[Beren]

I was talking about 2 leaders likely being killed by their enemies, I didn't name any orgs.

Sure, but your reply suggested the CIA had killed Arafat. I wonder if you confuse people and things intentionally or accidentally recently.

[skinster]

Sounds like you're the confused one, even after clarification. Anyway, you're off-topic (and boring).

[Beren]

Sounds like you're the confused one, even after clarification.

What clarification? Repeating yourself is supposed to be clarification? You didn't name any orgs, so what?

Anyway, you're off-topic (and boring).

Your tendentious (and boring) posting was off-topic first because Arafat doesn't belong here. First I thought you just had confused the CIA with Mossad, but now it's clear that it was intentional, as always.

[skinster]

You didn't name any orgs, so what?

So your claim that I think the CIA and Mossad are the same thing is retarded.

Your tendentious (and boring) posting was off-topic first because Arafat doesn't belong here.

Right, but you insist on going on about it like a boring stalker.

[Beren]

So your claim that I think the CIA and Mossad are the same thing is retarded.

Well, it could be argued they basically are.

Right, but you insist on going on about it like a boring stalker.

I just don't understand why you waste your time and energy here, why don't you confine yourself to Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, etc.? How is this place so important? What's the point? This is just a tiny corner of the internet, isn't it?

[skinster]

Well, it could be argued they basically are.

So now you're stating that thing you were having a go at me about?

I just don't understand why you waste your time and energy here, why don't you confine yourself to Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, etc.? How is this place so important? What's the point? This is just a tiny corner of the internet, isn't it?

Whilst amusing, I don't know why my presence here offends you since it has nothing to do with the topic at hand, which is Venezuela.

[Beren]

So now you're stating that thing you were having a go at me about?

I could imagine it as a more-or-less valid argument.

Whilst amusing, I don't know why my presence here offends you since it has nothing to do with the topic at hand, which is Venezuela.

I just don't see why this place also has to be swarmed with agents and propagandists.

[skinster]

Dude who made the fake news thread about North Korea a day or so ago is calling me a propagandist.

Back on topic.

[Beren]

Dude who made the fake news thread about North Korea a day or so ago is calling me a propagandist.

How is it fake news? They've been tricked a few times before, so you and ThirdTerm declare it fake news and urge the rest of us to move on. But even if it's fake news, I didn't mean to disseminate fake news intentionally and I'm not doing a job here.

[skinster]

[JohnRawls]

Some travel in modern times Venezuela. Mostly the capital but you get the idea.

Middle class areas:

Other areas with escort because it is a bit dangerous:

Other areas without escort i think(Not exactly slums but okay neibherhood):

As of other news, Venezuela keeps torturing people to death: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... ael-acosta

Also inflation is skyrocketing again it seems so currency is getting redone 2nd time this year apparently: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... rinflation

Exodus of people leaving the country reaches 4 million: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... gee-agency

[Zionist Nationalist]

@JohnRawls
this is all lies Venezuela is greatest country in the world

[JohnRawls]

@JohnRawls
this is all lies Venezuela is greatest country in the world

Kind of. Imagine approaching a person and asking him, hey how many hot dogs or Big Macs can you buy from your salary? Hmmm, probably 2.5 Hot Dogs or 1 Big Mac. Oh yeah and i spend more money getting to work than actually working for 8 hours

And Petrolium shortages in Venezuela? Isn't it supposed to be a super oil rich country? Oh wait, i mentioned this before. That the main refining/manufacturing facilities need to refine heavy crude which are all located in the US because it is not so easy as with light crude.

[QatzelOk]

Kind of. Imagine approaching a person and asking him, hey how many hot dogs or Big Macs can you buy from your salary? Hmmm, probably 2.5 Hot Dogs or 1 Big Mac. Oh yeah and i spend more money getting to work than actually working for 8 hours

And Petrolium shortages in Venezuela? Isn't it supposed to be a super oil rich country? Oh wait, i mentioned this before. That the main refining/manufacturing facilities need to refine heavy crude which are all located in the US because it is not so easy as with light crude.

So JohnRawls, you must want the US sanctions to stop as much as I do so that Venezuelans can get back to rebuilding their nation.

Or do you want the US to follow up on its genocidal sanctions with a bombing and war campaign?

You're videos don't say anything about what you are proposing as a solution to Venezuela's sanction-caused misery. Do you propose that Venezuelans go their own way, and try to make alliances with all the other nations in the world while strengthening their resolve and building up their social solidarity even more?

[JohnRawls]

So JohnRawls, you must want the US sanctions to stop as much as I do so that Venezuelans can get back to rebuilding their nation.

Or do you want the US to follow up on its genocidal sanctions with a bombing and war campaign?

You're videos don't say anything about what you are proposing as a solution to Venezuela's sanction-caused misery. Do you propose that Venezuelans go their own way, and try to make alliances with all the other nations in the world while strengthening their resolve and building up their social solidarity even more?

Yes, the sanctions can be ended as soon as a free election is held under the supervision of the European Union, US, Russia and China etc.

Part of the problem is that the Venezuelan economy collapsed long before ANY sanctions were in place. So Maduro did what any person who wants to cling to power while having not enough real support does: he rigged the election, harassed the opposition and basically became a pariah of the region.

The problem of the economic situation of Venezuela is the regime who collapsed it and doesn't want to change or go away. It seems that without Maduro stepping down and letting somebody else rule for 4-5 years there won't be any real economic change. And whatever you like it or not, liberalism is the only choice for Venezuela to get a semblance of an economy back.

Why do we care so much about collapse of Venezuela? Well, the rest of the world and especially Venezuelan neighbours have to shoulder a big burden of that economic fallout. Not to mention nobody likes seeing people dying of starvation or lack of medicine due to the incompetence of Maduro who blatantly thinks that he has done nothing wrong.

[Pants-of-dog]

If we look at almost every other attempt at socialism in the history Latin America, and assume the same things are happening here as in the majority of previous attempts, it would be reasonable to assume that the US has been covertly crippling the economy.

[skinster]

Glad this coup has failed, even though genocidal American sanctions have killed tens of thousands of people.

Lol @ JohnRawls and co who continue acting like they care about democracy and human rights in the anus of the aforementioned genocidal regime.

[Patrickov]

Yes, the sanctions can be ended as soon as a free election is held under the supervision of the European Union, US, Russia and China etc.

China has (and thus is eligible to oversee) free elections? (or on a lesser extent, Russia?) Have you lost your mind?

[Patrickov]

Glad this coup has failed, even though genocidal American sanctions have killed tens of thousands of people.

Lol @ JohnRawls and co who continue acting like they care about democracy and human rights in the anus of the aforementioned genocidal regime.

Prove the sanctions (instead of Maduro's policies) led to the deaths of the people you mentioned.

Besides, the failure of Maduro to protect this number of people, is a very clear proof that he's so incompetent that he deserves no sympathy.

This article is surely a very nice example of "overcoming oneself".

[skinster]

Here you go, took a second to find (but has already been reported on this thread)

From 2017 alone:


As for Genocidal America, you can start with the natives of America and go through American history from that point on, noob. #HistoryIsNotYourFrandObvs