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President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said Saturday that his French counterpart Emmanuel Macron needs “mental treatment” because of his hostility toward Islam.

“What is Macron’s problem with Islam and Muslims? He needs mental health treatment,” Erdoğan said at the ruling Justice and Development Party (AK Party) congress in central Kayseri province.

“What can be said to a head of state that treats millions of members of a religious minority in his country this way? First of all, (he needs) mental check,” Erdoğan added.

France recently launched an extensive witch hunt against the Muslim community following Macron calling Islam a problematic religion that needs to be contained. Many nongovernmental organizations and mosques have been shut down in the last two weeks, while assaults against Muslims have peaked.

In response, a French presidential official told Agence France-Presse (AFP) that Paris was recalling its envoy to Ankara for consultations. Ambassador Herve Magro would meet Macron to discuss the situation, the official said.

"President Erdoğan's comments are unacceptable. Excess and rudeness are not a method. We demand that Erdoğan change the course of his policy because it is dangerous in every respect," the official said.

The Elysee official, who asked not to be named, also said that France had noted "the absence of messages of condolence and support" from the Turkish president after the beheading of teacher Samuel Paty outside Paris. Paty was murdered after showing his class cartoons portraying Prophet Muhammad, which is regarded as highly offensive by Muslims.

The official also expressed concern over calls by Ankara for a boycott of French goods.

Macron this month described Islam as a religion "in crisis" worldwide and said the government would present a bill in December to strengthen a 1905 law that officially separated church and state in France. He announced stricter oversight of schooling and better control over foreign funding of mosques.

But the debate over the role of Islam in France has hit a new intensity after the beheading of Paty, which prosecutors say was carried out by an 18-year-old Chechen who had contact with a terrorist in Syria.

"You are constantly picking on Erdoğan. This will not earn you anything," said Erdoğan said other remarks.

"There will be elections (in France) ... We will see your (Macron's) fate. I don't think he has a long way to go. Why? He has not achieved anything for France and he should do for himself."

The two NATO allies are at loggerheads over a range of issues including maritime rights in the Eastern Mediterranean, Libya, Syria and the escalating conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan over occupied Nagorno-Karabakh.

Turkey is strongly backing Azerbaijan in the conflict but has denied allegations by Macron that Ankara has sent Syrian militia fighters to help Azerbaijan.

Erdoğan on Saturday accused France, which along with Russia and the United States co-chairs the Minsk Group tasked with resolving the conflict, of "being behind the disasters and the occupations in Azerbaijan."

He also repeated previous claims that France, which has a strong Armenian community, is arming Yerevan. "You think you will restore peace with the arms you are sending to Armenians. You cannot because you are not honest."

Erdoğan also accused the German police of “fascism” over the recent police raid on a Berlin mosque.

“European fascism reaches a new level with such attacks on their own citizens,” he said.

German police on Wednesday stormed the Mevlana Mosque and several other establishments in Berlin as part of an investigation into a coronavirus subsidy fraud, Turkey's German-language public broadcaster TRT Deutsch reported Thursday. Turkish officials strongly condemned the event, calling it an “ugly act,” disregarding the sanctity of a place of worship.
Source: https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/eu- ... -treatment


France recalls ambassador to Turkey after Erdoğan questions Macron's mental state

France said it would recall its envoy to Turkey for consultations following “unacceptable” comments by the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, that suggested his French counterpart, Emmanuel Macron, needed a mental health check-up.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... ntal-state

Clashes get fierce.
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Turkey is just angry that Macron finally did something good and called out Islamic extremism, which is something that Turkey stands by to an extent. Turkey wants to significantly impact European politics and religious demographics using their diaspora in Europe as well as migrants. Turkey has puppet parties in Europe after all. It seems like Macron is trying to take a bit of a stand.
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It is someone under Macron's jurisdiction being murdered, and Macron has every right to take any necessary measures.

Erdoğan is effectively advocating terrorism, and the OP, who often voices support of Erdoğan's aggressive policies and comments, is as wicked as China apologists and Stalinists.
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Ataur Rahman wrote:"Macron is one of the few leaders who worship Satan," senior Islami Andolan leader Ataur Rahman told protesters.

I disagree with this. He is NOT one of the few, he is one of the MANY.

This is because Satan vets the candidates before anyone gets to vote for them, and in the interim, Satanic media gets to spin all the other candidates as "anti-semitic" or "sleeping with the wrong bimbos."
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Macron is right of course and those "Mohamed caricatures" need to be plastered all over the place to denounce political Islam and Islamist terror. It won't do to give in to the terrorist.

Having said this, a more experience politician would have avoided a pissing match with Erdogan because to do so you invariably have to lower yourself to his level.

The Turkish Lira drops a bit more almost every day. It's just a matter of time before the economy tanks and Erdogan is chased away. With the dodgy business he and his family have been into, he probably has to go into exile. When that happens, he won't be welcome in France, so much is sure.
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This comments are a political circus.

The two countries fight for influence in Africa

The Turkish Lira drops a bit more almost every day. It's just a matter of time before the economy tanks and Erdogan is chased away. With the dodgy business he and his family have been into, he probably has to go into exile. When that happens, he won't be welcome in France, so much is sure.


The turks import to much. When the Lira falls they can not import more this goods.
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SaddamHuseinovic wrote:This comments are a political circus.

The two countries fight for influence in Africa



The turks import to much. When the Lira falls they can not import more this goods.


Well, it depends. The European part of Turkey will not be happy about it but there is more to Turkey then just the European part. Erdogan managed to drive the Lira in to the ground. From 1.3 in 2008 to like 8+ in 2020 for a USD. The average salaries obviously didn't manage to keep up.
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It takes a real classless loser of a leader to call other leaders names, or demean them(See Trump for another one). This isn't grade-school, but international politics.

Erdogan's just another asshole dictator. (I am not a politician, so I can call him what he is, sans diplomacy.)
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Erdogan is not a Dictator, rather an authoritarian democratic elected leader like Orban or Putin.

Demokrator


The fanatics hate Erdogan but the ordinary muslims admire him, he has an pan-islamic agenda.

Since the failed coup the west tries a financial coup, as far as I know the turks, they are ready to eat grass to bring back an islamic empire.
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SaddamHuseinovic wrote:The fanatics hate Erdogan but the ordinary muslims admire him, he has an pan-islamic agenda.


The pan-islamic agenda is one of his ambitions, his most pressing one is trying to top Kemal Ataturk and undo his legacy inside Turkey. To achieve this he needs war.
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noemon wrote:The pan-islamic agenda is one of his ambitions, his most pressing one is trying to top Kemal Ataturk and undo his legacy inside Turkey. To achieve this he needs war.

There are also Islamists who want Europe to fall to Islamic rule, which is a sentiment that many still have even though it dates back to the Middle Ages and the Crusades, and with the migrant flooding and other crap that Erdoğan pulls, I would say he is one of those people, so of course the west standing up for itself is something that he views with contempt. I have even seen the word "racist" being misused to shame Europe into giving in to Turkey 100%, with some on the far-left eating it up, not caring that they're being used as pawns for people who want a new caliphate.
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Erdogan is an Autocrat, exactly what Trump wants to be.

Erdogan's taken a pretty secular country and turned it into a near Autocratic theocracy. :(

It's a Democracy in the same way Russia's a Democracy.
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