[Rancid]

Banks engaging in predatory practices. Color me surprised.

[ckaihatsu]

@ckaihatsu, If it's funny to you then why do you sound upset? Your useless words don't have any meanings. I have pointed out to you multiple times on how you keep twisting words. Are you seriously retarded? I have fucking told you many times and have given you examples on how you keep twisting words.

I am not hypersensitive. What does that have to do with politics. You are retarded as fuck. I had political discussions with you, and I kept telling you that you keep twisting words and that I have given you many examples through out time. You're trying to make me look bad so you can look good.

I can judge your "labour credits" model without explaining because all you're going to do is twist my words if I do explain. And you're going to lie and say that you won't. And you lie and you twist words because your model doesn't make any sense, so you have to do that in order to cover up your fucking flaws.

How can you be so *scared* of me 'twisting your words' and other representations of your positions by me?

If I'm *wrong*, then just *point out* where I'm wrong.

You make it sound like you can't handle specifics out of some kind of a fear of me.

Just make your case(s), otherwise you're just positing *empty* accusations at me.

[SSDR]

@ckaihatsu, I am not fucking scared of you. I never said I was scared of you.

You're making shit up you fucking retard. The fuck.

[ckaihatsu]

@ckaihatsu, I am not fucking scared of you. I never said I was scared of you.

You're making shit up you fucking retard. The fuck.

It's not the kind of thing you have to *say*, SSDR -- it's simply *apparent* since you're either unable or unwilling to deal with *details*. You've done nothing but refer to *abstractions*, mostly in a *dismissive* way. If you can't address the details then you're not being *specific* to the actual content of the topic, whether that's my labor credit model or a thread topic or anything else.

In other words you're here just to hear yourself talk and you're not actually addressing any subject matter. You're frothing up a lot of foam but there's nothing inside of it with any substance.

Don't waste your own time and don't waste others' time, as in my obliged defenses for your baseless accusations. If you have nothing but your own trite opinions, then just don't bother. It's just *not* enough and you could be doing better things with that time, I'm sure. Thanks in advance for understanding.

[Potemkin]

Wow, it didn't take long for this thread to go to shit.

@ckaihatsu @SSDR Get a room you two, and have a nice, long hate-fuck. Don't force the rest of us to witness this.

[SSDR]

@ckaihatsu, I can deal with details. The details that you say don't add up. And don't fucking tell me not to "waste my own time" you fucking retard. I understand what you're saying, but what you say NEVER adds up. You always change the matter of the conversations.

[SSDR]

@Potemkin

[ckaihatsu]

Wow, it didn't take long for this thread to go to shit.

@ckaihatsu @SSDR Get a room you two, and have a nice, long hate-fuck. Don't force the rest of us to witness this.

Funny, but it's not like that in the least.

@ckaihatsu, I can deal with details. The details that you say don't add up. And don't fucking tell me not to "waste my own time" you fucking retard. I understand what you're saying, but what you say NEVER adds up. You always change the matter of the conversations.

Stop with the name-calling and projecting your own behavior onto me, and if you can't deal with the subject matter then just shut the fuck up. Can you comprehend *that*?

[SSDR]

@ckaihatsu, Stop with the twisting the words and projecting your own behavior onto me, and if you can't deal with the subject matter then just shut the fuck up. Can you comprehend or no? Because I know you can't comprehend shit.

[ckaihatsu]

@ckaihatsu, Stop with the twisting the words and projecting your own behavior onto me, and if you can't deal with the subject matter then just shut the fuck up. Can you comprehend or no? Because I know you can't comprehend shit.

This is getting too childish. Please stop your 'mirroring'-type responses, contrarian.

[SSDR]

@ckaihatsu, You are responsible for how people treat you, so you're speaking on your behalf.

[ckaihatsu]

@ckaihatsu, You are responsible for how people treat you, so you're speaking on your behalf.

Pretty creepy, there, SSDR -- like everything comes down to the individual in some moralistic postmodernist way.

This is just more of your blaming-the-victim mentality while ignoring the machinations of the broader world. I don't know how *anyone* could live in this way that you project for public consumption. We'd all wind up *neurotic* by this kind of social mindset that you're advancing for everyone else but yourself.

(Yes, individuals are obviously part of the larger world, and so *everyone* has an impact on it, but, no, not everything that happens to someone is strictly due only to their own actions.)

As an example, consider those who have perished in genocides -- would you say that their received torture, suffering, and death is due solely to their own social behavior -- ? (Etc.)

Here's a better approach to matters of *social structure*:


Worldview Diagram

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[SSDR]

@ckaihatsu, Blah blah blah blah, this has nothing to do with what I just said. Stop telling people that you're a socialist, you're not a socialist. You're a creep who makes the most autistic diagrams that you should NOT be using as sources to back up your views.

[ckaihatsu]

@ckaihatsu, Blah blah blah blah, this has nothing to do with what I just said. Stop telling people that you're a socialist, you're not a socialist. You're a creep who makes the most autistic diagrams that you should NOT be using as sources to back up your views.

Yeah, this coming from you, who's not a socialist because you can't even see the need for *international* proletarian upheaval.

Here's the link to those diagrams:

https://postimage.org/ckaihatsu

[SSDR]

@ckaihatsu, What does this have to do with Australia's Banking Corruption?

Those diagrams look retarded AS FUCK.

[ckaihatsu]

@ckaihatsu, What does this have to do with Australia's Banking Corruption?

Those diagrams look retarded AS FUCK.

Yeah, fuck off.

[SSDR]

@ckaihatsu, I wasn't trying to go against you. I was just saying that those diagrams look like something that an autistic person would take years to make lmfaooo.

[Stardust]

@ckaihatsu, Blah blah blah blah, this has nothing to do with what I just said. Stop telling people that you're a socialist, you're not a socialist. You're a creep who makes the most autistic diagrams that you should NOT be using as sources to back up your views.

If his arguments are that empty, and his political views as unworthy as you're trying to make them look; then why don't you just ignore him?

I don't have as much time as you do to spare here on the trivial matters; but I can't help noticing that you keep appearing where ever Ckaihatsu starts posting in a thread. What does that tell anyone..?

You have been picking on him for a long time now, and will probably do so; because you cannot defeat his views by logic, so instead you've found yourself an easy way of attacking him personally.

Well my dear, it doesn't work that way on a Political forum. No matter how many times you try to insult someone personally; it doesn't come to your rescue when you're in the need for reasoning, and to win your opponent by the means of logic.

You have nothing to say, and therefore you put the swear words in the rows after rows, and even make some of your own; but those efforts don't change the fact that you are defeated in your political argument. And, nothing, not even the ugliest swear words can ever change that.

An unbiased reader, cannot help but to feel sorry for you...

[SSDR]

@Stardust, I am not picking on his personal, and political viewpoints. I am trying to have him understand that his points never add up, he is easy to comprehend, but he doesn't make direct responses, and he rarely states his own views, he just copies and pastes web links or uses his autistic diagrams.

I am not trying to win a political argument. Who ever told you that is lying to you.

[Stardust]

@Stardust, I am not picking on his personal, and political viewpoints.

Why do I find that hard to believe…

I am trying to have him understand that a. his points never add up, b. He is easy to comprehend,

Well, I and any unbiased observer; can easily find two contradictory statements from you here side by side.

but he doesn't make direct responses,

I'm not sure exactly what makes you say so, but assuming it is right; people have different preferred styles in how they converse / communicate with the others, one cannot / should not hold that against them. After all, it is the content of one's argument / discussion that matters more than how they put it forward.

and he rarely states his own views,

He explains things, sometimes in an elaborative and detailed way, to help the person reach their own conclusions; rather than ‘telling’ them directly what is good or bad, right or wrong. This is not equivalent to ‘not stating one’s own views’. And, it’s actually a good method I would say, by giving the person/s he talks to; the freedom to have their own thoughts, and understandings…

he just copies and pastes web links

I don't recall a single instance, when he just attached a link, with no explanations to go with it; or not to have used it as an addition / complementary to what he has already explained.

or uses his autistic diagrams.

Firstly, the combination you have used here, is incorrect. The term 'autistic' is generally used with the reference to a person or group of individuals; not to 'things' such as 'diagrams'.

Autism: A developmental disorder of variable severity that is characterized by difficulty in social interaction and communication and by restricted or repetitive patterns of thought and behavior.

Secondly, you're just saying this because you don't understand / make efforts to understand the meanings / implications of the referred diagrams. Therefore, you turn to the easy way of 'branding' them (or should it be him..?)

I am not trying to win a political argument. Who ever told you that is lying to you.

Perhaps you're not, but your're talking too contradictory most of the time, seemingly sometimes just like to hear your own words; and some other times, repeating the other person's words.
Then again, perhaps you actually are trying to win an argument, but preferring the method of making a smokescreen to hide your actual political agenda.