you'd have an argument @Suntzu. As it is, you're simply trolling and being purposefully dishonest.

@Besoeker don't engage him further, unless he gets back on topic.