[Pants-of-dog]

Note that this number will now drop far below 60 trucks a day since UNRWA trucks are no longer allowed by the IDF and Israeli government.

[wat0n]

Since we don't yet have stats of truckloads that entered on February, even though that's the relevant statistic for making comparisons, then it is also illogical to point to a misleading statistic to make any claims of illegal behavior.

I will also note that UNRWA does not have a monopoly on aid distribution.

[Pants-of-dog]

‘Flour massacre’: Lifesaving aid becomes a deadly struggle in Gaza
At least 112 Palestinians were killed and more than 750 others were injured on Thursday after Israeli troops opened fire on civilians gathered at a convoy of food trucks southwest of Gaza City, Palestinian health officials said. Israel denied it was to blame, saying that many victims were run over by aid trucks in a rush to obtain food. The massacre comes as the UN warns of an “almost inevitable famine” in the besieged Palestinian enclave amid increasing reports of children dying of starvation.

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east ... ble-famine

The IDF are shooting civilians trying to access aid.

In terms of the number of trucks, the IPC Global Famine Review Committee found that:

In total, from 5 February to 5 March, 10-15 food trucks were allowed into the Gaza Governorate to feed about 300,000 people.

https://www.ipcinfo.org/fileadmin/user_ ... _Brief.pdf

The exact quote can be found under “Food Access” on page 8 of 26 of the PDF.

[wat0n]

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20240301-flour-massacre-aid-delivery-turns-deadly-in-gaza-as-un-warns-of-inevitable-famine

The IDF are shooting civilians trying to access aid.

...Which Israel denies.

In terms of the number of trucks, the IPC Global Famine Review Committee found that:



https://www.ipcinfo.org/fileadmin/user_ ... _Brief.pdf

The exact quote can be found under “Food Access” on page 8 of 26 of the PDF.

The Gaza Governorate only corresponds to the northern part of Gaza, not the Gaza Strip as a whole. That northern part of Gaza where, it seems, combat is still taking place as Hamas is trying to retake it.

Why isn't Hamas sending trucks from the south? You know, those entering Rafah.

[Pants-of-dog]

The reason Palestinians are unable to produce food is also discussed in the report: Agricultural food production has been destroyed.

Stored food has been exhausted. Livestock are long gone, and people are currently eating animal feed. Dairy cows were slaughtered months ago. People are now digging in rubble to find cans.

There is nowhere for Hamas to procure food to send.

[wat0n]

...Except, of course, for the food that crosses into Rafah and which Hamas controls. Particularly since there is no solid evidence of a decrease in the daily truckloads on February or this month.

[late]

...Except, of course, for the food that crosses into Rafah and which Hamas controls. Particularly since there is no solid evidence of a decrease in the daily truckloads on February or this month.

My prediction is still on track, that's 100 to 200K...

That requires multiple war crimes, btw..

You can try to distract us, but face it, that's a whole lot of mass murder...

[Pants-of-dog]

The food entering Rafah at the crossing is, as the evidence has already shown, a fifth or less of what is needed.

It has also been shown that famine in Rafah is already acute as evidenced by the shooting and looting of food trucks.

The food being delivered to Rafah is needed in Rafah.

[wat0n]

No such evidence has been shown of that, simply based on the pre-war statistics.

But there is clear evidence of Hamas misappropriating aid.

[Pants-of-dog]

The PDF from the IPC Global Famine Review Committee was quoted showing that the number of trucks being allowed by the IDF and Israeli government are far too few to avert famine.

These numbers have been corroborated by several humanitarian agencies.

The only counter evidence was a link to a website that did not have February information for food truck delivery and was misread.

[wat0n]

Israel is not under an obligation to allow Israeli truckers to be placed in danger, including risking being made hostage.

So why doesn't Hamas share its misappropriated aid with the civilian population in northern Gaza?

[Pants-of-dog]

The IDF and Israeli government have never made any claims.about.protecting truck drivers.

This seems like an agreement that the IDF and Israeli government are withholding food and it is merely a justification for this war crime.

[wat0n]

Actually, they have pointed out that northern Gaza is dangerous and in active combat. That of course includes being dangerous for drivers.

[Pants-of-dog]

This is a speculation being put forth as a justification for the agreement of the claim that the IDF and Israeli government are deliberately withholding humanitarian assistance.

[wat0n]

Why withhold it more in the north than the south, which is where Hamas is currently holed up?

[Pants-of-dog]

After five months of military operations, Israel has destroyed Gaza. Over 30,000
Palestinians have been killed, including more than 13,000 children. Over 12,000 are
presumed dead and 71,000 injured, many with life-changing mutilations. Seventy percent of residential areas have been destroyed. Eighty percent of the whole population has been forcibly displaced. Thousands of families have lost loved ones or have been wiped out. Many could not bury and mourn their relatives, forced instead to leave their bodies decomposing in homes, in the street or under the rubble. Thousands have been detained and systematically
subjected to inhuman and degrading treatment. The incalculable collective trauma will be experienced for generations to come.

By analysing the patterns of violence and Israel’s policies in its onslaught on Gaza,
this report concludes that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the threshold indicating Israel’s commission of genocide is met. One of the key findings is that Israel's executive and military leadership and soldiers have intentionally distorted jus in bello principles, subverting
their protective functions, in an attempt to legitimize genocidal violence against the
Palestinian people.

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/fil ... 73-auv.pdf

[wat0n]

Oh, it's the report by the woman who justified the October 7 massacre and denied the mass rapes there.

[QatzelOk]

No such evidence has been shown of that, simply based on the pre-war statistics.

But there is clear evidence of Hamas misappropriating aid.

Your text in this thread (and the values your text demonstrates) is very different than what I am used to reading in serious essays regarding the Israeli slaughter of its concentration camp prisoners.

But I guess your values are aligned with the values of the current drop of Western leaders:

...What kind of system of values can allow for five months the crushing of children under rubble, the detonation of fragile bodies, the wasting away of babies, while still claiming to be humanitarian, tolerant, peace-seeking?

And not just allow all this, but actively assist in it. Supply the bombs that blow those children to pieces or bring houses down on them, and sever ties to the only aid agency that can hope to keep them alive.

The answer, it seems, is the West’s system of values...

And then there's the Nation of Islam who seem to have a very different take on the "causes" of the current slaughter than you with your "the Arabs made me do it!" trope.

...The collapse of the “State of Israel” has dominated the world’s media as has nothing before it.

The world stands in awe as the “People of the Book”—the “Chosen of God” and the “Light Unto Nations”—phosphorus bombs Gaza’s hospitals, refugee camps, and neighborhoods, obliterating the Palestinians like they were Navahos, Algonquins, or Cherokees.

In fact, Israel’s savagery is an almost exact replica of a massacre 387 years ago when the “Pilgrims”—another people who believed in their own divinity—trapped some 700 Pequot, mostly women and children, near the Mystic River in New England and attacked them with unrelenting military force. Their leader, William Bradford, wrote proudly of their psychopathic massacre:

“To see them frying in the fire, and the streams of their blood quenching the same, and the stench was horrible; but the victory seemed a sweet sacrifice, and they gave praise thereof to God.”...

[wat0n]

@QatzelOk do you really think I care about what islamists or the pro-rape leftists have to say about "morality"?

[QatzelOk]

@QatzelOk do you really think I care about what islamists or the pro-rape leftists have to say about "morality"?

I think you ONLY CARE what your sponsors have to say about "morality" or any other subject.

Mercenaries aren't paid to care.