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Rancid wrote:This got me thinking. What is a better approach. Mutually Assured Destruction by giving everyone nukes, or working towards disarming everyone?
My feeling is the only solution that has a realistic chance would be the MAD policy. If we all know we can obliterate each other, we simply wouldn't bother to do so.
This is an open question to everyone, not just red_army
Drlee wrote:I am flabbergasted at the response by Europeans to this incident.
There is no denying that this general planned hundreds of attacks against American and Europeans not to mention other people in the region. No doubt whatsoever.
Zionist Nationalist wrote:They are not really allies more like partners and they will not fight for Iran especially Russia which will benefit from the skyrocketing prices of oil if a war will break
noemon wrote:Whatever the case, the US regime-changed Iran and set in motion the ground work for what Iran has currently become. Whatever Mossadegh, the Shah and the Mullahs do in their own country is up to the country to sort out and not up to foreigners.I at least partly dispute that. The people are basically no match to tyrants if they do not have some sort of foreign support (be it military, economic or even technological).
noemon wrote:Your people of Hong Kong are no match to China without foreign support you mean. And that is why your people were created by foreign support in the first place. The Iranians however do not share this history with you and have sufficient historical experience, culture and education to be a fundamentally democratic nation down to their ethnic-character. Something that becomes apparent with any first hand meeting with an Iranian. They extremes have taken over due to necessity and the danger of annihilation. The Chinese are not like that and neither are the Chinese people of Hong Kong either. Neither of you have had a democratic experience at any point in your history. Not even on local, religious, or any level. You have never chosen your leaders, nor have you ever mocked them, or made fun of them, very necessary ingredients for political self actualisation. The Iranians have a tradition in that though.
noemon wrote:bombing civilian airports in broad daylight
Ter wrote:The executed were very very bad people, terrorists of the worst kind.
noemon wrote: they were not killed because those who bombed thought they were "bad" but because it suited their interests. Their "bad" will be replaced by another "bad" as these are simply order takers and not policy makers, they were both soldiers.
noemon wrote:Broad daylight is a figure of speech that means doing something unashamedly without even trying to hide the fact and thus normalising it. It was not a road outside the airport but inside the airport. Ergo, the US bombed a civilian airport of an allied country in broad daylight. Statement of Fact.
The General of a sovereign nation is not a leader of a terrorist organisation but the Leader of a UN recognised country. That is actually bad.
noemon wrote:Blackjack21 yet again engaging in outright falsehoods and regime-change apologetics with unashamed obfuscation & creative trivia.
noemon wrote:By that logic Bill Clinton was being fought by the establishment too!!!
noemon wrote:To top it all off, he has also thrown severe insults against the administration(for no apparent reason) so he can assume victim posture just in case anyone calls his bullshit. Class!
Rugoz wrote:blackjack's "The Shah was not a dictator. He was a monarch." is hilarious though
noemon wrote:Whatever the case, the US regime-changed Iran and set in motion the ground work for what Iran has currently become.
noemon wrote:Whatever Mossadegh, the Shah and the Mullahs do in their own country is up to the country to sort out and not up to foreigners.
skinster wrote:Russia supports Iran just like it supported Syria while under the Zionist/Neocon/Wahabi war that's been ongoing on these independent states in the ME.
noemon wrote:And that is because your people were created by foreign support in the first place. The Iranians however do not share this history with you and have sufficient historical experience, culture and education to be a fundamentally democratic nation down to their ethnic-character.
noemon wrote:The extremes have taken over due to necessity, constant power vacuums and the danger of national annihilation.
noemon wrote: The Chinese are not like that and neither are the Chinese people of Hong Kong either. Neither of you have had a democratic experience at any point in your history.
Tainari88 wrote:Since the fall of the Shah in the fifties to now,
First, I'm making no apologies for the Shah whatsoever.
late wrote:You argued he had a right to rule, which means the democracy they had did not.
late wrote:Which is at least consistent with your defense of Trump.
The constitution gave him power over appointing and dismissing executive ministers and power over the military. He could introduce legislation--not pass it, but introduce it. The president of the United States can do the same thing. Constitutional monarchy doesn't create a separate strong executive as we have in the United States. It creates an executive from within the members of the parliament (Majlis in the case of Iran) with the consent of the Monarch.
Trump is not a monarch. He will be gone next January, or in January 2025.
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