skinster wrote:https://twitter.com/isgoodrum/status/1279200252268933121?s=20
This is a comment piece beating in the thin air. Those funds cannot explain sentiment from, say,
previous generation of my family, many of whom even had experience in CCP-funded or operated organisations.
As I can see, the second comment already calls this stupid article out:
Julia C. wrote:Is Alex Lo naive or an idiot ...or both ?
Every country supports and finances activities in another country if it is deemed in its national interest. The USA is just doing what any other country is doing including China.
China historically engaged in similar activities in Asia and Africa interfering and supporting regimes to its liking and destabilising those that it does not. Examples :
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Malaya and Indonesia communist insurgencies post WW ll.
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Interfere in Vietnam by supporting South North Vietnam (Note: She made a mistake in this post of hers)
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Interference in Laos and Cambodia. I
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Influencing regimes in Africa like Zimbabwe. Taking sides in the civil war in Sudan.
And then we have this:
Jason G wrote:The US doesn't have the power to create protests in HK. That was the people rising up
Navin R Johnson wrote:I never understood how the logistics of this works.
So just one march last year had 2 million people. Does the US just have people standing on the sidewalk giving out $1 to everyone as they walk by? It would have to be a lot of people doing this and no evidence at all. Do they get 2 million bank account numbers of Alipay info to transfer this money? And seems unlikely that people would brave the heat and congestion for only $1.
And what about the dozens of other protests. Was there funding for those as well? Did they pay $1 to each person in HK to vote overwhelmingly against pro-Beijing candidates? Is Alex suggesting HKongers are so mindless and easily swayed by foreign powers for $1?
Sometimes the simplest explanation is the most parsimonious. HKongers and Taiwanese genuinely don’t like CCP and USA has nothing to do with it.
Also:
Navin R Johnson wrote:The CCP has spent tremendous effort to stop their populace from doing critical thinking so I guess illogical conspiracy theories can make sense to some.
This is most true. At least one global (Global Times), one national (People's Daily) and three Hong Kong (Wen Hui, Ta Kung, Hong Kong Commerce) newspapers wouldn't have existed if they were not funded by the CCP.
China is behaving like a
violent immature brat, resorting to arbitrary persecution when they found themselves unable to persuade even their own people, and have to treat them like conquered foreigners.
The likes of Alex Lo, skinster and other "anti-imperialists" only see how "deceitful" Western governments are, but they are blind that CCP, and those Chinese foolish enough to believe their propaganda,
do not even reach that level.
IMHO this kind of argument would be proved
meaningful only if China had a regime change (for the better) but this
still continues. Although I don't really think this condition would happen anyways.
It all comes down to one thing: Many of the 2M protesters actually knew this but they still did it. Pro-China scums have to understand
why it is so and stop thinking the people simply being foolish and manipulated -- such kind of action only ever succeeded in pushing the people over to the other side.
After all, they had tried to manipulate us themselves, but why it didn't work until they actually threaten us with arbitrary prison terms?
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In comparison, Donald Trump is a very good example on how countries like the United States have such a good system that even dictator wannabes like him are restricted. He could only verbally bash Antifa but not much more. Russia is also superior in many senses, considering that they made a lot of illusions of grandeur to get more people support the constitution change. China does not even try to learn from
Putin.