[One Degree]

There's nothing self-righteous about an opinion because it's a freaking opinion. Go bother someone else with your straw men.

That’s funny. I have no trouble believing there are people who don’t think their opinions are self righteous. You just confirmed it. Lol

[Albert]

[Beren]

It does not matter if he is a fascist dictator unless he attempts to coerce other countries. Then it is my concern.

My concern is that mankind is falling apart while we should cooperate more than ever, and Fascism is not good for cooperation. Even Hitler and Mussolini couldn't cooperate as good as FDR and Stalin could, they were rather rivals. Some say there will be a Trump-Bolsonaro axis, I'm not sure. I also wonder whether how Brazilian democracy will deal with this. Their governmental system seems similar to that of the US, maybe there are effective checks and balances to prevent dictatorship.

[One Degree]

My concern is that mankind is falling apart while we should cooperate more than ever, and Fascism is not good for cooperation. Even Hitler and Mussolini couldn't cooperate as good as FDR and Stalin could, they were rather rivals. Some say there will be a Trump-Bolsonaro axis, I'm not sure. I also wonder whether how Brazilian democracy will deal with this. Their governmental system seems similar to that of the US, maybe there are effective checks and balances to prevent dictatorship.

I agree, but there is no reason shared values must be a requirement for cooperation. If values are a requirement then it is coercion, not cooperation. You are on a road to authoritarianism of some kind when you add this requirement.

[Beren]

I agree, but there is no reason shared values must be a requirement for cooperation. If values are a requirement then it is coercion, not cooperation. You are on a road to authoritarianism of some kind when you add this requirement.

My point is that even Liberals like FDR and Bolsheviks like Stalin could cooperate better than Fascists like Hitler and Mussolini could, not to mention the Japanese. Additionally, they were explicitly aggressive towards others.

[One Degree]

My point is that even Liberals like FDR and Bolsheviks like Stalin could cooperate better than Fascists like Hitler and Mussolini could, not to mention the Japanese. Additionally, they were explicitly aggressive towards others.

There are always going to be people we can’t communicate with. I don’t think ideology has much to do with that. What was the difference between Hitler and Stalin? They were both authoritarians. I have no doubt they would be the same no matter what ideology they put on for a disguise.
My neighbor and I hating everything about one another is no reason we can not agree we need a fence between us or a third neighbor needs help. We only need to agree on what needs our cooperation, nothing else.

Edit: Aggression is a deal breaker.

[Beren]

What was the difference between Hitler and Stalin?

Good question because they were not the same.

[Albert]

My concern is that mankind is falling apart while we should cooperate more than ever, and Fascism is not good for cooperation. Even Hitler and Mussolini couldn't cooperate as good as FDR and Stalin could, they were rather rivals. Some say there will be a Trump-Bolsonaro axis, I'm not sure. I also wonder whether how Brazilian democracy will deal with this. Their governmental system seems similar to that of the US, maybe there are effective checks and balances to prevent dictatorship.

I think there is greater possibility of cooperation from the right then from the left. The progressive left completely refuses to recognize today that their way of thought is not the only way of existence.

[skinster]

[Politiks]

Standard South American stuff. Socialist -> hard Rightist -> Socialist -> hard Rightist. This has been going on for a century now. This guy is nothing special considering the cycle. i guess some people don't like that that he is a ragging homophobe...

Brazil never had a "hard" right wing and Brazil had every possible type of Government available. There isn't a Alt Right in Brazil. Not even the 25 year dictatorship was hard right. The prerogative in South America is Left, Center Right, Dictators, left, center right...

I think Bolsonaro is more of a Leftist phobe than a actual homophobe. There was a flamboyant right wing Federal Deputy called Clodovil that Bolsonaro got along really well and had zero problems with him being gay (and he was reallyyyyyyy gay). On the other hand he has issues with the left communist imbecil in Congress called Jean Willys. Bolsonaro has bipolar opinions, usually loud and raging

[Politiks]

https://twitter.com/thotcrime2049/status/1056917816509689857

I think there is greater possibility of cooperation from the right then from the left. The progressive left completely refuses to recognize today that their way of thought is not the only way of existence.

[Politiks]

As the presidential candidate of the Social Liberal party Bolsonaro :

• espouses populist and nationalist views that often stray into far-right territory

• is a vocal opponent of same-sex marriage, abortion and immigration

• has defended the death penalty and the 1964-85 military dictatorship

• is pro free market and privatisation

• has praised Gen Pinochet

• expressed support for torturers and called for political opponents to be shot

• paints himself as a tropical Donald Trump

• on top of repeated calls for a return to dictatorship, he has made equally inflammatory attacks on women, black people, gay people, foreigners and indigenous communities

Libertarian Fascism in its pure form, I think.

The Evangelical Bench oppose the usage of the word marriage for same sex marriage but 90% support Civil Union (like in UK) with all the same rights as marriage. The dispute over the word marriage is endless... they always make noise about that. Evangelicals are a minority though the Catholics and Kardecists are the majority and these days they couldn't careless.

Bolsonaro didn't praise Pinochet, he praised Brazil's dictatorship not the one in Chile. He did praise a controversial general named Ustra accused of torturing communist terrorist guerrillas

Bolsonaro is too dumb to be compared to Trump.

[Sivad]

[B0ycey]

Bolsonaro is too dumb to be compared to Trump.

Wow!!! That is pretty damn dumb, as Trump is friggin' dumb!!!

[Hong Wu]

This guy really is like Trump x10. He sounds awesome, reading quotes from him has made me laugh out loud more than once.

Some leftists are wondering why they couldn't get rid of Hillary, or why the Brazilian leftists couldn't get rid of a guy who was literally running for president from his prison cell after being convicted of corruption. It's almost like leftists and socialists are prone to corruption and being tied down to poor candidates is a reflection of this.

[layman]

It is telling when people talk of loving a candidate to hating the other side in the same breath. The love for trumpian types is relative to how much the other hate them.

It’s another shallow trend in politics.

[One Degree]

It is telling when people talk of loving a candidate to hating the other side in the same breath. The love for trumpian types is relative to how much the other hate them.

It’s another shallow trend in politics.

I think there is s lot of truth there. Democrats and the liberal media created a strong Trump base with attacks seen as unreasonable to most Americans. The fact Hillary’s ‘deplorables’ comment was adopted by conservatives is compelling evidence of this. So why have Democrats not learned anything from this? They are worse than ever in their attacks. They seem to believe their propaganda of vilification will still win out. We will see if this election opens their eyes.

[Rugoz]

The fact Hillary’s ‘deplorables’ comment was adopted by conservatives is compelling evidence of this.

Hillary was simply being honest. Trump is a joke and Trumpsters are deplorable. Should she pretend otherwise because of political correctness?

[One Degree]

Hillary was simply being honest. Trump is a joke and Trumpsters are deplorable. Should she pretend otherwise because of political correctness?

I think you missed the point. We want you to continue saying such things. It swings more people Trump’s way everyday.

[Rugoz]

I think you missed the point. We want you to continue saying such things. It swings more people Trump’s way everyday.

You missed the point. I was making fun of your whining about political correctness. Politicians don't attack voters for a reason. What Hillary did was dumb, but it was honest.