[Ter]

Had this been a fair election where one party wasn't under attack from pretty much everywhere, Labour would be in power now.

I am not disputing that.
I am just so happy that Corbyn the Arab lover is not the Prime minister of the UK.
Losers like you always find a reason to whine.

You even wished Boris Johnson not to survive the COVID-19 virus.
Karma !

[JohnRawls]

I am not disputing that.
I am just so happy that Corbyn the Arab lover is not the Prime minister of the UK.
Losers like you always find a reason to whine.

You even wished Boris Johnson not to survive the COVID-19 virus.
Karma !

Corbynites need to be purged. They are a threat to a sane labour party. They can't even admit that Starmer is soft left and call him a hardcore rightist of sorts in their mind. Basically Tory light?

Fuck em. Purge the Corbynites.

[skinster]

[skinster]

Corbynites need to be purged.

That's what the treacherous rightwing of the party have been attempting. Lucky for them a lot of the membership are flocking away anyway.

They are a threat to a sane labour party.

This did make me chuckle.

Anyway you spelt 'centrist' wrong.

They can't even admit that Starmer is soft left and call him a hardcore rightist of sorts in their mind. Basically Tory light?

He is a part of the rightwing of the party. Not sure how long he's going to last in his new role given this leaked report as well as how he may well be implicated in it, as his pick for a job, the Oldknow woman, quite clearly is.

[JohnRawls]

That's what the treacherous rightwing of the party have been attempting. Lucky for them a lot of the membership are flocking away anyway.



This did make me chuckle.

Anyway you spelt 'centrist' wrong.



He is a part of the rightwing of the party. Not sure how long he's going to last in his new role given this leaked report as well as how he may well be implicated in it, as his pick for a job, the Oldknow woman, quite clearly is.

The information provided right now doesn't seem much besides slander or propaganda. There is no clear evidence of anything by the looks of it. Basically Corbinytes being desperate and doing their usual thing again of trying to undermine the party. One more reason to purge the Corbynistas.

[skinster]

The information provided right now doesn't seem much besides slander or propaganda.

Which part of the report are you referring to?

There is no clear evidence of anything by the looks of it.

The WhatsApp group messages and emails aren't evidence?

Basically Corbinytes being desperate and doing their usual thing again of trying to undermine the party.

Remind me when this happened before.

[JohnRawls]

Which part of the report are you referring to?



The WhatsApp group messages and emails aren't evidence?



Remind me when this happened before.

What is so damning in those messages besides the people being assholes? May be skipping work? Also playing 'Trot or not' the same way you are playing somekind of 'Tory or not'....

[skinster]

Maybe read some of the articles I shared on this before running your mouth because right now you're speaking from a position of ignorance, which admittedly isn't something new in your case, but that's by the by...

[JohnRawls]

Maybe read some of the articles I shared on this before running your mouth because right now you're speaking from a position of ignorance, which admittedly isn't something new in your case, but that's by the by...

I did read some of them. But that is besides the point. The desperation of Corbynists is preciously salty. MMMMM, all those tears. Starmer just won and this information gets leaked straight away. If it was credible then Long Bailey, Corbyn and her ilk would post it earlier to help her win. They didn't. Meaning that most of the things in there, although dickish, is not that of a big deal.

[skinster]

I did read some of them. But that is besides the point.

Doesn't seem like it and it's exactly my point, that you're yapping from a position of ignorance. That there is now an investigation into this investigation and the leaking of the report should tell you something. That those who got caught being traitors, bullies and racists have all gone quiet, locked their social media etc., should also tell you something. These people named in the report - and others - broke their own party rules, in what world do you think that's going to be ignored?

The desperation of Corbynists is preciously salty. MMMMM, all those tears.

You keep sounding like a stupid and dumb child.

Starmer just won and this information gets leaked straight away.

The report got leaked because he refused to deal with it.

If it was credible then Long Bailey, Corbyn and her ilk would post it earlier to help her win.

Meaning that most of the things in there, although dickish, is not that of a big deal.

Racism, sexism and bullying are things that are not tolerated in The Labour Party or by its members. See: the made-up antisemitism accusations directed at left-Labour.

And maybe read a bit more up on this story because you repeatedly sound like an idiot on this topic.

[JohnRawls]

Doesn't seem like it and it's exactly my point, that you're yapping from a position of ignorance. That there is now an investigation into this investigation and the leaking of the report should tell you something. That those who got caught being traitors, bullies and racists have all gone quiet, locked their social media etc., should also tell you something. These people named in the report - and others - broke their own party rules, in what world do you think that's going to be ignored?



You keep sounding like a stupid and dumb child.



The report got leaked because he refused to deal with it.



:?:



Racism, sexism and bullying are things that are not tolerated in The Labour Party or by its members. See: the made-up antisemitism accusations directed at left-Labour.

And maybe read a bit more up on this story because you repeatedly sound like an idiot on this topic.

Sure, call me an idiot. I don't mind. This doesn't change the reality that the report was released almost straight away as Keir Starmer won. You don't need to have an IQ over 9000 to understand that this was prepared for a reason and people doing it were sitting on this just for this moment.

Also some safe logical bets here is that it was the Corbynists behind this. The reason being that it helps them retain power and puts pressure on Starmer to give them more posts. Also probably will try to get rid of candidates for top positions using this report. Basically it is dirt to discredit candidates that might oppose Corbynists for top positions within the party.

As much as i see it. Corbynists are the real traitors here. KICK THEM OUT OF THE PARTY.

[skinster]

This doesn't change the reality that the report was released almost straight away as Keir Starmer won. You don't need to have an IQ over 9000 to understand that this was prepared for a reason and people doing it were sitting on this just for this moment.

Starmer in his new role ignored the report so it was leaked to the press. There's no conspiracy here.

Also some safe logical bets here is that it was the Corbynists behind this.

Well, you got one thing right but I won't credit you since you're stating the obvious.

The reason being that it helps them retain power and puts pressure on Starmer to give them more posts.

The reason behind it is because it's evidence that senior Labour staff violated their own party rules as well as showed us how they're racist and misogynist bullies. Remember how not so long ago, racism - antisemitism - was a big issue for Labour, and no doubt people like you? Well, it's here again. How come you're not crying like a babby about it this time?

As much as i see it. Corbynists are the real traitors here.

How?

KICK THEM OUT OF THE PARTY.

Jesus crisps.

[Ter]

Except for all that, let us not forget that the ambivalent position of Labour on BREXIT was probably the main reason for its defeat.
Whatever your politics are, you will have to admit that the Tories were decisively for BREXIT, and they cast out all the traitors who were undermining BREXIT in Parliament.

Well done Boris, and godspeed !

[snapdragon]

What seems obvious is that there was far too much infighting in the Labour Party that Corbyn couldn’t, or wouldn’t sort out. Hopefully momentum will now stop trying to run things and let Starmer do his job

[ingliz]

Starmer's a waste of space. A quisling Red Tory bastard. His first act as leader was putting the arseholes who deliberately lost an election in his cabinet and his second, to go after the whistleblower who outed them.

[skinster]

Except for all that, let us not forget that the ambivalent position of Labour on BREXIT was probably the main reason for its defeat.

It was the rightwing of Labour that pushed the second referendum idea and that's in part responsible for the 2019 losses. Alongside all the other attacks on the left in the party. And they knew what would happen with pushing the second ref. And it did.

What seems obvious is that there was far too much infighting in the Labour Party that Corbyn couldn’t, or wouldn’t sort out. Hopefully momentum will now stop trying to run things and let Starmer do his job

How was the left in the party attacking the right?

The right of the party launched a shitty leadership coup in 2016, sabotaged the 2017 election and their reckless Brexit policy (backed by Starmer) cost Labour 60 seats in 2019, not Momentum. Even though Jon Lansman can go fuck himself too.

Starmer wanted to ignore the report which he was aware of as soon as he was elected leader - and probably before - and now his focus is finding out who leaked the report rather than punishing those responsible for Labour's loss at the GE in 2017. Because he is amongst those who spent most of their time undermining the leader of the party and after his election he rewarded those in the party who were helping to destroy it.

Starmer is also doing a shit job as leader, with regards to Covid. Piers fucking Morgan is doing a better job on that front.

The Tories are in power today in large part because of the Labour-right's treachery against the left of the party.

The U.K. again has two rightwing parties, just like the U.S.

[Rich]

The U.K. again has two rightwing parties, just like the U.S.

No it doesn't Labour are the left wing party by definition. They may be right-wing relative to you, as the Tory party is left-wing relative to some people, but that's irrelevant. Right and left are always relative to time and place. Its the same when people complain about the Nazis being socialist. Maybe they were, but they were still the major right wing part in the last free elections of the Weimar Republic.

As to the leadership question, MPs should elect the leader, letting the membership decide, is just stupid. I've nothing against mandatory reselection. I've nothing against the membership radically changing the MPs, that's democracy, but electing Corbyn given the PLP at the time was a recipe for disaster. It would be just the same if the Labour MP's were 90% Corbynite and they had Blair or even Brown as leader.

[SolarCross]

No it doesn't Labour are the left wing party by definition. They may be right-wing relative to you, as the Tory party is left-wing relative to some people, but that's irrelevant. Right and left are always relative to time and place. Its the same when people complain about the Nazis being socialist. Maybe they were, but they were still the major right wing part in the last free elections of the Weimar Republic.

As to the leadership question, MPs should elect the leader, letting the membership decide, is just stupid. I've nothing against mandatory reselection. I've nothing against the membership radically changing the MPs, that's democracy, but electing Corbyn given the PLP at the time was a recipe for disaster. It would be just the same if the Labour MP's were 90% Corbynite and they had Blair or even Brown as leader.

I would say the Labour party was historically the party of the "working class" rather than the "left wing". "Left" and "working class" are not synonymous. It is not that ironic that it was middle class tofu-munching guardian-reading infiltrators that turned the party "left".

[JohnRawls]

I would say the Labour party was historically the party of the "working class" rather than the "left wing". "Left" and "working class" are not synonymous. It is not that ironic that it was middle class tofu-munching guardian-reading infiltrators that turned the party "left".

Guardian is not left wing. It is centre-left. That is why the Trots hate it. The Guardian ,for better or worse, is The Guardian.

Purge the SJW Trot out of Labour!!!

[SolarCross]

Guardian is not left wing. It is centre-left. That is why the Trots hate it. The Guardian ,for better or worse, is The Guardian.

Purge the SJW Trot out of Labour!!!

Whatever, they are not working class so they can fuck off out of the working class party. The prigs can get their own party. The Prig Party or something like that.