[litwin]

What nonsense 1878 Berlin Congress stripped Russia of its gains after 1877-78 Moscow-Turk war 1908 Austria annexed Bosnia in contravention of Berlin Which provoked the assassination of Ferdinand 1914 Moscow empire pretend other nations want a land-grab to justify their own actions


Never prevent your enemy from doing a mistake.


RT: "Turkey wants to regain the territories of the former Ottoman Empire and that Moscow empire should already confront its old enemy - Turkey"

[Robert Urbanek]

If Russians are describing Turkey as their old enemy, that may account, in part, for Turkey changing its mind about Sweden joining NATO.

[litwin]

If Russians are describing Turkey as their old enemy, that may account, in part, for Turkey changing its mind about Sweden joining NATO.

these 2 empires hate each other with a true passion

[Negotiator]

Which country do you NOT hate, anyway ?

[Beren]

If Russians are describing Turkey as their old enemy, that may account, in part, for Turkey changing its mind about Sweden joining NATO.

They never changed their mind, they just held back their approval. Erdogan is an opportunist, of course, who sees Russia, especially Putin and his regime, weakening and acts accordingly.

[Potemkin]

They never changed their mind, they just held back their approval. Erdogan is an opportunist, of course, who sees Russia, especially Putin and his regime, weakening and acts accordingly.

And he is wise to do so. Turkey is not in a position of strength in the world. Not yet, anyway.

[Beren]

And he is wise to do so. Turkey is not in a position of strength in the world. Not yet, anyway.

Erdogan will obviously side with the winners, that's how we know who's winning , especially if they're his strategic allies anyway. I wonder if he ever meant to abandon the West or just took advantage of Putin and Russia when he had the opportunity, however, I'd bet it's always been the latter one. Turkey has its traditional historic place in the world, which is not exactly on Russia's side, especially during another Crimean war. In my opinion from now on his strategy will be to get as much influence in and leverage on Ukraine and the Black Sea region alongside the West at Russia's cost as he can.

As to Putin, he meant to outsmart everyone while overplaying his hand, and now the chickens come home to roost for him.

[Szabo]

Erdogan has to play his realpolitik cards as best as possible. Turkey’s economy is precarious and the lira continues to lose value. Seismologists are also warning that a massive earthquake in Istanbul is inevitable, so he’s eventually gonna need all the help he can get.

[litwin]

Erdogan has to play his realpolitik cards as best as possible. Turkey’s economy is precarious and the lira continues to lose value. Seismologists are also warning that a massive earthquake in Istanbul is inevitable, so he’s eventually gonna need all the help he can get.

Erdogan like Pootler is in love with Geo- Politic He wants to annex central asia . but can´t fix his own inflation Like putin can´t do what we did 70 years ago