[annatar1914]

I'm sometimes wrong about these things, but I think the current slate of Democratic candidates is likely an electoral disaster for the Democrats. The fact that they lost white voters and are running with a slate of diversity candidates again suggests they are a little out of step with the electorate.


Trump's supporters are just fine with a shutdown, but Trump does have to win some moderates. So he's letting the Democrats appear to be unreasonable and extreme. Trump is successful at that, because he fights back directly--something the Bush family would never do.

Speaking as one adult on these issues to another, I get the distinct feeling that we will be seeing a repeat of the same detachment from reality, hysteria, and doubling down on stupid that we saw in 2016, again in 2020.

The very thing that brings the Democrat tribal coalition together is the very thing that blinds them again and again to the world around them, that if they repeat; ''orange man bad'' and ''Russia hacked election'' enough times, that somehow President Trump and his ''Deplorables'' (you know, the people who the real Left used to call the ''Proletariat'', the working productive people of America) will just go away.... That somehow if they try to tick enough boxes in the Identity Politics sweepstakes (black, female, muslim, for example ) they'll have the winning politician to immanentize the eschaton with.

What a crock of shit.

What a bunch of blind feckless losers, and I suppose you on the Right and me on the Left will be cheering on their cataclysmic implosion as the party of parasites, lumpenproles, rootless cosmopolitans, degenerates, hooligans, baby-murderers, and guilty-feeling white liberal bourgeoisie, shatters into a thousand pieces.

[Istanbuller]

They weren't designed to bypass congress on funding.

Says someone whose country banned Mosque minarets and female muslim clothes.

In Switzerland, the state have a dress code and decides what its citizens to wear. Another random day in the country of prohibitions?

[Rugoz]

Says someone whose country banned Mosque minarets and female muslim clothes.

In Switzerland, the state have a dress code and decides what its citizens to wear. Another random day in the country of prohibitions?

Most OT post ever.

Two cantons banned the burqa. As for the minarets, cry me a river.

Turkey tried to kidnap a Swiss-Turkish businessman in Switzerland, and still holds 4 Swiss-Turkish citizens prisoner. As far as I'm concerned you're the enemy.

[Beren]

They weren't designed to bypass congress on funding.

This is the constitutional issue here, obviously. I also wonder if they were designed to fulfil campaign promises. So should presidents be allowed to bypass Congress on funding to fulfil campaign promises? If the answer is yes, then presidential candidates could even campaign with declaring national emergencies. "I promise this and that, and if I don't get funding from Congress, I'll declare a national emergency!" I wonder if any SCOTUS could ever let this abuse of executive power pass.

[Drlee]

I'll declare a national emergency!" I wonder if any SCOTUS could ever let this abuse of executive power pass.

It seems that lately the voice of reason on the court is Roberts. I think that after he screwed the pooch on Citizens United he has come to his senses.

[Beren]

It seems that lately the voice of reason on the court is Roberts. I think that after he screwed the pooch on Citizens United he has come to his senses.

Regardless of their affiliations they all should come to their senses as judges aware of the Constitution. As a result they also should realise Trump shouldn't be president if he can commit something totally and fundamentally unconstitutional like this. I mean I wonder if the Founding Fathers said anything about travel bans, performing such actions may be well within his executive power, but this one is a real unprecedented nonsense, and absurd too.

[jimjam]

I can seriously see a day when the republican party might simply become a third party with some organized independent party arising.

I think you raise a significant point. Trump and his Rush/Sean/Fox juggernaut's increasingly go to position seems to be to cater to a locked in portion of the population with increasingly shrill and fanatical rhetoric that has little or no appeal beyond the rarefied atmosphere in their alternate reality bubble. Trump's initial burst upon the scene left people dazed and confused but, with the passage of time, they are awakening to the fact that Donald's Republican party represents their exclusive minority of the population to the exclusion of all others. It is, by now, quite evident that they have no intention of representing the interests of anyone outside of the Trump/Rush/Sean/Fox bubble. Nor do they give a shit. Trump's farcical comments in his State Of The Trump speech about coming together and unity were laughable at worst and wishful thinking at best. As I have repeatedly mentioned, the seeds of Donald's demise are the same seeds of his success. It is genetically predestined. Four years should be more than enough to see the cycle through.

Mr. Trump may have won the White House with a thin margin built on winning over just enough Obama voters in the right places. But this victory may ultimately have come at the expense of the Republican Party’s long-term electoral prospects. To win some of the Romney coalition back, Republicans would need to moderate their stances on some key issues, like immigration and trade, and, of course, exactly the opposite is happening. Republican strategists will continue to work to expand on Mr. Trump’s success, but their task will get harder and harder if Mr. Trump continues to move the party away from public opinion.

Crucially, the Trump campaign alienated a lot of younger-to-middle-aged voters who had turned out for Mr. Romney in 2012. Four percent of Romney-to-Trump voters were under 30 years old in 2016. In contrast, 18 percent of Romney-to-Clinton voters were under 30, as were 21 percent of Romney-to-nonvoters. Each of these patterns should raise red flags for Republicans, even more so after 18- to 29-year-olds went from supporting Mrs. Clinton by a 25-point margin in 2016 to supporting House Democrats by a 44-point margin in 2018, according to the voter file firm Catalist.



OK, call me an elitist stuck up Democrat liberal but these ^ people look downright stupid.

[blackjack21]

OK, call me an elitist stuck up Democrat liberal but these ^ people look downright stupid.

I'm sure you, @Drlee and the rest of your Democrat friends feel pretty smart around Obama voters...

and Clinton voters:

They are the smart people in America. Right?

[Istanbuller]

They don't like free society and Americans who are proud of it.

I think they would choose to have something like Cuba or Venezuela. They would be proud of poverty and third worldism.

[jimjam]

I'm sure you, @Drlee and the rest of your Democrat friends feel pretty smart around Obama voters...

and Clinton voters:

They are the smart people in America. Right?

This reaction was 100% predictable. I, however, stand by my observation. I know mass stupidity when I see it. So does your boy Donald and he is conning them by the millions because stupid people are the easiest to con. I'm tired of not calling mass stupidity stupid because it's not "nice". Save your childish guilt tripping and antidotal bullshit for someone else. It doesn't work on me. Of course there is no shortage of dumb assholes on the Democrat so called "liberal" side. My point, which i'm sure you see but are not permitted to recognize, is that your boy Donald is a master con artist who is a master at appealing to stupid people and dumbing down the discourse. F.D.R. was also a masterful con artist but, while he paid his dues to the Rich Boy's Club, he also helped, unlike Donald, folks who were not members of the Rich Boys Club.

They don't like free society and Americans who are proud of it.

I apologize if you are offended, this is nothing personal; but mass stupidity has nothing to do with free society and proud Americans that is typical Fox Fake News click bait. I'm sure your mentors Rush and Sean would blow me away with their booming authoritative voices if they ever heard my opinion. Stupid is stupid.

I suspect this will go nowhere fast so, this is my last post on this thread. I have touched a live wire. That's my opinion, take it or leave it. We still have free speech in America and sometimes it is controversial.

[Beren]

OK, call me an elitist stuck up Democrat liberal but these ^ people look downright stupid.

They're just regular Trumpites, the real thing is this:

[blackjack21]

This reaction was 100% predictable. I, however, stand by my observation. I know mass stupidity when I see it.

The right to vote belongs to anyone 18 years or older and a citizen of the United States who hasn't been convicted of a felony. Consequently, there are a lot of dumb voters. In fact, a big part of the effort to prevent blacks from voting was to administer IQ tests. Poll taxes forbidden by the 24th Amendment were also used--I am in favor of poll taxes to keep non-taxpayers from voting. Do you have enough confidence in your position that all Trump voters are stupid that you would you support a uniform IQ test for voting? I'm comfortable with that.

So does your boy Donald and he is conning them by the millions because stupid people are the easiest to con.

Welcome to politics 101.

I'm tired of not calling mass stupidity stupid because it's not "nice".

You are calling people stupid simply because they support Trump and are enthusiastic jingoists. It's possible that they are not all as stupid as you think.

Save your childish guilt tripping and antidotal{sic} bullshit for someone else. It doesn't work on me.

Guilt tripping? I'm just pointing out that there are a lot of dumb Obama and Hillary voters too. The Republicans do not have a monopoly on stupid voters by a long shot, or they would have won the house again. Stupid people are a near majority. That's why feeling smug and elitist should provide you with no comfort at all if you are hoping for your electoral wishes to come true based on an intelligent electorate.

My point, which i'm sure you see but are not permitted to recognize, is that your boy Donald is a master con artist who is a master at appealing to stupid people and dumbing down the discourse.

I think I very clearly stated that he and Mitch McConnell agreed that they would not have the votes to pass a funding bill in a Republican-controlled House, so deferring the matter until after the election--the internal polls and history both suggested the Democrats would pick up the House--was agreed so that they could blame a lack of funding for the wall on Nancy Pelosi. I am for border security, and I'm not fooled by that ruse. That's why I was glad that so many liberal Republicans got torched in 2018.

F.D.R. was also a masterful con artist but, while he paid his dues to the Rich Boy's Club, he also helped, unlike Donald, folks who were not members of the Rich Boys Club.

Trump's policies have helped reduce unemployment and also lowered taxes on working class people. He just isn't handing out fatter welfare checks. Helping people doesn't imply destroying the economy, putting people out of work, and then giving them a government hand out so that they have no choice but to vote for you.

People who get their information exclusively from the mainstream media are fairly easy to manipulate:

America has a bit of a cult-of-personality around presidents and presidential candidates. In fact, the entire world seems quite interested in who is president of the United States. I remember from...I think it was sociology class...that 4-5 year olds think the president is the government. A lot of adults do too, as illustrated above. They have no idea who is on SCOTUS or the leadership of the major parties in either house of Congress. It's frighteningly common.

[Istanbuller]

Spanish colonization was clearly a disaster for the world and yet we are seeing its destructive effects today.

Maybe concept of citizenship shall be abolished. This could be more effective way to fight against socialism driven by already inside 45-50 million Hispanics.

[Godstud]

Democratic socialism exists in many countries not touched by the Spanish. Your statements are founded in ignorance or fear-mongering, and not facts.

[Istanbuller]

I was expecting you come here and write another troll post. You just did it.

How would i live without Godstud posts the true representative of anti Trump bias? It is my personal joy to read internet posts of unemployed from prostitution heaven country Thailand.

[Godstud]

To most of the uneducated, Canada is Socialist.

What has trump to do with your ignorant statement about Socialism? Deflect much?

It is my personal joy to read internet posts of unemployed from prostitution heaven country Thailand.

I am retired(young), not unemployed. Are you capable of telling the two apart?

Yes, prostitution exists everywhere.

Yes, Thailand is a country.

Yes, Thailand is heaven.

What has this to do with Trump? Where do you live @Istanbuller? Is Ad hominems and implied insults all you have?

Childish. Just like Trump, your mentor, apparently.

[Hindsite]

Ann Coulter: "The Only National Emergency Is That Our President Is An Idiot"

She's right about both Trump and his target audience.

I think Ann Coulter is the idiot here. I believe Trump will be the winner in the end because some wall (beautiful sexy steel beams) will be built along the border at key spots because the people want it. The Democrats have just ended their chance in 2020 in the opinion of the near genius.

[Beren]

I think Ann Coulter is the idiot here.

Sure she is, that's why she's a former enthusiastic Trumpite largely disillusioned by Trump now.

[Hindsite]

Sure she is, that's why she's a former enthusiastic Trumpite largely disillusioned by Trump now.

Being disillusioned by Trump is what makes her an idiot now, in my opinion. Trump is showing all of us that he is a tough guy willing to fight for what is right. Ann Coulter is an idiot for not understanding that.

Rush Limbaugh is a genius and isn't disillusioned by Trump.

Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh on Sunday denied that he wields any substantial political influence over President Donald Trump, criticizing the notion as a false narrative pushed by the president’s opponents to make Trump seem incompetent.

“If these people in the media, Chris, really thought that I was telling Trump what to do and when, they’d be calling me, they’d be asking me about it, they’d want to get down to the dirty details,” Limbaugh told host Chris Wallace on “Fox News Sunday.”

“People don’t really believe what they’re saying about this,” Limbaugh said. “It’s just another effort to continue to try to diminish the president, diminish Trump, as somebody who doesn’t know what he’s doing, can’t do it without guidance from the so-called wacko right.

“It’s not at all the way he’s governing, and there isn’t anybody doing what I do that has a thing to do with actually making policy for this president,” he said. “He cares about what everybody thinks, but I don’t make policy.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/ ... mp-1173446

[Drlee]

Rush Limbaugh is a genius and isn't disillusioned by Trump.

Rush Limbaugh is cuckold drug addict who never finished college. That makes him infinitely smarter than his fans. All Rush Limbaugh fans are unintelligent.