[Godstud]

@Pants-of-dog

[Verv]

Ok, let's accept Verv's ridiculous premise that antifa is regularly portrayed in a positive light by the media. Maybe violent rightwing groups would receive more favorable coverage if they weren't violent?

Just a thought. But "not being violent" might be an issue since violence seems inherent to the ideology. Maybe it's fascistic beliefs regarding racial and ethnic purity that are the problem, and not their coverage? How does one paint a smiley face on repeated, regular, acts of mass violence?

Oh dear, of course we would never want there to be the normalization of violence. I'd also never want to live in a world that demonized POCs or attempted to exclude them entirely from our nation. That would be nuts.

I think you do not understand the positions you are attacking, or that you perhaps have us confused with somebody else.

I think many of us here on the right are most similar to something like the Alt Lite, but there are are also some here who are further to the right and more like the Alt Right and even maybe they are very close to National Socialist. But that is not me.

I am just a nationalist guy with a lot of centrist views about the economy, a strong commitment to civil liberties, and a strong belief in traditional Western culture, and I happen to think a lot like Pants of Dog & Skinster when it comes to power dynamics.

That is to say, I do believe that there are nefarious forces at work promoting globalism and zionism. I just disagree about what the solution is and do not have a similar economic vision.

We're very similar -- I am just a centrist.

[Hindsite]

So, Cuomo explicitly says that he does not espouse antifa, and he says that he knows that people will accuse him of it so he does make it explicit.

And he gets accused of it anyway.

That is because he is trying to backtrack and clean up his statement about Antifa having a good cause.

Obviously, the person who wrote that misleading editorial about how the media loves antifa either did not listen to the whole show or read the entire transcript, or deliberately ignored it.

Now you are making misleading statements. It is not about anyone loving Antifa; it is about the left-wing media not strongly condemning Antifa for the violent tactics, like FOX News does, for example. When have you seen the left-wing media like CNN or MSNBC have Andy NGO on to explain his side of what happened? Never.

Shall me move on to the next supposed quote in the misleading editorial?

If that is what you want. Have at it.

[Pants-of-dog]

Now that we are clear that the transcript directly contradicts the claim for the first quote, please provide the context for the second quote.

[Hindsite]

Now that we are clear that the transcript directly contradicts the claim for the first quote, please provide the context for the second quote.

The transcript certainly does not contradict the claim that Cuomo referred to Antifa as having a good cause. The point you keep missing is that the left-wing media does not strongly condemn Antifa for the violent tactics, like FOX News does, for example. And as I added to my previous respone, when have you seen the left-wing media like CNN or MSNBC have Andy NGO on to explain his side of what happened? Never. They don't seem to care that he got bashed in the head by Antifa. He is just a journalist trying to get a story. He certainly is not a Nazi scum and neither were those two old people that they were blocking and harassing by shouting "Nazi scum get off our street."

[Pants-of-dog]

So your argument is that you think all news sources should cover antifa in the way that your favourite biased news sites do?

[Hindsite]

So your argument is that you think all news sources should cover antifa in the way that your favourite biased news sites do?

In a way that is true. They should at least be fair and balanced like FOX News. But my argument is the same as the original article I posted before you started with your nonsense.

[Pants-of-dog]

The misleading editorial that incorrectly claimed that Cuomo supported antifa and gave them a good portrayal?

If so, please provide the context for the second quote.

[SpecialOlympian]

Oh dear, of course we would never want there to be the normalization of violence. I'd also never want to live in a world that demonized POCs or attempted to exclude them entirely from our nation. That would be nuts.

I think you do not understand the positions you are attacking, or that you perhaps have us confused with somebody else.

I think many of us here on the right are most similar to something like the Alt Lite, but there are are also some here who are further to the right and more like the Alt Right and even maybe they are very close to National Socialist. But that is not me.

I am just a nationalist guy with a lot of centrist views about the economy, a strong commitment to civil liberties, and a strong belief in traditional Western culture, and I happen to think a lot like Pants of Dog & Skinster when it comes to power dynamics.

That is to say, I do believe that there are nefarious forces at work promoting globalism and zionism. I just disagree about what the solution is and do not have a similar economic vision.

We're very similar -- I am just a centrist.

What is this boring bullshit? I asked you a question.

[maz]

I have been trying to explain for years now that these insane people consider all white people to be nazis. They had to go out of their way to create a fake nazi panic with Richard Spencer and Charlottesville to get this moral panic started.

Well that is true because they have called blacks the n-word and attacked an homosexual Asian man.

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They should at least be fair and balanced like FOX News.

We do have these things known as facts, y'know.

Most of the time Fox is neither, it's a propaganda machine for the Republicans party.

[Presvias]

What is this boring bullshit? I asked you a question.

He genuinely worships Otto Von Bismarck. Lol..

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Hello,

I live in Korea and I work as a translator. I am not a Korean, but an American who lives here and really takes in the culture of the place (I have invested almost three years here, and won't be leaving soon).

I am a staunch conservative, and I am not afraid to defend men like former ROK President Park Chung-hee who was oustanding in controversial conservatism, and I admire President Bush (but wish he was more right wing, haha).. I like the Grand Old Party -- in fact, the Korean conservative party the Grand National Party is named after them (and even like the Republicans, they go by a different name than GOP most of the time [Han-Nara Dang, One-Nation Party]). It is the party of Park Chung-hee and anti-communism and pro-traditionalism.

I am very opposed to Communism and I think that Communism is a continuous threat and exists in our societies, still, even though the USSR is gone. I like to follow mostly international politics, because I feel that what happens globally is infinitely more important than a local trend.

I think there needs to be a new conservatism because of the cultural rift that happened in 1960s America & Europe, and like what is happening all over Asia today, where a youth, in an effort to understand itself in the context of a modern society, abandons too much tradition.

And so I believe in German concept of Kulturkampf that Bismarck did, to have a cultural struggle for a new cultural identity that reconciles modernity with tradition, and the needs of a strong national identity. So I call my blog Der Kulturkampf in honor of the fight.

I try to look at some of the mere universal truths that I can understand, and apply it to politics.

And... I am an old school punk rocker. When it isn't the weekday I am vomitting up the remnants of live octopus & cheap liquor in the back of subway cars and dreading a fast-approaching monday morning.

SPQR.

"The great questions of the day will not be settled by means of speeches and majority decisions but by iron and blood." - Bismarck

That did not work out so well, or rather it led to worse things..

[Hindsite]

We do have these things known as facts, y'know.

Most of the time Fox is neither, it's a propaganda machine for the Republicans party.

Most of the time CNN and MSNBC are propaganda machines for the Democrat party.
Here is something from the non-partisan Radio Free Europe featuring Antifa:

Inauguration Protest In Washington Turns Violent
Radio Free Europe Jan 20, 2017

Now from the bias FOX News:

Liberals think Antifa threat not real
FOX News Sep 18, 2017

CNN's Don Lemon thinks Pres. Trump has an unhealthy obsession with Antifa because he watches too much Fox News. Whoopi Goldberg thinks the Right created an Antifa 'boogeyman' for conservatives to hate.

Court orders Antifa activist to pay student $11K in damages
FOX News Jan 9, 2018

[late]

What I like best about MSNBC is the constant use of relevant experts. Former Watergate prosecutors, retired intel experts, retired counterintel experts, prof of constitutional law, and so on.

Fox is a joke in poor taste.

[BigSteve]

What I like best about MSNBC is the constant use of relevant experts. Former Watergate prosecutors, retired intel experts, retired counterintel experts, prof of constitutional law, and so on.

Fox is a joke in poor taste.

[late]

I see you've found your level.

[Verv]

He genuinely worships Otto Von Bismarck. Lol..

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"The great questions of the day will not be settled by means of speeches and majority decisions but by iron and blood." - Bismarck

That did not work out so well, or rather it led to worse things..

That was a blast from the past.

Honestly, I didn't know I was that cool back then. I thought I was still some kind of John Locke guy in 2006 and didn't really start to change until later.

Thanks for the refresher.

[BigSteve]

I see you've found your level.

Hey, gotta' play to the lowest common denominator...

[late]

That was a blast from the past.

Honestly, I didn't know I was that cool back then. I thought I was still some kind of John Locke guy in 2006 and didn't really start to change until later.

Thanks for the refresher.

Realpolitik is, by definition, "a system of politics or principles based on practical rather than moral or ideological considerations."

In Foreign policy circles, it means an aggressive foreign policy meant to expand territory or power. It views life as a Zero Sum game.

Which is a mistake, Realpolitik carries with it the seeds of it's destruction.

Partly because life is not Zero Sum, mostly because things like empires routinely create new enemies, and new expenses. Which is why, for the last few centuries, at least one empire has bit the dust, in each century, sometimes more than one.

[Hindsite]

What I like best about MSNBC is the constant use of relevant experts. Former Watergate prosecutors, retired intel experts, retired counterintel experts, prof of constitutional law, and so on.

Fox is a joke in poor taste.

FOX News have relevant experts too, but most are conservative instead of liberal like on CNN and MSNBC. That is why you don't like FOX, because they have experts that don't mimic the left-wing talking points all the time. FOX News now has liberal Professor of law ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ because CNN and MSNBC refused to call him back because he was telling the truth and not conforming to their talking points. But FOX News also has some Trump haters like CNN and MSNBC that I am sure you would like. FOX News has something for every political view, but more for the conservative point of view. I like FOX because you can also hear the truth most of the time on political matters. That is hard to come by on CNN and MSNBC that even put out a lot of Fake political news.