Patrickov wrote:The problem is, the CCP is far too powerful that, resistance seems very futile unless some other force defeat them immediately.
If by 'some other force' you're referring to an
external intervention, such as those which took place in the middle-east not long ago; I disagree. Such
interference as I'd prefer to call them, are normally done for gaining interests by those who undertake the acts. No matter how they try to hide their real motives or what they call their operations; as the matter of the conflicts of the interests - in the general terms - between the people everywhere, and those powerful establishments in the west; such interventions always benefit one side of the spectrum, and works out to the disadvantage of the other (to say the least).
Patrickov wrote:If the West, as rumoured, withdraws the visa-free treatment of HKSAR passports, as well as withdraw their investments, after the bill's passage, the economy of Hong Kong is surely going to collapse, and ordinary people like us are more likely starve to submission or death, as we have no chance to "escape" now. Of course, as I didn't renew my BN(O), I don't blame anyone.
So, you do acknowledge that the west doesn't have the interests of Chinese / Hong-kong ordinary people in its political agenda.
Sorry to hear about your issue with the BNO. How did it work for you while still valid?
Patrickov wrote:It seems dire, but I suspect the ordinary Chinese people are actually very eager to see Hong Kong fall, as by then they can claim the place for good. Because of recent history turmoil, their national pride trumps everything.
Perhaps it's not my place to judge this scenario, but I do believe if a nation wishes to gain its independence, due to being mistreated by the central authorities; their demands should be noted and respected by both; the authorities, and the rest of the people.
Patrickov wrote:In any case, I will follow my family on the streets. It's just that we don't just lay down and die, but remember that your argument is, to me, just an excuse of inaction.
That's not so Patrickov. I've already explained my position on this subject. But please let me know, in your view what people like us, in the western societies are expected to do about the current issues of Hong-Kong?
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Patrickov wrote:Back to the topic, I think Assange and WikiLeaks missed / drew away the focus and only made the world worse. After the leaks the reactionaries seemed to gain force in response.
Again, this is just a baseless claim by you. Assange and WikiLeaks have done the world populations a great service by revealing the information - the truth - as it precisely concerns them, their liberties and lives.
'The reactionaries' have increased their pressures against the journalists, and have done more harm to the people's basic democratic rights, in the recent months; but only as the result of the existing economic-political-social order in the world, and the issues and conflicts created by it. The case of Assange and WikiLeaks were used just as an excuse, a
scapegoat we may call it; and definitely not
the cause of these measures.
Also, what you're saying about
'After the leaks the reactionaries seemed to gain force in response.' is like claiming that people in Hong-Kong should presently stay at home and keep silent about the new suppressing measures taken by the government against them, because otherwise they will receive even further pressures - such as the increase of the security measures, arresting, etc. as punishment for their actions. And that - I assume you would agree with me on this - wouldn't be a valid argument.
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