[QatzelOk]

This thread needs to be moved to conspiracy theories

Pfizer has been saying this since the thread was created.

An entire industry has sprung up for "correcting social media journalism" and bringing the world back to the Pfizer-sponsored reality of network news.

Pfizer is saving lives and so is the IDF.

[late]

Pfizer has been saying this since the thread was created.

An entire industry has sprung up for "correcting social media journalism" and bringing the world back to the Pfizer-sponsored reality of network news.

Pfizer is saving lives and so is the IDF.

That chip on your shoulder is bigger than some of the Himalayas..

But, looking at the bright side, at least the nuts have come up with someone new to blame.

[QatzelOk]

Creating the special category of "Conspiracy Theory" allowed the Liberals to restrict free speech without the open book burning that the Nazis took part in.

Exactly, Rich.

We live in a competitive capitalist world where almost all strategy is made behind closed doors speaking with people who are sworn to professional secrecy.

to conspire:

1. to agree together, esp. secretly, to do something wrong, evil, or illegal: [no object; (~ + against + object)]They were conspiring against me.[~ + to + verb (+ object)]conspiring to overthrow the government.

2. to act or work together toward the same goal: [~ + to + verb]A number of events conspired to keep me from finishing the assignment.[~ + against + object]These events conspired against my finishing on time.

And yet we idiot sheep are told that "conspiracies" are somehow not a thing. And yet, under capitalism, they're everything.

Add to our capitalist conspiring... the fact that our commercial media is controlled by the same commercial conspirers... and that this same media is constantly shaming "conspiracy theories"... and you can understand how totalitarianism leads to a grotesquely ill-informed population that cannot participate in any kind of democracy.

Also, the rich can do whatever they like to everyone if everyone thinks that there are no conspiracies. They can even present very fake reasons to inject everyone with an experimental substance....


This substance is safe and effective!
Saddam has WMDs!
Qaddafi is killing the students!
Assad uses chemical weapons all the time!
Light cigarettes are good for your health!
Electric cars will save the environment!

Please believe all of these so the rich can make more easy money.

[ingliz]

Light cigarettes are good for your health!

And bad for your wallet.

Before all this 'We know what's best for you' kerfuffle led to their demise, I used to smoke Capstan Full Strength.



As a nicotine addict, I crave the drug (3.39 mg/cigarette), not a substitute nipple.

[QatzelOk]

And bad for your wallet.

Before all this 'We know what's best for you' kerfuffle led to their demise, I used to smoke Capstan Full Strength.



As a nicotine addict, I crave the drug (3.39 mg/cigarette), not a substitute nipple.

Yes, advertising and social pressure caused by it... can encourage us to consume poisonous substances, can't they?

Watching commercial media - if it leads one to smoke cigarettes - can remove a decade from your life and harm your health for the rest of your life.

But cigarettes are "freedom and independence" in their advertising campaigns, not cancer-causing addictions.

Billions of people have been encouraged to consume toxins by advertising.

[KurtFF8]

Admin edit: Rule 16 Violation

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/06/video ... cy-theory/

in a widely shared video misleadingly presented as testimony to the European Parliament, David Martin, a financial analyst, cited unrelated patents and distorted early research on coronaviruses to falsely suggest that scientists in the U.S. created the viruses that cause SARS and COVID-19 as part of a plot to drive vaccine profits.

“Ladies and gentlemen, this was premeditated domestic terrorism,” he said of the COVID-19 pandemic (mark 19:22). “This is an act of biological and chemical warfare perpetrated on the human race. … [T]his was a financial heist and a financial fraud,” he added — a quote that was later shared in a Twitter post that has been retweeted more than 75,000 times.

Except Martin’s entire argument is bunk. Dr. Susan R. Weiss, a coronavirus researcher at the University of Pennsylvania, told us in a phone interview that his statements are full of inaccuracies and completely distort past coronavirus research.

“There is no basis for any of this,” she said. “It makes no scientific sense.”

Martin has pushed several conspiracy theories about the pandemic. In 2020, he was a central figure in the second “Plandemic” video, which also falsely claimed that the pandemic was planned, as we’ve written.

Not European Parliament Testimony

Part of the appeal of Martin’s video — and lending false legitimacy to his claims — is that at first glance, it appears he is speaking in front of the European Parliament and giving official testimony.

“[C]ant believe my ears, what is being said at the europian union,” a Facebook user said, sharing the video, which shows Martin next to a European Parliament flag in what might look to someone like the European Parliament Hemicycle.

“Must watch: This is the opening presentation by Dr David Martin on the origins of Covid in 1965 & Covid Vaccines in 1990!” a Twitter user wrote. “He speaks in front of the European Parliament International Covid Summit III in Brussels on May 3, 2023. Hear and be shocked..!”

In reality, only five of the 705 members of the European Parliament participated in the event, which took place in a room of the parliament’s building in Brussels, as part of a three-day meeting organized by COVID-19 skeptics and anti-vaccination activists. The five Parliament members have participated in actions opposing COVID-19 vaccines.

Natalie Kontoulis, a press officer for the European Parliament, told us in an email that the meeting “was not an official European Parliament event.” She added, “Members of the Parliament can exercise their mandate freely and bear responsibility for both their activities and their content.”

According to the event’s website, the speaker line-up included some prominent COVID-19 misinformation spreaders, including Dr. Robert Malone, Dr. Pierre Kory, and Dr. Ryan Cole. The event content was turned into a book called “ICS 3 – The Whole Truth” and commercialized — a paperback copy sells for $29.99.

[QatzelOk]

...Dr. Susan R. Weiss, a coronavirus researcher at the University of Pennsylvania, told us in a phone interview that his statements are full of inaccuracies and completely distort past coronavirus research.

“There is no basis for any of this,” she said. “It makes no scientific sense.”...

If Susan R. Weiss says "this doesn't make sense," then I have to believe her. Why would she ever lie? People only lie when they're social media radicals, not when they're successful commercial-media-sources like she is.

[KurtFF8]

If Susan R. Weiss says "this doesn't make sense," then I have to believe her. Why would she ever lie? People only lie when they're social media radicals, not when they're successful commercial-media-sources like she is.

As you literally promote the false claims of a financial analyst pushing conspiracy theories.

[QatzelOk]

As you literally promote the false claims of a financial analyst pushing conspiracy theories.

Whether Susan Weiss's or "a financial analyst" are true or false is not the point. We can't know the history of every opinion-sharing person.

The point is that "ONLY" pro-vaccination voices, pro-mask voices, pro-lockdown voices... were permitted in commercial media, thus closing down freedom of speech and debate.

When will commercial media close down freedom-of-speech and debate next? Over what subject that they need to control the narrative of?

And the docile people of most Western countries just rolled up their sleeves, put on masks, and presented passports to enter McDonalds franchises.

This makes us very easy to exterminate if any great people or super-mensch wants to reduce population.
"Scare us and we will do whatever you say, Great Overlords of Truth (ie. commercial media and its billions in Pfizer ads).

[KurtFF8]

You're just promoting baseless conspiracy theories. There was a scientific consensus around things like vaccinations. The people who oppose it are quite fringe even within the scientific and medical professional communities across the world.

Anti-vaxer sentiment is not based on facts but is based on the words of people like Alex Jones.

(Again, this thread needs to be locked or moved, it's in violation of PoFo and Today's News rules.)

[QatzelOk]

You're just promoting baseless conspiracy theories. There was a scientific consensus around things like vaccinations. The people who oppose it are quite fringe even within the scientific and medical professional communities across the world.

It's like the war against Hamas, right?

Only fringe radicals want a ceasefire. Normal, peace-loving people want Israel to eliminate Hamas, and they want everyone to be vaccinated against all the diseases that the Pentagon invents.

Kurt, you keep regurgitating the mainstream media memes from the Lockdown Days. Is this because you want to convince YOURSELF that what you did was wise during that period?

[KurtFF8]

It's like the war against Hamas, right?

Only fringe radicals want a ceasefire. Normal, peace-loving people want Israel to eliminate Hamas, and they want everyone to be vaccinated against all the diseases that the Pentagon invents.

Kurt, you keep regurgitating the mainstream media memes from the Lockdown Days. Is this because you want to convince YOURSELF that what you did was wise during that period?

It's not like that in the slightest. The entire world is effectively for a ceasefire. If anything, support for Israel is now the fringe position.

Also you're talking about a geopolitical conflict compared to the science behind a vaccine to combat a virus. Two very different kinds of things.

[QatzelOk]

...Also you're talking about a geopolitical conflict compared to the science behind a vaccine to combat a virus. Two very different kinds of things.

The "science" behind the "vaccine" was built out of the same leveraged PR vocabulary (mixed with lies occasionally) that the Israeli genocide of Palestinians is being built out of.

Having studied propaganda in uni, and having worked in advertising writing texts and proposing marketing schemes, I couldn't help but notice all the mass media science that went into this "deadly pandemic of the unvaxxed" and the "get your vax, you won't get covid" and "what should be done about the evil unvaxxed?"

It was very similar to "unprovoked" attacks by both Russia and the Palestinian government (Hamas)... which in reality were totally provoked.

Lies can kill you even if you are following all the latest trends.

[KurtFF8]

The "science" behind the "vaccine" was built out of the same leveraged PR vocabulary (mixed with lies occasionally) that the Israeli genocide of Palestinians is being built out of.

No it isn't, those two things aren't related in any way

Having studied propaganda in uni, and having worked in advertising writing texts and proposing marketing schemes, I couldn't help but notice all the mass media science that went into this "deadly pandemic of the unvaxxed" and the "get your vax, you won't get covid" and "what should be done about the evil unvaxxed?"

It was very similar to "unprovoked" attacks by both Russia and the Palestinian government (Hamas)... which in reality were totally provoked.

Lies can kill you even if you are following all the latest trends.

There were absolutely campaigns to promote the vaccine that were propagandist in nature, but if you actually had studied propaganda, you would know that just because something is propagandized doesn't make it automatically false.

Vaccines are science and health based which are measurable and easy to study among a world community of scientists, researchers, public health experts, etc. And the anti vaxxers among those folks are a tiny fringe which aren't taken seriously. Not because of propaganda, but because the science behind their claims is not sound.

[QatzelOk]

...There were absolutely campaigns to promote the vaccine that were propagandist in nature, but if you actually had studied propaganda, you would know that just because something is propagandized doesn't make it automatically false...

When something is propagandized, as you say, it means that information is arranged in a way that "fools" the information-consumer into acting in a way that the propagandist wants.

This indicates that there is a hidden agenda on the part of the propagandist. What was that hidden agenda, Kurt? Do you know?

Is it okay to "fool" people into receiving untested commercial drugs?

Does it matter to you at all that there is a hidden agenda here?

Vaccines are science...

Genocides can be science. MK Ultra was science. Certain forms of torture are science.

The structure "Thing X is science" doesn't really comfort me. Nor should it comfort anyone else.

That so many people think that technology is "the messiah" is a symptom of too much propaganda having been used to sell too many techno gadgets and chemicals.

...the anti vaxxers among those folks are a tiny fringe which aren't taken seriously.

Other fringe groups in history include anti-slavery, anti-Nazi, anti-killing-the-injuns, anti-Bolshevik...

If a group is reduced to a fringe through propaganda, this doesn't "prove" that the progaganda was in any way accurate or honest.

You realize that, right? That everyone being fooled by someone... doesn't mean that that someone was accurate or honest.

[QatzelOk]

A video that deconstructs the science of propaganda by showing you the various messages that were communicated at various moments in the media timeline. That these messages "don't match up" is a sign that they are not true, but simply meant to motivate you to act in a particular way. Propaganda is, at its base, messages that are designed to get people to act a certain way.

Vaccines are science ...

This can be written because vaccines are "based on the latest technology."
So are breast implants.

So saying or thinking: "get a vaccine because it's science," is similar to saying or thinking: "get breast implants because it's science."


Which science will you have implanted?

I don't have breast implants because for me, "science" is about questionning how things work, and not about wearing the latest gadgets or consuming the latest chemicals.

[skinster]

[Lennox Power]

A video that deconstructs the science of propaganda by showing you the various messages that were communicated at various moments in the media timeline. That these messages "don't match up" is a sign that they are not true, but simply meant to motivate you to act in a particular way. Propaganda is, at its base, messages that are designed to get people to act a certain way.

This can be written because vaccines are "based on the latest technology."
So are breast implants.

So saying or thinking: "get a vaccine because it's science," is similar to saying or thinking: "get breast implants because it's science."


Which science will you have implanted?

I don't have breast implants because for me, "science" is about questionning how things work, and not about wearing the latest gadgets or consuming the latest chemicals.

Hey there,

Is your argument a YouTube video?

Take care
Lennox out!

[skinster]

[Rich]

This can be written because vaccines are "based on the latest technology."
So are breast implants.

So saying or thinking: "get a vaccine because it's science," is similar to saying or thinking: "get breast implants because it's science."

Yes we have so many things to be grateful for the Liberals that were based on science. Thalidomide, lead in petrol, asbestos. To be fair on the last point it was modern science that discovered the toxicity of asbestos, from which point we've been rushing to get rid of it. Its remarkable that it is barely five quarters of century since its toxicity was discovered. Obviously you can't expect the products from such a profitable industry to disappear over night.