[Politics_Observer]

I feel for CNN reporter Victor Blackwell. This is why it's so important to stand up to Trump and his racist bigotry:

[BigSteve]

Meh, fuck him. I can't imagine why anyone would give him an iota of sympathy. He's a whiny little bitch, just like every other buttmunch on CNN.

If someplace is crime infested, why is it wrong to say that? How is that possibly bad? If it's criume infested, fix it! Times Square used to be crime infested. It's a tourist destination now.

This talking head dipshit says "I lived there." Fair enough. But, did he want to live there? As a human being, did he want to live in such a crime infested slum? I've seen no evidence that he did, especially since it would appear as though he worked to get out of that district.

No, this idiot got out when he good, and good for him. But it's ignorant and stupid of him to ask us to believe he wanted to live there (which is what the President's tweet spoke of).

I laugh at his crying...

[Pants-of-dog]

I feel sympathy for people living in the USA.

It is crime ridden, has no health care, no parental leave, and huge levels of economic inequality. They should move to a developed and civilised country.

[Zionist Nationalist]

Fuck CNN its a fake news channel people who can think for themselves are not watching the mainstream media

I feel sympathy for people living in the USA.

It is crime ridden, has no health care, no parental leave, and huge levels of economic inequality. They should move to a developed and civilised country.

Yeah maybe they should move to Venezuela or Cuba
Free healthcare,huge parental leave,equal economy (everyone equally poor except the dear leader and his friends but that doesn't matter right?)

[Politics_Observer]

@BigSteve

Meh, fuck him. I can't imagine why anyone would give him an iota of sympathy. He's a whiny little bitch, just like every other buttmunch on CNN.

If someplace is crime infested, why is it wrong to say that? How is that possibly bad? If it's criume infested, fix it! Times Square used to be crime infested. It's a tourist destination now.

This talking head dipshit says "I lived there." Fair enough. But, did he want to live there? As a human being, did he want to live in such a crime infested slum? I've seen no evidence that he did, especially since it would appear as though he worked to get out of that district.

No, this idiot got out when he good, and good for him. But it's ignorant and stupid of him to ask us to believe he wanted to live there (which is what the President's tweet spoke of).

I laugh at his crying...

You're cruelty and lack of empathy towards others is unacceptable. Your comments towards this reporter is an example of why you are a racist bigot. You're really no different than the Nazis our troops fought against in World War II. That's exactly what you are Steve: a fascist Nazi. Your actions and words demonstrate that. That's why you are a loser.

@Pants-of-dog

I feel sympathy for people living in the USA.

It is crime ridden, has no health care, no parental leave, and huge levels of economic inequality. They should move to a developed and civilised country.

We don't need your crocodile tears over here Pants-of-Dog. The racism you see over in the US are in other countries too and is probably there in your country even if it does offer universal health care. Just because a country has a high standard of living, good quality of life and universal healthcare doesn't exempt it from the racism and bigotry that you see over here in the US or the same internal dangers that the US faces. Racism and bigotry is everywhere. It's not exclusively American. Nor are things like the Nazis coming to power in Germany exclusively a German phenomenon. What happened in Germany can happen anywhere.

[skinster]

I feel sympathy for people living in the USA.

It is crime ridden, has no health care, no parental leave, and huge levels of economic inequality. They should move to a developed and civilised country.

It's why I left. Most people are really, really fucked in America.

[Politics_Observer]

@skinster

It's why I left. Most people are really, really fucked in America.

We're not fucked over here. We have problems like everywhere else. The grass is not greener on the other side. I haven't seen a perfect place to live yet. That being said, despite the fact we have an asshole occupying the White House right now, I am still proud to be an American. It's my home, it's where I am from. You have assholes like Trump everywhere and some of them are unfortunately in power. But that's just life. Politically, the good guys on this side of the pond are doing all we can against the bad guys like Trump.

[skinster]

My point preceded Trump getting into office, Obama was as bad if not worse. America is a shithole for the working class, you all get bankrupt for basic rights like healthcare. Enjoy your weird pride for being shat out wherever your parents bothered to shit you out, and them theirs..etc. Pride comes before a fall and is also quite gay.

[Politics_Observer]

@skinster

My point preceded Trump getting into office, Obama was as bad if not worse. America is a shithole for the working class, you all get bankrupt for basic rights like healthcare. Enjoy your weird pride for being shat out wherever your parents bothered to shit you out, and them theirs..etc. Pride comes before a fall and is also quite gay.

If you think things were worse under Obama as opposed to Trump then that says it ALLL. YOU are the one who is weird and has a fucked up point of view, NOT ME. That tells me right there not to take you seriously.

[skinster]

It's the system, stupid. As if there's much difference between the Democrats and Republicans beyond a few social issues. Grow up.

[Politics_Observer]

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[blackjack21]

Blackwell is a cry baby. Trump is simply telling the truth about inner cities run by Democrats for generations.

We don't need your crocodile tears over here Pants-of-Dog. The racism you see over in the US are in other countries too and is probably there in your country even if it does offer universal health care. Just because a country has a high standard of living, good quality of life and universal healthcare doesn't exempt it from the racism and bigotry that you see over here in the US or the same internal dangers that the US faces. Racism and bigotry is everywhere. It's not exclusively American. Nor are things like the Nazis coming to power in Germany exclusively a German phenomenon. What happened in Germany can happen anywhere.

Pants-of-dog already fled his/her country to reside in Canada. Apparently, Augusto Pinochet wasn't his/her favorite, so s/he might already know a little something about democracies collapsing into dictatorship.

If you think things were worse under Obama as opposed to Trump then that says it ALLL.

What did you think was better about Obama, besides his suits and speeches. What policies did you prefer? Which Trump policies do you disagree with?

As if there's much difference between the Democrats and Republicans beyond a few social issues. Grow up.

That takes a bit of life experience for people to realize how the US establishment is run.

[Politics_Observer]

@blackjack21

Pants-of-dog already fled his/her country to reside in Canada. Apparently, Augusto Pinochet wasn't his/her favorite, so s/he might already know a little something about democracies collapsing into dictatorship.

We supported Pinochet overthrowing Chile's democratically elected government. Nixon authorized the CIA to support a military coup of Allende's government because he was a Marxist and because Nixon was afraid of that Allende would nationalize US copper interests in Chile. It was the classic of it was about money and power. We didn't have the right to do that. August Pinochet committed many crimes against his own people and was supported by us. It was also during a time of the Cold War between us and the Soviet Union and we were also afraid of Soviet influence in Chile. Pants-of-Dog probably did the right thing by fleeing given that he or she could have potentially been facing serious persecution by Pinochet and his military junta.

US involvement in Allende's downfall is widely known, but the extent of US aid to the coup plotters is not.

Chile was seen by the then president, Richard Nixon, and his secretary of state, Henry Kissinger, as a potential "second Cuba". They decided, in the words of one cabinet member, to "make the Chilean economy scream".

Strikes by lorry drivers financed by the US paralyzed distribution, ratcheted up the sense of chaos and forced Chileans to queue for petrol, food and medical treatment.

The released documents confirm that the US was providing weapons as well as funds to the saboteurs.

Some of them have been heavily censored, including those about the murder of Rene Schneider, the commander in chief of the Chilean army, which nevertheless confirm earlier evidence that the US aided his killers.

A CIA document from 1970 details the role of US intelligence officers in the killing of Schneider, who was regarded as a "stumbling block" in coup preparations. It reads: "Station met clandestinely evening 17 Oct with two Chilean Armed Forces officers... they asked that by evening 18 Oct Station arrange to furnish them with 8-10 tear gas grenades. Within 48 hours they need three .45 calibre machine guns (Grease Guns) with 500 rounds ammo each."

Schneider's son, Rene Jr, 57, said: "Obviously the truth ought to be out. We absolutely know the US government role in financing all that happened before the coup. Anything that brings us closer to the truth is healthy for the country, we still have lots of dark secrets."

US officials also revealed a secret intelligence-sharing operation which used Nazi groups throughout South America and Europe to track down enemies of the Chilean state.

The Latin-American German colony known as "La Dignidad", allowed "the Chilean Dina [secret police] to draw on their national and international contacts, and cooperates with Dina officials by turning over to them information on subversives in the area".

Friday's release of the documents led to renewed protests that the CIA had refused to follow the spirit of the presidential order.

"The US government is skewing this history," said Peter Kornbluh, an investigator for the non-profitmaking National Security Archives.

"They are not releasing the documents in an attempt to whitewash their own role in fomenting acts of violence in Chile."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/ ... chet.chile

Here is another quote from a source in regards to our support of the overthrow of Allende's government:

The purpose of this article is to analyze U.S. involvement in the military overthrow of Chile’s popularly elected president, Dr. Salvador Allende, by examining the aims, efforts, and results of U.S. involvement. America’s aims were to prevent Allende’s rise to power, destabilize his government, and secure the interests of U.S.-owned multinational corporations in Chile. Allende was an avowed Marxist, and his socialist policies conflicted with America’s national interests. U.S. policy makers perceived Allende’s victory as a threat to hemispheric unity and a diffusion of Marxist ideology, which would be a huge setback for America’s power in world politics. In addition, Allende threatened America’s economic interests by nationalizing foreign-owned industries and bringing them under state control.

https://wp.towson.edu/iajournal/journal ... volvement/

What did you think was better about Obama, besides his suits and speeches. What policies did you prefer? Which Trump policies do you disagree with?

Everything. The current good economy that Trump has been busy destroying with his trade wars was due to Obama's economic policies not Trump. Economic policies take time to be felt. Economic policies just don't instantly transform a bad economy one day to a stellar economy the next day just be instituting a policy the prior day.

See, it doesn't work that way. So, by the time Trump got elected, the policies of Obama was then beginning to be felt. So, people who give credit to Trump for the economy are really giving credit to Trump for the work of Obama but it's Obama who really deserves credit. It's just that rich white people didn't like Obama because they don't care about having a good economy. They already all the money they will ever need.

So, all the they care about is stuffing their pockets full of even more money even though they are already filthy rich and not having to pay any taxes at all. And if that means the US economy tanks then so be it because they will be well off regardless. Doesn't make any difference to them. All they care about is filling their pockets full of more money. Enough is never enough. That's the nature of greed. Here is an article to defend my position:

So while the White House can certainly point to some yardsticks that indicate a meaningful turnaround on Trump's watch — including small business sentiment, business investment and goods-producing job growth — broader measures of the overall job market and wages show the economy continues to follow the steady, upward glide path that began under Obama.

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/12/64670879 ... 4466827570

So Trump is essentially just taking credit for Obama's work and benefiting from it. Obama had to come in and bail out the US from the 2008 Financial collapse and the Bush administration policies certainly didn't help prior to the election of Obama.

References-

"US Foreign Policy and the 1973 Coup in Chile." E-International Relations, 12 Feb. 2016, http://www.e-ir.info/2016/02/12/us-fore ... -in-chile/. Accessed 30 July 2019.

Franklin, Jonathan. "Files Show Chilean Blood on US Hands." The Guardian, 11 Oct. 1999, http://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/o ... chet.chile. Accessed 30 July 2019.

Horsley, Scott. "FACT CHECK: Who Gets Credit For The Booming U.S. Economy?" NPR.org, 12 Sept. 2018, http://www.npr.org/2018/09/12/646708799 ... 4466827570. Accessed 30 July 2019.

Towson University Journal of International Affairs. "Overthrow of Allende: An Analysis of U.S. Involvement." Towson University Journal of International Affairs, 15 May 2018, wp.towson.edu/iajournal/journal-issues/issues-between-1970-1979/spring-1979/overthrow-of-allende-an-analysis-of-u-s-involvement/. Accessed 30 July 2019.

[blackjack21]

We supported Pinochet overthrowing Chile's democratically elected government. Nixon authorized the CIA to support a military coup of Allende's government because he was a Marxist and because Nixon was afraid of that Allende would nationalize US copper interests in Chile. It was the classic of it was about money and power. We didn't have the right to do that.

Allende did nationalize US copper interests and did not compensate them for it. Actions between states are about power, not about rights. The US absolutely had the power and the duty to protect the interests of its citizenry. Allende would have been fine had he just paid fair value for the mines. There is a big difference between nationalizing a private interest and paying fair market value for the eminent domain action and outright confiscating private property without just compensation.

August Pinochet committed many crimes against his own people and was supported by us.

Government operators are often protected by sovereign immunity. Why do you think Hillary Clinton, James Comey, et. al. haven't been prosecuted yet?

Pants-of-Dog probably did the right thing by fleeing given that he or she could have potentially been facing serious persecution by Pinochet and his military junta.

I'm sure @Godstud can attest that military governments will generally leave you alone unless you are stirring up shit.

The current good economy that Trump has been busy destroying with his trade wars was due to Obama's economic policies not Trump.

You mean the economy sucked for the entire 8 years Obama was president, he leaves office, and then things got better because of Obama? That's your sincere belief?

Economic policies take time to be felt.

Generally, not eight years.

Economic policies just don't instantly transform a bad economy one day to a stellar economy the next day just be instituting a policy the prior day.

I asked you which policies you prefer. Is there a specific act? A specific law? A specific policy?

It's just that rich white people didn't like Obama because they don't care about having a good economy. They already all the money they will ever need.

Obama was put in power by rich white people. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. Obama came to San Francisco twice a year on average, if not more. He spent almost all his time with very rich, very white people. He never went out to Bay View/Hunter's Point to address black people. He was not interested in them in the slightest.

So, all the they care about is stuffing their pockets full of even more money even though they are already filthy rich and not having to pay any taxes at all.

Who specifically do you think is not paying any taxes at all and why?

And if that means the US economy tanks then so be it because they will be well off regardless. Doesn't make any difference to them. All they care about is filling their pockets full of more money. Enough is never enough. That's the nature of greed.

Most people don't make money in bad economies.

So Trump is essentially just taking credit for Obama's work and benefiting from it.

These are talking points. You are not identifying which policies you support and why. Trump's deregulation efforts have a big impact on small business, which is where economies see most of their job growth.

Obama had to come in and bail out the US from the 2008 Financial collapse and the Bush administration policies certainly didn't help prior to the election of Obama.

Which policies do you think caused the 2008 financial collapse?

More to the topic, why do you think Victor Blackwell should have been sniveling about Trump's remark? What has Elijah Cummings done for his district that you think is so wonderful?

[BigSteve]

Where was this whiny bitch of a talking head when Elijah Cummings referred to his district as "drug infested"?

Is anyone on the left going to call Cummings a racist? Of course not, because they're hypocrites...

[BigSteve]

If you ever needed more obvious proof of the blatant hypocrisy of the left, you need look no further than Baltimore.

Trump called Baltimore "rat infested", and some idiot, left wing talking head, Victor Blackwell, got all emotional because Trump used the word "infested". Pussy damn near cried on the air.

But where was this same idiot, left wing talking head when none other than Elijah Cummings used the exact same word 20 years ago? What has Blackwell had to say now that the comments of Cummings have come to light?

Right. He's said nothing. He's said nothing because that's what he was told to do.

Hypocrites, one and all...

[Red_Army]

It is bullshit that guy didn't go back in time, I agree.

[BigSteve]

It is bullshit that guy didn't go back in time, I agree.

There's not a single reason, other than his hypocrisy, he couldn't have commented on what Cummings said 20 years ago...

[Pants-of-dog]

Pointing out hypocrisy is neither an argument nor a rebuttal.

Someone can be a hypocrite and still be correct.

[BigSteve]

Pointing out hypocrisy is neither an argument nor a rebuttal.

Someone can be a hypocrite and still be correct.

But if someone is a complete hypocrite then anything they have to say falls on deaf ears...