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#15017097
You only aren't a hellhole because of Western aid.


Prove me that Israel is receiving massive aid that according to you is "keeping it afloat" it appears that you cannot do that and you are making yourself look stupid

3.2 billion USD is not much for Israel a country with 300 billion GDP

https://explorer.usaid.gov/cd/ISR


I said Israel was the West's puppet. You are owned by the West not the other way around. That's why Israel takes anything the West says about Israel seriously. It's why they have Hasbara at all. It's because Israel needs the West's money.


Israel needs the west not for donation but for trade and political support

Also trans and gay people can be strong. I don't know where you got that stereotype from.


Trans can be strong because if they were men they will always stay man since its not possible to change the gender entirely
#15017098
Zionist Nationalist wrote:Prove me that Israel is receiving massive aid that according to you is "keeping it afloat" it appears that you cannot do that and you are making yourself look stupid

3.2 billion USD is not much for Israel a country with 300 billion GDP

https://explorer.usaid.gov/cd/ISR


I've literally just posted plenty of evidence of this. Military aid isn't the only aid Israel is receiving.

Israel needs the west not for donation but for trade and political support



It needs it for both. The entire country cannot survive without Western interference.

Trans can be strong because if they were men they will always stay man since its not possible to change the gender entirely


Then why are you saying they're weak?
#15017100
I've literally just posted plenty of evidence of this. Military aid isn't the only aid Israel is receiving.


Where is it show it to me


It needs it for both. The entire country cannot survive without Western interference.


Israel needs political support to prevent any possible world wide boycott thats it.


Then why are you saying they're weak?


of course they are those people are mentally ill
#15017101
Zionist Nationalist wrote:Where is it show it to me


You asked me for sources for my information and I gave it to you. I'm not going to repost it again.

Israel needs political support to prevent any possible world wide boycott thats it.


We both know that's a lie.

of course they are those people are mentally ill


Who determines what is and isn't mentally ill?
#15017102
Verv wrote:And it is a shame because Christians should not become part & party of supporting this state and invest so much into it.

It makes no sense.


For those Evangelicals it makes perfect sense; they believe that Israel is where the second coming of babba Jesus is going to take place during some kind of apocalyptic battle (that includes the murder of hundreds of thousands of Jews, the survivors of which will be forced into Christianity).

Christian Zionists only support Zionism for their own religious interests and Zionists inside of Israel take the support because I suppose they need it from wherever they can get it, even though they probably laugh at the wacky beliefs behind the Christian Zionist support.
#15017106
Palmyrene wrote:I don't know where to find that info. You're Israeli, why don't you point me in the right direction?


Palmyrene wrote:You asked me for sources for my information and I gave it to you. I'm not going to repost it again.

.......
Palmyrene wrote:We both know that's a lie.


no its not


Palmyrene wrote:Who determines what is and isn't mentally ill?


Transexualism is Gender dysmorphia which is a mental illness

From Wikipedia

Gender dysphoria (GD) is the distress a person feels due to their birth-assigned sex and gender not matching their gender identity. People who experience gender dysphoria are typically transgender. Evidence from studies of twins suggests that gender dysphoria not only has psychological causes, but may have biological causes as well.


it was considered as mental illness by the world health organization not long ago but it got removed for political reasons
#15017111
Zionist Nationalist wrote:.......


You're referring to my source for Israel being reliant on aid yes? I posted that already. Don't play these games with me.

no its not


I'm sorry I just simply cannot fathom how you can still disregard any evidence of Israel's atrocities. By doing so you've destroyed your own sense of morality and empathy. For what? A state which will throw you under the bus? Israel doesn't even treat Jews properly, it's own citizens. Why should it protect you?

Transexualism is Gender dysmorphia which is a mental illness


No, gender dysmorphia is the mental illness while transexualism or transitioning is the cure. Your own wikipedia article indicates this. It says gender dysmorphia is a mental illness not transexualism.



it was considered as mental illness by the world health organization not long ago but it got removed for political reasons[/quote]
#15017115
Palmyrene wrote:I'm sorry I just simply cannot fathom how you can still disregard any evidence of Israel's atrocities. By doing so you've destroyed your own sense of morality and empathy. For what? A state which will throw you under the bus? Israel doesn't even treat Jews properly, it's own citizens. Why should it protect you?


He's a sociopathic Zionist, not sure why you're surprised by this, the majority don't consider those they oppress to be human like them, that's why they're okay with the everyday atrocities inflicted on the Palestinians (and other groups).
#15017119
You're referring to my source for Israel being reliant on aid yes? I posted that already. Don't play these games with me.


You was referring to past events Israel indeed was relying on aid in the past but not anymore

I'm sorry I just simply cannot fathom how you can still disregard any evidence of Israel's atrocities. By doing so you've destroyed your own sense of morality and empathy. For what? A state which will throw you under the bus? Israel doesn't even treat Jews properly, it's own citizens. Why should it protect you?


Israel is treating its citizens much better than most world countries
everytime some Israeli is in trouble abroad the government intervenes to help no Arab country does that unless that person is VIP
Why should I care about the "Palestinians"? they are my enemies they want to wipe out my country and giving them a country will be a terrible idea as their proposed country will not be able to function properly due to their geographic position they will turn on Israel unless Israel will give them free shit all the time
its pretty much what is going on in Chechnya they are quite as long as the cash flows in but Israel cannot allow such a luxury
this conflict can be solved peacefully if the Arab states will take responsibility on them but they wont since its a tool to use against Israel but pretty soon everybody around will drop the support for them except the miserable "axis of resistance" (Syria,Iran,Hezbollah,Houthis)


No, gender dysmorphia is the mental illness while transexualism or transitioning is the cure. Your own wikipedia article indicates this. It says gender dysmorphia is a mental illness not transexualism.


gender dysphoria is directly related to transsexualism
#15017121
Zionist Nationalist wrote:Why should I care about the "Palestinians"? they are my enemies they want to wipe out my country and giving them a country will be a terrible idea as their proposed country will not be able to function properly due to their geographic position they will turn on Israel unless Israel will give them free shit all the time


This is a wacky take considering you literally moved to their country (when you were a kid) that was stolen from them (in the 1940s). Palestinians aren't the aggressors here, you are, you stole their land and then enslaved them.
#15017127
Zionist Nationalist wrote:You was referring to past events Israel indeed was relying on aid in the past but not anymore


I disproved that too. Germany was giving Israel aid annually with the most recent news of this being related to an increase in financial aid given to Israel by Germany.

Don't play these games with me. And tag ya coward.

Israel is treating its citizens much better than most world countries


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Israel
Intra-Jewish racism: Racism between Jews

Some Jewish Israelis of European descent, known also as Ashkenazi Jews, have been described as viewing themselves as superior to non-Ashkenazi Jews. They are accused of maintaining an elite position in Israeli society,[150][151] with some describing the attitudes of Ashkenazim as racist or of being a manifestation of racism.[152]

Other authorities describe the discrimination by Ashkenazi as class-based, not race-based.[153][154] For example, the differences between (Mizrahi) Sephardic Jews (N. Africans, Middle Easterners, Yemenites, etc.) are referred to as Adatiyut[155][156][157][158] community-differences (resulting also in some traditional customary gaps).[159]

Some sources claim that reports of intra-Jewish discrimination in Israel arise from propaganda published by Arab sources which ignores the normality and harmony between the communities.[160][161]

Sephardim and Mizrahim (Middle Eastern and North African Jews)

Israeli society in general – and Ashkenazi Jews in particular – have been described as holding discriminatory attitudes towards Jews of Middle Eastern and North African descent, known as Mizrahi Jews, Sephardic Jews, and Oriental Jews.[162] A variety of Mizrahi critics of Israeli policy have cited "past ill-treatment, including the maabarot, the squalid tent cities into which Mizrahim were placed upon arrival in Israel; the humiliation of Moroccan and other Mizrahi Jews when Israeli immigration authorities shaved their heads and sprayed their bodies with the pesticide DDT; the socialist elite's enforced secularization; the destruction of traditional family structure, and the reduced status of the patriarch by years of poverty and sporadic unemployment" as examples of mistreatment.[163] In September 1997, Israeli Labor Party leader Ehud Barak made a high-profile apology to Oriental Jews in Netivot stating:



Barak's address also said that during the 1950s, Mizrahi immigrants were "made to feel that their own traditions were inferior to those of the dominant Ashkenazi [European-origin] Israelis [Alex Weingrod's paraphrase]".[165] Several prominent Labor party figures, including Teddy Kollek and Shimon Peres, distanced themselves from the apology while agreeing that mistakes were made during the immigration period.[165]

The cultural differences between Mizrahi and Ashkenazi Jews impacted the degree and rate of assimilation into Israeli society, and sometimes the divide between Eastern European and Middle Eastern Jews was quite sharp. Segregation, especially in the area of housing, limited integration possibilities over the years.[166] Intermarriage between Ashkenazim and Mizrahim is increasingly common in Israel, and by the late 1990s 28% of all Israeli children had multi-ethnic parents (up from 14% in the 1950s).[167] A 1983 research found that children of inter-ethnic marriages in Israel enjoyed improved socio-economic status.[168]

Although social integration is constantly improving, disparities persist. A study conducted by the Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics (ICBS), Mizrahi Jews are less likely to pursue academic studies than Ashkenazi Jews. Israeli-born Ashkenazi are up to twice more likely to study in a university than Israeli-born Mizrahim.[169] Furthermore, the percentage of Mizrahim who seek a university education remains low compared to second-generation immigrant groups of Ashkenazi origin, such as Russians.[170] According to a survey by the Adva Center,[171] the average income of Ashkenazim was 36 percent higher than that of Mizrahim in 2004.[172]

Some claim that the education system discriminates against Jewish minorities from North Africa and the Middle East, and one source suggests that "ethnic prejudice against Mizrahi Jews is a relatively general phenomenon, not limited to the schooling process".[173]

There was a case in 2010, when a Haredi school system, where Sephardi and Mizrahi students were sometimes excluded or segregated.[174][175] In 2010, the Israeli supreme court sent a strong message against discrimination in a case involving the Slonim Hassidic sect of the Ashkenazi, ruling that segregation between Ashkenazi and Sephardi students in a school is illegal.[176] They argue that they seek "to maintain an equal level of religiosity, not from racism".[177] Responding to the charges, the Slonim Haredim invited Sephardi girls to school, and added in a statement: "All along, we said it's not about race, but the High Court went out against our rabbis, and therefore we went to prison."[178]

Teimani children (Yemenite Jews)

In the 1950s, 1,033[179] children of Yemenite immigrant families disappeared. In most instances, the parents claim that they were told their children were ill and required hospitalization. Upon later visiting the hospital, it is claimed that the parents were told that their children had died though no bodies were presented or graves which have later proven to be empty in many cases were shown to the parents. Those who believe the theory contend that the Israeli government as well as other organizations in Israel kidnapped the children and gave them for adoption. Secular Israeli Jews of European descent were accused of collaborating in the disappearance of babies of Yemeni Jews and anti-religious motives and anti-religious coercion were alleged.[180][181][182][183][184][185][186] Some went further to accuse the Israeli authorities of conspiring to kidnap the Yemeni children due to "racist" motives.[187]

In 2001 a seven-year public inquiry commission concluded that the accusations that Yemenite children were kidnapped are not true. The commission has unequivocally rejected claims of a plot to take children away from Yemenite immigrants. The report determined that documentation exists for 972 of the 1,033 missing children. Five additional missing babies were found to be alive. The commission was unable to discover what happened in another 56 cases. With regard to these unresolved 56 cases, the commission deemed it "possible" that the children were handed over for adoption following decisions made by individual local social workers, but not as part of an official policy.[179]

Bene Israel (Indian Jews)

In 1962, authorities in Israel were accused by articles in the Indian press of racism in relation to Jews of Indian ancestry (called Bene Israel).[188][189] In the case that caused the controversy, the Chief Rabbi of Israel ruled that before registering a marriage between Indian Jews and Jews not belonging to that community, the registering rabbi should investigate the lineage of the Indian applicant for possible non-Jewish descent, and in case of doubt, require the applicant to perform conversion or immersion.[188][189] The alleged discrimination may actually be related to the fact that some religious authorities believe that the Bene Israel are not fully Jewish because of inter-marriage during their long separation.[190]

In 1964 the government of Israel led by Levi Eshkol declared that it regards Bene Israel of India as Jews without exception, who are equal to other Jews in respect of all matters.[188]

Beta Israel (Ethiopian Jews)

Nearly all of the Ethiopian Beta Israel community, a community of Black Jews, resides in Israel. The Israeli government has mounted rescue operations, most notably during Operation Moses (1984) and Operation Solomon (1991), for their migration when civil war and famine threatened populations within Ethiopia.[191][192] Today 81,000 Israelis were born in Ethiopia, while 38,500 or 32% of the community are native born Israelis.[193]

According to the sociologist Prof. Uzi Rebhun, it represents an ambitious attempt to deny the significance of race.[194] Israeli authorities, aware of the situation of most African diaspora communities in other Western countries, hosted programs to avoid setting in patterns of discrimination.[194] The Ethiopian Jewish community's internal challenges have been complicated by racist attitudes on the part of some elements of Israeli society and the official establishment.[195] Racism has commonly been cited as explanation for policies and programs that failed to meet expectations. Racism was alleged regarding delays in admitting Ethiopian Jews to Israel under the Law of return.[194] The delays in admitting Ethiopians may be attributed to religious motivations rather than racism, since there was debate whether or not Falasha Jews' (Beta Israel) were Jewish.[196][197]

Racism was also alleged in 2009, in a case where school children of Ethiopian ancestry were denied admission into three semi-private religious schools in the town of Petah Tikva. An Israeli government official criticised the Petah Tikva Municipality and the semi-private Haredi schools, saying "This concerns not only the three schools that have, for a long time, been deceiving the entire educational system. For years, racism has developed here undeterred". Shas spiritual leader Ovadia Yosef threatened to fire any school principal from Shas's school system who refused to receive Ethiopian students. The Israeli Education Ministry decided to pull the funding from the Lamerhav, Da'at Mevinim and Darkhei Noam schools, the three semi-private institutions that refused to accept the students. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke out against the rejection of Ethiopian children, calling it "a moral terror attack."[198][199]

When Ethiopians protested that blood donations from their community were thrown out, Harry Wall, the Israeli Director of the Anti-Defamation League stated that it was the result of the high incidence of HIV in Africans, not racism: "Whatever Israel's mistakes towards its Ethiopian Jewish community, the cause is not racism." It explains that "what causes the distress is bureaucratic ineptitude and a cultural gap between a traditional community and a modern, technologically-advanced, highly-competitive nation."[200]

In 2012, Israel appointed the country's first Ethiopian-born ambassador, Belaynesh Zevadia. According to the foreign minister of Israel, this represented an important milestone in fighting racism and prejudice.[201]

Depo Provera prescription controversy

In 2010, Israel was accused of a "sterilization policy" aimed towards Ethiopian Jews, for allowing the prescription of contraceptive drugs like Depo-Provera to the community.[202][203] They stated that the Israeli government deliberately gives female Ethiopian Jews long-lasting contraceptive drugs like Depo-Provera.[202] Jewish agencies involved in immigration said that Ethiopian women were offered different types of contraceptives and that "all of them participated voluntarily in family planning".[202] Dr. Yifat Bitton, a member of the Israeli Anti-Discrimination Legal Center "Tmura" said that 60 percent of the women receiving this contraceptive are Ethiopian Jews, while Ethiopians made up only 1 percent of population and "the gap here is just impossible to reconcile in any logical manner that would somehow resist the claims of racism".[202] Professor Zvi Bentwich, an immunologist and human rights activist from Tel-Aviv, rejected the claim and said there's no ground to suspect a negative official policy towards Ethiopian Jews.[202]

Israel initially denied the claim of imposing a sterilization policy on the Ethiopian women,[202] but later admitted to it, and ordered gynaecologists to stop administering the drugs for women of Ethiopian origin if there is concern that they might not understand the ramifications of the treatment.[204] Action on the issue finally took place after a documentary aired in December 2012 on public television. In it, 35 Ethiopian women who had immigrated to Israel said they had been told they would not be allowed into Israel unless they agreed to the shots. While Ethiopians have been admitted to Israel, they are often discriminated against in education and in employment. The Times of Israel notes details of a nurse, unaware of a hidden camera, saying Depo-Provera is given to Ethiopian women because "they forget, they don’t understand, and it’s hard to explain to them, so it’s best that they receive a shot once every three months … basically they don’t understand anything." [205]

Thereafter, the Israeli government began an investigation into the policy, and instructed gynecologists not to administer the shots if there is suspicion that the recipient does not fully understand the effects.[206]

Police brutality

In April 2015 an Ethiopian soldier in the IDF was the victim of an unprovoked and allegedly racist attack by an Israeli policeman and the attack was caught on video. The soldier, Damas Pakedeh, was arrested and accused of attacking the policeman. He believes the incident was racially motivated and that if the video had not been taken, he would have been punished. Likud MK Avraham Neguise called on National Police Chief Yohanan Danino to prosecute the police officer and volunteer, saying they engaged in "a gross violation of the basic law of respecting others and their liberty by those who are supposed to protect us". The Jerusalem Post notes that in 2015 "there have been a series of reports in the Israeli press about alleged acts of police brutality against Ethiopian Israelis, with many in the community saying they are unfairly targeted and treated more harshly than other citizens".[207][208] The incident of police brutality with Pakedeh and alleged brutality of officials from Israel's Administration of Border Crossings, Population and Immigration with Walla Bayach, an Israeli of Ethiopian descent, brought the Ethiopian community to protest. Hundreds of Ethiopians participated in protests the streets of Jerusalem on April 20, 2015, to decry what they view as "rampant racism" and violence in Israel directed at their community. Israel Police Commissioner Yohanan Danino met with representatives of the Israeli Ethiopian community that day following the recent violent incidents involving police officers and members of the community.[209] When over a thousand people protested police brutality against Ethiopians and dark skinned Israelis, Prime MInister Benjamin Netanyahu announced:“I strongly condemn the beating of the Ethiopian IDF soldier, and those responsible will be held accountable.” [210] Following protests and demonstrations in Tel Aviv that resulted in violence, Netanyahu planned to meet with representatives of the Ethiopian community, including Pakado. Netanyahu said the meeting would include Danino and representatives of several ministries, including Immigrant Absorption. Danino already announced that the officer who beat Pakado had been fired.[211]


Wrong.

everytime some Israeli is in trouble abroad the government intervenes to help no Arab country does that unless that person is VIP


Yeah our governments are shit but guess what? We know they're shit. We face reality.

You however are putting your fingers in your ear and screaming whenever anyone even saying anything about Israel. You want to know why I don't just repost what I wrote? Because you won't read it anyway. All that evidence I posted, you'll ignore. That's because you physically can't do it. You're so brainwashed that you literally get traumatized when reading proof that Israel isn't all sunshine and rainbows.

I love how you point to Arab states and scream "but they're bad!". That doesn't do anything to me. You're just projecting. I'm not a nationalist. I'm not delusional like you. I don't think my entire life should be dedicated for a country.

Why should I care about the "Palestinians"? they are my enemies they want to wipe out my country


They want to wipe out your country not you. You are not your country. Your country would throw you under the bus if it was convienant for them.

and giving them a country will be a terrible idea as their proposed country will not be able to function properly due to their geographic position they will turn on Israel unless Israel will give them free shit all the time


Well you take everything away from them even their own aid so clearly they're justifued in wanting something.

its pretty much what is going on in Chechnya they are quite as long as the cash flows in but Israel cannot allow such a luxury
this conflict can be solved peacefully if the Arab states will take responsibility on them but they wont since its a tool to use against Israel but pretty soon everybody around will drop the support for them except the miserable "axis of resistance" (Syria,Iran,Hezbollah,Houthis)


Such contradiction. Arab states won't take responsibility but will at the same time?

gender dysphoria is directly related to transsexualism


So? That's like saying Tylenol is directly related to headaches. Yeah, that's because it's the cure.

Its not their country never was and never will be


It's not the Israelis government's property either. Did you personally make the dirt and earth that you stand on? No you didn't. No one can one a piece of earth fat rock monster.
#15017204
skinster wrote:For those Evangelicals it makes perfect sense; they believe that Israel is where the second coming of babba Jesus is going to take place during some kind of apocalyptic battle (that includes the murder of hundreds of thousands of Jews, the survivors of which will be forced into Christianity).

Christian Zionists only support Zionism for their own religious interests and Zionists inside of Israel take the support because I suppose they need it from wherever they can get it, even though they probably laugh at the wacky beliefs behind the Christian Zionist support.


To be completely fair, though, the views on how this will unfold are incredibly diverse. There are intense debates among Protestants about this.

To also be fair... We Orthodox have our own apocalyptic stories and prophecies.

If you take hundreds of millions of people and put them together into a category of beleif, there are bound to be inconsistencies and crazies...

The issue is less about the crazy, fanatical guys who hold no influence in these things but exist like some sort of wild anti-vaxxers in the modern age, but the very regular Protestants that just believe in dispensationalism and that the Jews are still God's chosen people, and that Israel is still their land. But this, too, is funded and encouraged by Jewish groups.
#15017224
@Verv

You're Orthodox? I love Orthodox Christians. They're like my favorite type of Christians even all the types of flavours of them like Maronites, Syriacs, Copts, Miaphysites, Eastern Orthodox, etc.

Also Jewish groups haven't encouraged or funded this kind of thinking. Yeah Hasbara exists bur that's more secular in tone. Hasbara is just about covering up Israel's atrocities or distracting people with positive stories about Israel.

The whole Evangelical movement for Israel is entirely domestic within the US and is based upon actual Evangelical theology specifically the eras of the televangelists. There are no Jewish groups funding Evangelical lobbies to my knowledge and I'm pretty sure they don't need that money anyway.

Let's be honest here, America as a country has never been conductive to religion at all. It's just a land of megachurches and scam artists who treat religion as a business. Evangelicals, Mormons, etc. are no different. There is no adherence to actual Christian scripture anyone, Christianity has become a cultural thing there not a religion (it's the same way in the Islamic world but to a lesser degree). It isn't Jews who are causing this, it's just American Christians.
#15017338
You however are putting your fingers in your ear and screaming whenever anyone even saying anything about Israel. You want to know why I don't just repost what I wrote? Because you won't read it anyway. All that evidence I posted, you'll ignore. That's because you physically can't do it. You're so brainwashed that you literally get traumatized when reading proof that Israel isn't all sunshine and rainbows.

I love how you point to Arab states and scream "but they're bad!". That doesn't do anything to me. You're just projecting. I'm not a nationalist. I'm not delusional like you. I don't think my entire life should be dedicated for a country.



I dont really like the current government but I want the state to exist.
yes there is racism in Israel but its the same as racism in the US or any other multicultural country (Israel is multicultural)


They want to wipe out your country not you. You are not your country. Your country would throw you under the bus if it was convienant for them.


You still didnt gave me any reason why should I care for them
they are savages and I dont want to share a country with them


It's not the Israelis government's property either. Did you personally make the dirt and earth that you stand on? No you didn't. No one can one a piece of earth fat rock monster.



They didnt built this country they have no rights for it and most of them are immigrants just like the Israelis
#15017344
Zionist Nationalist wrote:I dont really like the current government but I want the state to exist.


Yet you defend it regardless. You'd kill yourself if the Israeli government told you to.

yes there is racism in Israel but its the same as racism in the US or any other multicultural country (Israel is multicultural)


Other countries don't kidnap the children of others or sterilize women to force them to have abortions.

Also Israel is doing this to other Jews. They're doing this to their own people, the same people they promised a homeland for.

You still didnt gave me any reason why should I care for them


I'm not asking you to care. Clearly you've traded your own humanity for nationalism.

they are savages and I dont want to share a country with them


Ah yes they're the savages and not the person who thinks "women and children deserve to be raped" i.e. you.

They didnt built this country they have no rights for it and most of them are immigrants just like the Israelis


What country? You mean the homes, farms, and factories the government destroyed and took from them?

Even if they were immigrants that doesn't give Israel the right to take their property that they were using from them.

Also stop taking credit for what others did. You didn't personally build Israel. You're a loser on the internet who does nothing but scream when someone says something mean about Israel. You did nothing you just rely on the work of others to support you.
#15017345
Yet you defend it regardless. You'd kill yourself if the Israeli government told you to.


lol No.


Other countries don't kidnap the children of others or sterilize women to force them to have abortions.

Also Israel is doing this to other Jews. They're doing this to their own people, the same people they promised a homeland for.


it was done by the racist socialist gvoerment of the past but they are no longer in charge


I'm not asking you to care. Clearly you've traded your own humanity for nationalism


Whatever I dont care

Ah yes they're the savages and not the person who thinks "women and children deserve to be raped" i.e. you.


I never said that


What country? You mean the homes, farms, and factories the government destroyed and took from them?


They didnt built any factories, yes homes were destroyed I think it was justified

Even if they were immigrants that doesn't give Israel the right to take their property that they were using from them.


they sided with the enemy and they got what they deserve


Also stop taking credit for what others did. You didn't personally build Israel. You're a loser on the internet who does nothing but scream when someone says something mean about Israel. You did nothing you just rely on the work of others to support you.


I didnt took credit I said that Israel was built by Jewish people and they deserve this country and not the so called "Palestinians"
#15017378
Zionist Nationalist wrote:lol No.


Well you wouldn't really have a choice would you? If Israel can murder Palestinians for defending their homes they can most certainly do the same to you.

it was done by the racist socialist gvoerment of the past but they are no longer in charge


The Israeli government is the same whether socialists or fascists are running it. They are governments.

Whatever I dont care


"I don't care about empathy or humanity"

I never said that


When I asked you about Israel raping women and children you said and I quote "they deserved it".

They didnt built any factories, yes homes were destroyed I think it was justified


They did build factories. Many factories run by Palestinians were demolished by Israelis.

they sided with the enemy and they got what they deserve[/quote[

They sided with "the enemy" after you demolished their homes.



Israel wasn't only built by the Jewish people. It was built with the blood, genocide, and rape of Palestinians. Of course you're fine with this. You're used to living off the labor of others.
#15017584
Verv wrote:To be completely fair, though, the views on how this will unfold are incredibly diverse. There are intense debates among Protestants about this.

To also be fair... We Orthodox have our own apocalyptic stories and prophecies.

If you take hundreds of millions of people and put them together into a category of beleif, there are bound to be inconsistencies and crazies...

The issue is less about the crazy, fanatical guys who hold no influence in these things but exist like some sort of wild anti-vaxxers in the modern age, but the very regular Protestants that just believe in dispensationalism and that the Jews are still God's chosen people, and that Israel is still their land. But this, too, is funded and encouraged by Jewish groups.


I was talking about the view from Evangelical Christians.

If we're going there, there are plenty of Christian groups that oppose what Israel is doing to Palestine's people, particularly Palestinian Christians.

Zionist Nationalist wrote:I dont really like the current government but I want the state to exist.
yes there is racism in Israel but its the same as racism in the US...


While there is racism in the U.S., there's no laws that I know of that discriminate people based on their religion like Israel's apartheid laws, or bans person from X religion marrying person from Y religion, or bans homosexual marriage, etc.

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