[ckaihatsu]

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Psssssst - you democrats are really looking like shit on this one. Good job!![/size]

Now I don't have to read the *comics* today because of your addiction to clownish political memes.


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(Disclaimer: Not a Democrat. Just platforming.)


Anatomy of a Platform

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[Politics_Observer]

@BlutoSays

@BlutoSays

First off you haven't "cited" anything at all in your first initial and original post. Second, even if you did, your website link is not an authoritative source so you really couldn't use it for purposes in citation anyway. Third, do you have any evidence from an authoritative source that proves your assertion that these migrants, which the governors willing bused to blue states using taxpayer money, were actually in the country illegally?

I mean, if they weren't legally in the country to begin with, then the governors could be breaking the law by spending taxpayer money busing those migrants because they were not even in the country legally in the first place. He would be using taxpayer money to facilitate illegal immigration.

This sounds like it could be a crime if those migrants were not in the country legally. But I think those migrants were here legally. Which then brings the question back to why would you refer to them as "illegal" if indeed they were here legally in the first place?

[XogGyux]

Yeah, fucking nonsense.


Psaki Confirms Illegal Immigrants Being Flown to New York in Dead of Night
Brittany Bernstein, October 19, 2021

White House press secretary Jen Psaki on Tuesday confirmed reporting by the New York Post that the Biden administration has been quietly flying underage illegal immigrants from the border to New York in the dead of night.

During a press briefing, a reporter asked why the administration is “flying thousands of migrants from the border to Florida and New York in the middle of the night.”

“Well I’m not sure it’s in the middle of the night but let me tell you what’s happening here. It is our —” Psaki said, before the reporter interrupted with various “very early” morning times that flights have taken place.

More: https://news.yahoo.com/psaki-confirms-i ... 39952.html

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Mastriano provides update on illegals sent to Pennsylvania

Posted on Jan 13, 2022

HARRISBURG – Senator Doug Mastriano (PA-33) has looked further into the issue of the Biden Administration sending illegal immigrants to Pennsylvania shortly after their apprehension at the southern border.

The “ghost” flights in the middle of the night to Lehigh Valley last month are far from the only transit flights that ICE has sent to PA this year.

According to the U.S Department of Homeland Security, ICE conducted over 900 domestic flights of illegal immigrants around the U.S in 2021. One of the destination cities was identified as Harrisburg, PA. ICE also conducted at least 11 “transfer” flights into Philadelphia. It’s unknown how many passengers were on each flight and the final destination for each passenger.

DHS has also issued “Notices to Appear” in court for over 250 illegal immigrants released in the Philadelphia area.

Additionally, according to a forthcoming report from the DHS Office of Inspector General (OIG), ICE has failed to ensure migrants are tested for COVID-19 before transport on flights and has not maintained records for the illegals who are transported.

“I think these findings are just the tip of the iceberg,” said Senator Mastriano. “We need to further examine the total number of illegal immigrants being sent to PA by plane and bus. We also need to look at how much this is costing taxpayers and if Governor Wolf and Attorney General Shapiro were notified of the flights beforehand. Did they decline to inform the public?”

Senator Mastriano is a co-sponsor of legislation by Senator Mario Scavello that will initiate a program to send newly arriving illegal immigrants to the state of Delaware.

The below findings emanate from a DHS response to inquiries from U.S Senator Ron Johnson.

ICE Air Operations, Domestic Transfers and Flights FY 2021:
Domestic Transfer Flights 938
Non-citizens Transferred 51,750

FY 2021 ICE Air Operations, Cities Transited:
Abilene, TX Las Vegas, NV
Albuquerque, NM Del Rio, TX
Alexandria, LA Mesa, AZ
Birmingham Miami, FL
Brownsville, TX Minneapolis, MN
Buffalo, NY Newark, NJ
Columbus, GA Omaha, NE
Dallas, TX Portland, OR
El Paso, TX Richmond, VA
Gary, IN San Antonio, TX
Harrisburg, PA San Diego, CA
Houston, TX Toledo, OH
Jacksonville, FL Tucson, AZ
Kansas City, MO Victorville, CA
Laredo, TX Wichita, KS

FY 2021 ICE Domestic Transfer Flights:
Atlanta 55
Baltimore 37
Boston 11
Buffalo 11
Chicago 27
Dallas 43
Denver 36
Detroit 35
El Paso 20
Houston 5
Los Angeles 132
Miami 35
New Orleans 4
New York 17
Newark 87
Philadelphia 11
Phoenix 23
Salt Lake City 18
San Antonio 44
San Diego 28
San Francisco 165
Seattle 55
St. Paul 20
Washington 18
Grand Total 915

Notice to Appear (NTAs) Issued by AOR, Releases Between March 21, 2021 and August 31, 2021:
Atlanta 707
Baltimore 68
Boston 1,177
Buffalo 63
Chicago 1,164
Dallas 950
Denver 379
Detroit 203
El Paso 20
Harlingen 7
Houston 195
Los Angeles 986
Miami 460
New Jersey 2,450
New Orleans 860
New York City 2,613
Philadelphia 254
Phoenix 59
Seattle 365
San Francisco 447
Salt Lake City 405
San Antonio 718
San Diego 113
St. Paul 447
Washington 1,203
Grand Total 16,293

https://senatormastriano.com/2022/01/13 ... nsylvania/

What is your point bro? You wasting taxpayer $$ and taking seats on flights for nonsense. Wait until Tucker Carlson finds out someone is wasting taxpayer money to take plane tickets away from hard working Americans that need to travel amidst constant flight cancellations and delays... You cannot make this shit up, retardicans are foking caricatures.

[ckaihatsu]

Did the plane fare buy you right-wingers a Cold War p.r. *victory*, since the immigrants are *Venezuelan* -- ?

*Here's* how to handle a *coup*:

2019 Venezuelan uprising attempt

Maduro expelled 54 members from the military and the head of intelligence who publicly backed Guaidó.[10] Regional and international media concluded that the uprising had failed, with CNN reporting that it "faltered, having apparently failed to gain the support of senior members of the Venezuelan military".[11][12][13] Guaidó also acknowledged he had received insufficient military support[14] and stated that protests would be held every day until Maduro stepped down from power.[15] Guaidó called for his supporters and the country's armed forces to take to the streets again the following day.[5]

As of 2 May, four people were killed in the ensuing clashes between opposition protesters and militants on one side, and pro-government protesters and the Venezuelan armed forces on the other.[4] Some National Assembly members had their immunity lifted and were indicted afterwards; several of those indicted, and those who were not went into hiding.[16][17] Additionally, the National Assembly vice-president Edgar Zambrano was later arrested.[18][19]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Vene ... ng_attempt

[Rich]

HE sounds like a Marxist.

I could be wrong but I think you'll find that @ckaihatsu is an unorthodox Trotskyist. Trotsky unlike Lenin believed that in 1917 the Bolsheviks led the creation of a dictatorship of the proletariat. This was different from Lenin's view that they had created a revolutionary democratic dictatorship of the proletariat and peasantry. Both Lenin and Trotsky came to believe that the state had suffered bureaucratic deformation.

Really you can't make this stuff up. Lenin placed the struggle against bureaucratisation and the empowerment of ordinary people in the hands of Stalin and his workers and peasants inspectorate. Trotsky came to see the bureaucratisation of the proletariat's immaculate dictatorship somewhat later than Lenin, strangely it was coincident with his loss of power. Even after being expelled from the Soviet Union, Trotsky continued to support Soviet expansionism. Along with the mainstream communists he denounced Britain and France's 1939 war against Stalin's ally Adolph Hitler, but supported the occupation of Eastern Poland and the invasion of Finland.

Unorthodox Trotskyist continue to believe in the fantasy that this totalitarian police state was a worker's state up to 1928, but that it became state capitalist in 1929.

[SpecialOlympian]

It owns that Blutosays is such a massively stupid racist that he made an OP laughing at migrants being flown to random blue states with no coordination for their care to punish liberals. He views it as a story where a Republican governor is, metaphorically, emptying his garbage can on the lawn of a blue state.

BlutoSays thinks that owns. That is how he views economic refugees who break the law to work the shittiest jobs America has to offer for below an outdated Federal Minimum Wage: as objects that can be used to own the libs. He just doesn't view them as human, and thinks their existence is an inconvenience that can be passed off to someone else and that this is an own becuase the other party will be forced to, I dunno, not murder them or something?

Lol you are such a massive piece of shit, Blutosays.

[Fasces]

I'm a fiscal conservative.

I spent $12,000,000.00 of Floridian taxpayer money to charter private flights and traffic children from Texas to Massachusettes.

This makes sense.

[SpecialOlympian]

You can't put a price on owning the libs, Fasces.

[Potemkin]

I could be wrong but I think you'll find that @ckaihatsu is an unorthodox Trotskyist. Trotsky unlike Lenin believed that in 1917 the Bolsheviks led the creation of a dictatorship of the proletariat. This was different from Lenin's view that they had created a revolutionary democratic dictatorship of the proletariat and peasantry. Both Lenin and Trotsky came to believe that the state had suffered bureaucratic deformation.

Really you can't make this stuff up. Lenin placed the struggle against bureaucratisation and the empowerment of ordinary people in the hands of Stalin and his workers and peasants inspectorate. Trotsky came to see the bureaucratisation of the proletariat's immaculate dictatorship somewhat later than Lenin, strangely it was coincident with his loss of power. Even after being expelled from the Soviet Union, Trotsky continued to support Soviet expansionism. Along with the mainstream communists he denounced Britain and France's 1939 war against Stalin's ally Adolph Hitler, but supported the occupation of Eastern Poland and the invasion of Finland.

Unorthodox Trotskyist continue to believe in the fantasy that this totalitarian police state was a worker's state up to 1928, but that it became state capitalist in 1929.

Precisely. In fact, Lenin explicitly stated multiple times from the October Revolution until his death that he had in fact, and physically could only, set up a system of state capitalism. State socialism was the next step on the road to a communist society, of course, but one step at a time comrades. What was the NEP - which Lenin himself set up - but state-managed capitalism? It was Stalin who ended the state capitalist phase of Soviet history - his case for doing so being bolstered by the ‘scissors crisis’ of the NEP - and instituted state socialism through forced industrialisation and Five Year Plans. The exact opposite of what the western Trotskyists claim happened. And how can you have state socialism and a planned economy without a massive bureaucracy to run it all? The time to dispense with the bureaucracy is when you enter the sun-lit uplands of communism. But not while Hitler is chomping on the bit to invade you, and not while the western imperialists (who, let’s not forget, had tried to strangle the October Revolution in its cradle) are trying to encourage him to gobble you up instead of them. Thank God that Stalin had a functioning brain.

[ckaihatsu]

Lenin placed the struggle [...] in the hands of Stalin

Bullshit:

The Left Opposition was a faction within the Russian Communist Party (b) from 1923 to 1927[1] headed de facto by Leon Trotsky. The Left Opposition formed as part of the power struggle within the party leadership that began with the Soviet founder Vladimir Lenin's illness and intensified with his death in January 1924. Originally, the battle lines were drawn between Trotsky and his supporters who signed The Declaration of 46 in October 1923 on the one hand and a triumvirate (also known by its Russian name troika) of Comintern chairman Grigory Zinoviev, Communist Party General Secretary Joseph Stalin and Politburo chairman Lev Kamenev on the other hand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Opposition

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Trotsky continued to support Soviet expansionism. Along with the mainstream communists he denounced Britain and France's 1939 war against Stalin's ally Adolph Hitler, but supported the occupation of Eastern Poland and the invasion of Finland.

Source -- ?

[Potemkin]

The Left Opposition? What was the policy platform of the Left Opposition, @ckaihatsu? And in what way did it differ from what later became known as ‘Stalinism’?

[ckaihatsu]

The Left Opposition? What was the policy platform of the Left Opposition, @ckaihatsu? And in what way did it differ from what later became known as ‘Stalinism’?

Next paragraph:

The Left Opposition argued that the New Economic Policy had weakened the Soviet Union by allowing the private sector to achieve an increasingly important position in the Soviet economy while in their opinion, the centrally planned, socialised sector of the economy languished (including the mostly state-run heavy industries which were seen as essential not only for continued industrialisation but also defence). The platform called for the state to adopt a programme for mass industrialisation and to encourage the mechanization and collectivisation of agriculture, thereby developing the means of production and helping the Soviet Union move towards parity with Western capitalist countries, which would also increase the proportion of the economy which was part of the socialised sector of the economy and definitively shift the Soviet Union towards a socialist mode of production.[2]

[Potemkin]

Next paragraph:

The Left Opposition argued that the New Economic Policy had weakened the Soviet Union by allowing the private sector to achieve an increasingly important position in the Soviet economy while in their opinion, the centrally planned, socialised sector of the economy languished (including the mostly state-run heavy industries which were seen as essential not only for continued industrialisation but also defence). The platform called for the state to adopt a programme for mass industrialisation and to encourage the mechanization and collectivisation of agriculture, thereby developing the means of production and helping the Soviet Union move towards parity with Western capitalist countries, which would also increase the proportion of the economy which was part of the socialised sector of the economy and definitively shift the Soviet Union towards a socialist mode of production.[2]

In other words, Stalinism.

[ckaihatsu]

In other words, Stalinism.

Well, maybe the question there is how much would the LO have contributed to the *self-organization* of the workers.

*Personally* I find the whole thing to be basically *moot*, since the country *had* to industrialize, as a *priority* -- the clock was ticking.

The country at that point was a semi-*colony*, though not exactly colo-*nized*.

I have a treatment / framework here, for this kind of thing:


Political Spectrum, Simplified UPDATE

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Political Spectrum, Simplified

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[Potemkin]

Well, maybe the question there is how much would the LO have contributed to the *self-organization* of the workers.

*Personally* I find the whole thing to be basically *moot*, since the country *had* to industrialize, as a *priority* -- the clock was ticking.

The country at that point was a semi-*colony*, though not exactly colo-*nized*.

I have a treatment / framework here, for this kind of thing:


Political Spectrum, Simplified UPDATE

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Political Spectrum, Simplified

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In other words, you are accepting the correctness of Stalin's policy platform of the 1930s, which he copied almost word for word from the policy platform of the Left Opposition of the 1920s. Trotsky was calling for Stalinism before even Stalin was calling for Stalinism. Because it was really the Soviet Union's only realistic option.

[ckaihatsu]

In other words, you are accepting the correctness of Stalin's policy platform of the 1930s, which he copied almost word for word from the policy platform of the Left Opposition of the 1920s. Trotsky was calling for Stalinism before even Stalin was calling for Stalinism. Because it was really the Soviet Union's only realistic option.

Here's the thing, though -- such steps towards industrialization were for the sake of the nascent *nation* by that point, within the larger Western international-bourgeois *geopolitical* context. Such industrialization (a materially necessary societal 'upgrade') was *not* for the sake of the country's *working class*, nor was the working class there in *control* of that process, either. So the emergent Stalinism was not in the working class' *class interest*.

[late]

It turns out there is a Federal law prohibiting what DeSantis did. It's Kidnapping by Inveiglement. When he used deception to move people across state lines, he violated Federal law.

The Immigration and Nationality Act forbids “transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise.”
https://www.mvtimes.com/2022/09/15/atto ... kidnapped/

Justice is quite busy with other subhumans, at the moment, but here's hoping they can squeeze him in.

[ckaihatsu]

History, Macro-Micro -- Political (Cognitive) Dissonance

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[XogGyux]

It turns out there is a Federal law prohibiting what DeSantis did. It's Kidnapping by Inveiglement. When he used deception to move people across state lines, he violated Federal law.

The Immigration and Nationality Act forbids “transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise.”
https://www.mvtimes.com/2022/09/15/atto ... kidnapped/

Justice is quite busy with other subhumans, at the moment, but here's hoping they can squeeze him in.

These people ever hardly suffer consequences.

[ckaihatsu]

These people ever hardly suffer consequences.

Dancing between the raindrops, XG -- ?