[One Degree]

How do you want me to enlighten you? That creating 3D drawings with stone is difficult?

3D doesn’t explain it. You would then have the cattle going in two different directions. He was obviously smart enough to be trying to show something, I am just unsure what the something is.

[B0ycey]

3D doesn’t explain it. You would then have the cattle going in two different directions. He was obviously smart enough to be trying to show something, I am just unsure what the something is.

Prosthetic Conscience has already told you what they are trying to show. Anyone with an ounce of cognitive thinking can see what it showing. If you have plenty spare I suggest you bloody use it.

[One Degree]

:eh:

Prosthetic Conscience has already told you what they are trying to show. Anyone with an ounce of cognitive thinking can see what it showing. If you have plenty spare I suggest you bloody use it.

Please quit pretending you understand something you obviously don’t. You are making inane comments hoping someone else explains it to you. Lol.

[B0ycey]

Please quit pretending you understand something you obviously don’t. You are making inane comments hoping someone else explains it to you.

What do I need to understand? That Africa was using the wheel? That is your problem not mine.

Although Ingliz provided the evidence and PC provided the explanation. Your failure to understand simple drawings is a sign of lack of intelligence btw.

[One Degree]

What do I need to understand? That Africa was using the wheel? That is your problem not mine.

Although Ingliz provided the evidence and PC provided the explanation. Your failure to understand simple drawings is a sign of lack of intelligence btw.

More inanity? It does not prove Africa was using the wheel. That is illogic on your part.
If you understand it, why are you not explaining it? I fully admit there must be some explanation I am not seeing.

[ingliz]

an actual wheel

Does it matter?

People use inventions if they allow tasks to be performed with greater efficiency. I have shown wheels were used in pre colonial Sub-Saharan societies where it was appropriate. But why use a wheel when using pack animals, porterage, or rivers to travel through difficult terrain is easier.

Even now, in the 21st century, the US Army uses pack animals.



SGT John A. Freeshea, an animal packers course instructor at Marine Corps Mountain Warfare Training Center, Bridgeport, CA, leads the way on his horse during an exercise at the Hawthorne Army Ammunition Depot training grounds, Hawthorne, NV, 24 Feb 2009.

[B0ycey]

More inanity? It does not prove Africa was using the wheel. That is illogic on your part.
If you understand it, why are you not explaining it? I fully admit there must be some explanation I am not seeing.

It is a picture of cattle pulling a device similar to that of a chariot. It has wheels. That is about as clear cut evidence you will get that the wheel was invented and used from a cave drawing. And evidence is synonym to proof btw. So sorry One Degree. This is just you chatting bollocks and anyone reading your posts will know this.

[One Degree]

It is a picture of cattle pulling a device similar to that of a chariot. It has wheels. That is about as clear cut evidence you will get that the wheel was invented and used from a cave drawing. And evidence is synonym to proof btw. So sorry One Degree. This is just you chatting bollocks and anyone reading your posts will know this.

You still haven’t explained why the oxen is upside down? What is it intended to demonstrate? I can easily assume from this picture that he was very imaginative and thought this configuration would defy gravity. It could be pure make believe. Science fiction. You realize they also drew porn on cave walls. This is no more proof of working wheels than a drawing is proof of a working helicopter.

[B0ycey]

You still haven’t explained why the oxen is upside down? What is it intended to demonstrate? I can easily assume from this picture that he was very imaginative and thought this configuration would defy gravity. It could be pure make believe. Science fiction. You realize they also drew porn on cave walls. This is no more proof of working wheels than a drawing is proof of a working helicopter.

Oh dear. The cave dweller obviously didn't draw the image to explain history to an elderly gentlemen with virtually no cognitive thinking. The image is designed for simplicity to explain a narrative. Asking why the oxen is defying gravity is like asking why is isn't 3D or why it lacks precision. Sometimes you just need to use your brain and think.

[One Degree]

Oh dear. The cave dweller obviously didn't draw the image to explain history to an elderly gentlemen with virtually no cognitive thinking. The image is designed for simplicity to explain a narrative. Asking why the oxen is defying gravity is like asking why is isn't 3D or why it lacks precision. Sometimes you just need to use your brain and think.

Your continued pretense of knowledge through insults is transparent and boring. You have no friggin’ idea why he drew this picture on a wall. How could you?

[B0ycey]

Your continued pretense of knowledge through insults is transparent and boring. You have no friggin’ idea why he drew this picture on a wall. How could you?

I don't need to know why he drew the image but what it represents.

[One Degree]

:eh:

I don't need to know why he drew the image but what it represents.

Goody. I just drew a picture of a faster than light space ship. Now we can immediately fly to other solar systems because all we need is a picture to create reality.

[B0ycey]

Goody. I just drew a picture of a faster than light space ship. Now we can immediately fly to other solar systems because all we need is a picture to create reality.

There is no hope for you One Degree. If you want to believe that Africa didn't use the wheel that is your problem. But if you think anyone will take you seriously when suggesting such a thing, I can tell you they won't.

[ingliz]

@One Degree

chariot

"... trans-Saharan trade between West and North Africa began as early as 1000 B.C., when the desert crossing was made possible by oxen and by chariots or carts drawn by horses."

Yusuf Umar Madugu quoting Hopkins in Transportation and Trade in Pre-colonial Kano History Department, Bayero University, Kano.

[One Degree]

@One Degree


Trans-Saharan trade between West and North Africa began as early as 1000 B.C., when the desert crossing was made possible by oxen and by chariots or carts drawn by horses.

Yusuf Umar Madugu quoting Hopkins in Transportation and Trade in Pre-colonial Kano History Department, Bayero University, Kano.

I never questioned the trade. You can refresh my memory, but I don’t recall there was ever any proof these carts had wheels. Sleds work quite well. Long time ago since I read about it, but I recall this being questionable. My memory is also questionable.

[ingliz]

I don’t recall there was ever any proof these carts had wheels.

The carts had wheels.

[One Degree]

The carts had wheels.

What did they make them out of? How did they form them? How did they connect the hitch to the axel? Drawing a picture is easy.
Actually, I have no reason to doubt they may have been capable of doing so as I believe they were probably as intelligent as we are. Whether they actually did or not is a different question.

[Stormsmith]

Subject
Source, please, @ingliz . I have an interest in the history of equitation and now it seems, camelry. Live and learn, eh?

From wiki leaks

The first recorded use of the camel as a military animal was by the Arab king Gindibu, who is claimed to have employed as many as 1000 camels at the Battle of Qarqar in 853 BC. A later instance occurred in the Battle of Thymbra in 547 BC, fought between Cyrus the Great of Persia and Croesus of Lydia. According to Xenophon, Cyrus' cavalry were outnumbered by as much as six to one. Acting on information from one of his generals that the Lydian horses shied away from camels, Cyrus formed the camels from his baggage train into an ad hoc camel corps with armed riders replacing packs. Although not technically employed as cavalry, the smell and appearance of the camels was crucial in panicking the mounts of the Lydian cavalry and turning the battle in Cyrus' favor.

Autocorrect and I will come to blows in a minute

[Pants-of-dog]

Here is photographic evidence of wheeled vehicles being used by primitive people:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:20 ... ograph.jpg

[skinster]

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