[BigSteve]

No I assert that he was claiming that American culture is superior to Somali culture.

It is. Ever been to Somalia? The phrase "shit hole third world country" is the only description which fits it. That's not racist. That's just a fact. Even Somalis think it's a shit hole...

I don't consider that racism. If it is then the word "racism" has been broken to point of being useless.

It really has. The idiots on the left have whined "racism" to the point where they've rendered it meaningless. It used to be a horrible thing to be called a racist. Now, nobody really gives a fuck, because the odds are good that the person whining "racist" is doing so simply because he has nothing intelligent to say...

It certainly means that you are more racist than Trump.

Most on the left, who whine "racism" at every turn, are more racist than Trump. They're more racist than Robert Byrd...

[SolarCross]

This seems more like a way of avoiding the accusation of racism than an actual argument with support.

Especially since you have no evidence.

The evidence:

Your opinion is irrelevant.

If you are too Admin Edit: Rule 2 Violation then don't dish it out.

[BigSteve]

The evidence:

Libs have no use for honesty or the truth. They think nothing of taking a quote out of context or, in this case, reqarding the quote to something they wish Trump had said. Trump never said they should go "back to where they came from". But idiot libs will do everything they can to make you believe he did.

They will obfuscate to the nth degree, and sometimes even resort to lying, if they think it'll help make their point...

[SolarCross]

It is. Ever been to Somalia? The phrase "shit hole third world country" is the only description which fits it. That's not racist. That's just a fact. Even Somalis think it's a shit hole...

Ilhan Omar herself has demonstrated her belief that the American culture is superior to Somali or else why did she migrate? She voted with her feet. She is literally a racist by that standard.

[Pants-of-dog]

The evidence:

No mention is made of culture, but national and ethnic origins are mentioned.

That supports my claim, not yours.

[SolarCross]

No mention is made of culture, but national and ethnic origins are mentioned.

That supports my claim, not yours.

You can't read; it only mentions "places".

[BigSteve]

No mention is made of culture, but national and ethnic origins are mentioned.

That supports my claim, not yours.

You sure do hate facts...

[Pants-of-dog]

You can't read; it only mentions "places".

And places means countries, not cultures. So he is discussing the ethnic and national origins of these congresspeople.

[SolarCross]

And places means countries, not cultures. So he is discussing the ethnic and national origins of these congresspeople.

Places means places.

[Prosthetic Conscience]

Trump's tweets and speeches have talked about "congresswomen" and "they". He is clearly attacking more than just Omar; and the context shows it's 4 non-white women, 3 of whom were born in the USA (and the other left Somalia aged 7, and has lived in the USA since 11; "places means places" would mean the USA, for all 4). That's why all observers (eg UK Tory politicians) know it's racially based. Chanting "Somalia" is just a desperate move to try and deflect from Trump's decades-old racism.

He's your hero; why not admit the truth, that you love a racist, and won't reject him whatever he does?

[SolarCross]

Trump's tweets and speeches have talked about "congresswomen" and "they". He is clearly attacking more than just Omar; and the context shows it's 4 non-white women, 3 of whom were born in the USA (and the other left Somalia aged 7, and has lived in the USA since 11; "places means places" would mean the USA, for all 4). That's why all observers (eg UK Tory politicians) know it's racially based. Chanting "Somalia" is just a desperate move to try and deflect from Trump's decades-old racism.

He's your hero; why not admit the truth, that you love a racist, and won't reject him whatever he does?

Racists interpret everything in racial terms. You are seeing just what you want to see.



MAGA means Make America Great Again. That says it all, he is all about optimism for the future. The congresswomen, like democrats in general, take a bitter and divisive self-hating spin on the US. They are harping on the past, a dark and distorted narrative of the past, instead of looking to a better future. They are negative where he is positive. In this way they act like enemy propagandists. They are in spirit like enemies of the US. Not because of their skin colour, or national origins, but because of their agenda and the content of their character.

[Pants-of-dog]

Places means places.

If places means places and not cultures, then you have just disproven your own argument.

So again we have no argument as to how these comments are not racist.

[SolarCross]

If places means places and not cultures, then you have just disproven your own argument.

So again we have no argument as to how these comments are not racist.

Places are not races.

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[Pants-of-dog]

Places are not races.

That is true, but it does not mean that Trump’s words were not racist, since racism is also used to attack people from another place.

Places are not cultures, so that disproves your argument.

...more personal attacks....

[SolarCross]

That is true, but it does not mean that Trump’s words were not racist, since racism is also used to attack people from another place.

Places are not cultures, so that disproves your argument.

He said the places had a lot of crime, what else is crime but a cultural failure?

So you have no evidence that "places" is racist? Why are you still crying racist?

[Pants-of-dog]

He said the places had a lot of crime, what else is crime but a cultural failure?

So you have no evidence that "places" is racist? Why are you still crying racist?

Again, please explain how this is not racist.

He was not making commentaries about relative crime levels. So the argument that he was doing so is not supported by the facts.

But yes, the US has a lot of crime.

[SolarCross]

Again, please explain how this is not racist.

He was not making commentaries about relative crime levels. So the argument that he was doing so is not supported by the facts.

But yes, the US has a lot of crime.

Places are not races. He literally said the places had problems with crime, so yeah that is literally a commentary on relative crime levels. Do you even read bro?

[Pants-of-dog]

Places are not races.

Yes, we discussed this twice, and we noticed that it disproved your claims about cultures, which is why you moved the goalposts to make it about relative crime levels.

He literally said the places had problems with crime, so yeah that is literally a commentary on relative crime levels.

No, using the word “crime” in passing is not a critical analysis of differing crime levels.

If he was going to make an intelligent analysis of crime rates between countries he would have researched this, and known that the congresspeople actually (mostly) came from the USA.

So, either he is being racist, or he is so stupid that he does not even know which countries he is using as a comparison.

[SolarCross]

@Pants-of-dog

Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it's done

This is the quote, maybe you should read it first.

[BigSteve]

This is the quote, maybe you should read it first.

Libs have no use for proper context, honesty or the truth. Their paper-thin arguments are rarely served by them...