[XogGyux]

The establishment lives in what sociologists call a total environment or total institution. They have been selecting the candidates themselves albeit subjecting them to primaries for decades. Reagan's rule was that Republicans should never criticize other Republicans. Trump threw that out the window, and it resonated with voters even though the establishment and media were trashing him the entire time. So Trump was the first person that wasn't a neoliberal/neoconservative to top a presidential ticket since Reagan.

Well, if Reagan said that, it was a stupid thing to say. Criticism and the actions the individual(s) take to address that criticism is what powers progress, character improvement, etc.

These AMA-type associations are just private corporations. We like our surgeons to be board certified, but can we always trust the board?

Nobody is advocating for blind trust on anything/anyone. Furthermore, a stamp of approval by x-society should not be the sole basis to accept a candidate. Take for instance Mathe Petersen

, he had the stamp of aproval by the society yet his confirmation went so fucking badly that the guy himself withdrew his nomination (credit to him, others didn't have the same degree of integrity). One society stamp of approval should not be either requirement, not sufficient to proceed with a nomination. Just because the ACP gave me a board certification it does not mean that I am ready to be the NIH or CDC director. On the other hand, if you cannot even muster your peers support/stamp of approval it should send some red flags about why this is the case. Maybe it is an innocent explanation, but you should check anyway. Trump is a repeated offender, it didn't seem that he cared he just wanted to get credit to nominate young conservative judges. That is certainly the wrong approach.

I haven't seen the Google or Apple ones, but Amazon clearly violated the terms of their own contract.

OK Mr lawyer, are you trying to make the case that you are qualified to be a Trump nominee.
Again, the only people that can/should give a fuck about this are the parler and amazons executives. They can take the case to court if they feel the contract was breached without the appropriate compensation. Breaking a contract is not a divine sin, contracts are broken all the time. If it was indeed broken, they can follow the guidelines established in the contract to settle the matter and/or they can go to court for compensation. As simple as that.

As you can probably guess, I don't really care about Parler as such. I'm just not a tweeter. I'm not that big into either reading or writing tweets. The issue is that they are trying to prevent people from leaving Twitter for Parler, which has some anti-competitive implications.

Well you clearly care. What you are saying does not make any sense what so ever.
Your point seems to be that for some reason Apple, Amazon trying to protect Twitter, a 40billion dollar company that has 300+ million active subscribers against a tiny 2.3 active subscriber parler company. And that somehow, the best plan they could come up with was to break contracts in the middle of a highly controversial scandal. Nonsense. For one, this only gives more publicity to the rather unknown site, and the only thing they have to do is find another host and/or get a few servers themselves.

It may appear that way to you. After all, my Myers-Briggs personality type is INTP. I think the effort to silence Trump and his supporters is real. I watched FoxNews last night before Tucker Carlson, and all of the regular commenters say that they think Trump committed an impeachable offense. In my view, this is just the establishment trying to legitimize another otherwise pointless impeachment to try to undermine Trumpism--that is, support for Trump and his ideas. Maybe they succeed at undermining support for Trump, but his ideas? I don't think so. I don't think there is going to be a sudden support for illegal immigration for example. I think many of these people are paid or are threatened to say what they say.

Now, that is an oxymoron. Trump ideas? HEHE
There are no trump ideas. The only thing Trump did was put a megaphone on stereotypes. Primitive pre-conception of OTHER people which he simply amplified to his base of ignorants. Trump is not a "V" character, he is not some sort of revolution that is bringing new ideas. Your suggestion cause me to chuckle.

This is why the establishment should try being introspective instead of hostile. They are not wildly popular, and don't seem to understand why. Hence, they need to break out of that total environment and actually meet real people.

Fuck off with the establishment nonsense. I don't believe a single letter that you write on this topic. You don't care about establishment, we had this discussion before. You support the same crap. Trump is not an anti-establishment candidate, his cabinet was not an anti-establishment cabinet, his endorsement to politicians were not to the anti-establishment candidates, his judge nominees are not anti-establishment judges, his policies are not anti-establishment. There is nothing anti-establishment from trump, NOTHING at all. Maybe you think being "anti-establishment" is edgy and cool or perhaps it is the conspiracist in you, the deep-state establishment is here to probe your rectum and steal your sheeps... either way, nonsense. Trump is not an anti-establishment figure.

[Rancid]

I don't know how many times he's said the word "establishment". That's his boogieman.

[Rancid]

There are reports coming in that more GOP reps want to support impeachment but they are genuinely scared for their lives.

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There are reports coming in that more GOP reps want to support impeachment but they are genuinely scared for their lives.

“Those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside”
JFK

[XogGyux]

“Those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside”
JFK

Interesting, Trump shares his orange hue and ferocious appetite with tigers, although possibly that's the end of the similarities .

[blackjack21]

These are the same people that believe a business owner should be able deny service to someone because they're gay or whatever else. Then they get angry when a business such as AWS decides to deny service to parler.

AWS is a publicly-traded company. Access to the public markets along with scale requires them by law to do business with the public generally. A sole-prop or small business is a different scale of entity, so freedom of association still applies in ways that it doesn't to large-scale organizations. Utilities, for example, cannot refuse to sell you gas and electricity, because they dislike you for some reason.

It will only take 51 votes to ban him from office.

It takes two thirds of the Senate to remove him from office on an impeachment. Why do you think it only takes 51 votes to ban someone from office?

However, the risk here is how many votes will Republicans lose?

Quite a few. Perhaps they'll just use it as a warning shot.

In my opinion it'd be Donald Jr.'s turn in 2024 anyway and Trumpism itself is meant to be disqualified here.

Yeah, Biden was pretty lackluster, so I don't think Trump at 78 is going to be quite as chipper.

The Lincoln Project types, however I don't believe that number is equal or bigger than the Trumptards they would be kicking out.

Yeah, but the Lincoln Project types are your typical political consultants and DC lawyers. They don't represent many people at all.

Well, if Reagan said that, it was a stupid thing to say. Criticism and the actions the individual(s) take to address that criticism is what powers progress, character improvement, etc.

Reagan was talking in the context of the Democrats not doing that to their front runners. That's why Jeb Bush was so shocked when Trump attacked George W. Bush's record.

OK Mr lawyer, are you trying to make the case that you are qualified to be a Trump nominee.

No. For a business degree, studying contract law is a requirement. They violated their own 30-day notice requirement, and that was for a material breach that goes uncured for 30 days. AWS cancelled without any material breach and without 30-day notice as required by the contract.

Again, the only people that can/should give a fuck about this are the parler and amazons executives.

Parler customers will be irritated by it too, because they were denied service because of AWS interference. Further, it will concern firms and individuals who, like Parler, are compliant with Amazon's terms of service, but who have coded their apps to Amazon's APIs directly and have no immediate alternative. That's why I say it's good for people like me, because open source solutions exist. That means that people who are worried that Amazon may simply cancel their service if Amazon executives don't like their views on things will start using open source solutions like OpenStack, OpenShift and the like to avoid proprietary lock ins and the vulnerability associated with these types of tactics. There is a risk of lock-in to proprietary services. So I think hybrid cloud becomes more imperative in the industry generally, which is good for me.

There is nothing anti-establishment from trump, NOTHING at all.

Trump is not a fan of globalism, free trade or open borders. So he is very much in opposition to the establishment on THOSE issues. Otherwise, you are absolutely correct that he's not otherwise anti-establishment; hence, why it is absurd to assert that he wants to be dictator for life and such nonsense.

There are reports coming in that more GOP reps want to support impeachment but they are genuinely scared for their lives.

Which means they know it's a career ender for them.

[Politics_Observer]

@blackjack21

We are not going to be intimidated by your white backlash blackjack. You are not going to "put us back in our place" with your white backlash (I am not black but I stand with my black brothers and sisters in their fight for racial equality and to be recognized as equal citizens). Our black brothers and sisters voted and their vote matters just as much as anybody else's. Your side lost the election so learn to accept defeat and learn to accept African Americans as equal citizens. This hasn't ended well for your side. Next time support candidates who who are not racist, who actually care about the country and are respectful of minority voters and your side might not find itself at such an election loss it is experiencing right now. It sucks to lose and to be a loser given the way your acting in the aftermath of defeat, doesn't it?

[Rancid]

AWS is a publicly-traded company. Access to the public markets along with scale requires them by law to do business with the public generally. A sole-prop or small business is a different scale of entity, so freedom of association still applies in ways that it doesn't to large-scale organizations. Utilities, for example, cannot refuse to sell you gas and electricity, because they dislike you for some reason.

Duck and dodge, change the rules to suite you, I get it. This is why it always ends in incoherence and contradiction for you.

It takes two thirds of the Senate to remove him from office on an impeachment. Why do you think it only takes 51 votes to ban someone from office?

2/3 to get him out of office. Then if they decide to vote to ban him, it's just 1/2 + 1. That was my understanding.

[blackjack21]

@blackjack21

We are not going to be intimidated by your white backlash blackjack. You are not going to "put us back in our place" with your white backlash (I am not black but I stand with my black brothers and sisters in their fight for racial equality and to be recognized as equal citizens). Our black brothers and sisters voted and their vote matters just as much as anybody else's. Your side lost the election so learn to accept defeat and learn to accept African Americans as equal citizens. This hasn't ended well for your side. Next time support candidates who who are not racist, who actually care about the country and are respectful of minority voters and your side might not find itself at such an election loss it is experiencing right now. It sucks to lose and to be a loser given the way your acting in the aftermath of defeat, doesn't it?

My vote has nothing to do with race. This is just pathetic virtue signaling on your part. How many times have you heard me tell people if you know black techies, send me their resumes and I'll run them up the flag pole and see that the right people can review them? I've hired a lesbian, multiple people from India, one from Hong Kong, one from China, plenty of women, etc. Trying to characterize people who like Trump as simply racist, sexist and homophobic is ludicrous. If my daily life were like that, that would be one thing. Yet, it's not and you still continue with this sort of rubbish.

I'm fine with how things are, because my goal is to be disruptive to neoliberals and neoconservatives until they reflect on the problems that their policies cause other people, whether it's having jobs outsourced, invading countries, or being subject to drone strikes or permanent surveillance. I think they lack any reflection, introspection, etc. So I simply do not support them anymore. If you want to be a part of that sort of thing, that's your choice. I choose not to support it politically anymore.

Duck and dodge, change the rules to suite you, I get it. This is why it always ends in incoherence and contradiction for you.

I don't make the rules. Congress does, and they have plenary authority to regulate interstate commerce. They treat small businesses of less than 50 people quite differently. Sole-props and small family-run firms are treated differently as well.

[Julian658]

@blackjack21

We are not going to be intimidated by your white backlash blackjack. You are not going to "put us back in our place" with your white backlash (I am not black but I stand with my black brothers and sisters in their fight for racial equality and to be recognized as equal citizens). Our black brothers and sisters voted and their vote matters just as much as anybody else's. Your side lost the election so learn to accept defeat and learn to accept African Americans as equal citizens. This hasn't ended well for your side. Next time support candidates who who are not racist, who actually care about the country and are respectful of minority voters and your side might not find itself at such an election loss it is experiencing right now. It sucks to lose and to be a loser given the way your acting in the aftermath of defeat, doesn't it?

This is the type of rhetoric that puts gasoline on a burning fire. It is best to tone it down and to not make everything about racial groups. This tribalism can precipitate violence.

[Julian658]

My vote has nothing to do with race. This is just pathetic virtue signaling on your part. How many times have you heard me tell people if you know black techies, send me their resumes and I'll run them up the flag pole and see that the right people can review them? I've hired a lesbian, multiple people from India, one from Hong Kong, one from China, plenty of women, etc. Trying to characterize people who like Trump as simply racist, sexist and homophobic is ludicrous. If my daily life were like that, that would be one thing. Yet, it's not and you still continue with this sort of rubbish.

The extreme left used to pit the proletariat against the employer to promote socialism. Now they pit ALL minorities (race identity politics) agains Europeans to promote the same extreme left ideology. However, it is possible that some people in the minority community, more so among blacks are only driven by racial group hate.

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This is the type of rhetoric that puts gasoline on a burning fire. It is best to tone it down and to not make everything about racial groups. This tribalism can precipitate violence.

A little late for that...

[XogGyux]

No. For a business degree, studying contract law is a requirement. They violated their own 30-day notice requirement, and that was for a material breach that goes uncured for 30 days. AWS cancelled without any material breach and without 30-day notice as required by the contract.

This is irrelevant. They can just settle the matter and/or seek damages on court and see if they get awarded anything for it. That's it. The rest of the noise, is just that, noise, because when they get people to like you railed up they get publicity and they want the publicity.
It is a bad bet anyways, even if parler could gain a bunch of users out of this, is not like corporate america is suddently going to move their advertisement machinery completely towards this fringe group of people. They are already fleeing political donations to certain republican/republican groups that supported opposing certification. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/11/busi ... itics.html Follow the money! People, companies don't want to be associated with this nonsense. This is toxic, and parler, a cluster of all these toxic fringe people, is unlikely to draw a shiton of business .

Parler customers will be irritated by it too

I'll shed a tear for them.

That means that people who are worried that Amazon may simply cancel their service if Amazon executives don't like their views on things will start using open source solutions like OpenStack, OpenShift and the like to avoid proprietary lock ins and the vulnerability associated with these types of tactics. There is a risk of lock-in to proprietary services. So I think hybrid cloud becomes more imperative in the industry generally, which is good for me.

Nobody is stopping you.
You think I'll be feeling sorry for Amazon?. Innocent creature.

Trump is not a fan of globalism, free trade or open borders. So he is very much in opposition to the establishment on THOSE issues. Otherwise, you are absolutely correct that he's not otherwise anti-establishment; hence, why it is absurd to assert that he wants to be dictator for life and such nonsense.

LOL.
Trump has no ideology. He would say whatever he thinks benefits him in the moment and that is the end of his political strategy, thats it. One day he is for better health care for american, the next day down with Obama care, one day he says wear mask, the next he mocks them. He is not an ideologue, he is simply a megaphone, an echo chamber of the most superfluous of republican stereotypes.

[Politics_Observer]

@Julian658 @blackjack21

Ohh please stop trying to draw some kind of false moral equivalence or ask us to put unity over justice. At the end of the day, you can't have unity unless you have justice first. You are asking us to forget justice and let injustice continue simply for the sake of unity. Not going to happen. We need justice first for our black brothers and sisters and we need to make sure that this white rage backlash doesn't intimidate or scare anybody. We are not afraid and stand ready to fight for the rights of our fellow citizens against this white backlash. For far too long this country has sought to deny equal rights to our black brothers and sisters and now that the embodiment of white supremacy, namely Donald Trump, has lost an election, white seek to try to intimidate and put others "back in their place." Not going to happen. We stand ready to fight back and to fight for our rights as equal citizens.

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@Julian658 @blackjack21

Ohh please stop trying to draw some kind of false moral equivalence or ask us to put unity over justice. At the end of the day, you can't have unity unless you have justice first. You are asking us to forget justice and let injustice continue simply for the sake of unity. Not going to happen. We need justice first for our black brothers and sisters and we need to make sure that this white rage backlash doesn't intimidate or scare anybody. We are not afraid and stand ready to fight for the rights of our fellow citizens against this white backlash. For far too long this country has sought to deny equal rights to our black brothers and sisters and now that the embodiment of white supremacy, namely Donald Trump, has lost an election, white seek to try to intimidate and put others "back in their place." Not going to happen. We stand ready to fight back and to fight for our rights as equal citizens.

When they say unity, they mean impunity. Law and tradition apply to others, not them.

The Cult needs to learn a lesson, one way or the other. I'm not fussy about which way..

[Julian658]

@Julian658 @blackjack21

Ohh please stop trying to draw some kind of false moral equivalence or ask us to put unity over justice. At the end of the day, you can't have unity unless you have justice first. You are asking us to forget justice and let injustice continue simply for the sake of unity. Not going to happen. We need justice first for our black brothers and sisters and we need to make sure that this white rage backlash doesn't intimidate or scare anybody. We are not afraid and stand ready to fight for the rights of our fellow citizens against this white backlash.

Poor unemployed white rednecks in the heartland of America do not even crack the top 100 regarding the injustices done to black Americans. However, for those that love virtue signaling or have white guilt like you they are the number one evil. Those poor bastards have no power. All they can do is dress as Vikings and confederate soldiers and run around with Trump flags. That is all they can do. They have no economical power. Squashing them will not solve the issues of black America.

The institution that destroyed black America is the Democratic Party. And the elite of the party continue to destroy black America to this day.

[Politics_Observer]

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When they say unity, they mean impunity. Law and tradition apply to others, not them.

That's right. You hit the nail on the head there. They think they are better than other people. They think they are above the law and rules don't apply to them.

[XogGyux]

@Julian658 @blackjack21

Ohh please stop trying to draw some kind of false moral equivalence or ask us to put unity over justice. At the end of the day, you can't have unity unless you have justice first. You are asking us to forget justice and let injustice continue simply for the sake of unity. Not going to happen. We need justice first for our black brothers and sisters and we need to make sure that this white rage backlash doesn't intimidate or scare anybody. We are not afraid and stand ready to fight for the rights of our fellow citizens against this white backlash. For far too long this country has sought to deny equal rights to our black brothers and sisters and now that the embodiment of white supremacy, namely Donald Trump, has lost an election, white seek to try to intimidate and put others "back in their place." Not going to happen. We stand ready to fight back and to fight for our rights as equal citizens.

Exactly, imagine if we could go around shooting people on the face and then when caught ask for unity and understanding . Unity, screams the guy wearing the Auschwitz shirt, swastika tattoo, and KKK hood.
Have unity with your cellmate pal.

[Rancid]

If we are nation of laws, justice has to happen before unity and healing can really start.

[Julian658]

A little late for that...

Someone wants blood!
Those rednecks are not the problem of black America. They have no money, power, and quite often they are as poor as other minorities.