[Istanbuller]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELOSJ0mlmWg

Bargaining is really commonplace for Turkish. We love in that way.

[litwin]

Bargaining is really commonplace for Turkish. We love in that way.

I know, whatever you think about " Christian " Europe , we like Turkey , you are down to earth , reasonable guys . You are not like the Mongol - Muscovite, ultra - imperialistic barabariens

Chinese academic Deng Xize : "No more Mongol-Muscovy style empire:Thoughts on the war in Ukraine, The global reaction to the war in Ukraine in fact shows that such empires will no longer be tolerated."​

The Mongol-Muscovy style empire could be defined as a dominating, rapacious empire upheld by violence, especially unruly violence, and exhibiting three prominent characteristics.


First, it uses unruly violence as a regular means of resolving international disputes. While violence is common and sometimes necessary in political or social governance, rules have been set for its use under a modern lawful democratic system. Unlike in ancient times, the use of violence now comes under heavy restrictions and is “predictable”. Such an evolution also applies to international relations.


https://www.thinkchina.sg/no-more-mongo ... ar-ukraine

[KurtFF8]

A NATO supporter complaining that a power uses violence to maintain its rule

[KurtFF8]

Too bad for you that several capitalist states also achieved the same, without collapsing like the USSR did.

False

Also, not all workers' states and not all capitalist states have been able to become developed.

No, not all workers states reached the level of the USSR is what I presume you're saying here. But in just about every case, there were vast improvements to the standards of living for the working class.

[litwin]

False



No, not all workers states reached the level of the USSR is what I presume you're saying here. But in just about every case, there were vast improvements to the standards of living for the working class.

any comment on this , ivan ?

[wat0n]

False

Huh, it's not? You can see Singapore if you want an example of rapid development.

No, not all workers states reached the level of the USSR is what I presume you're saying here. But in just about every case, there were vast improvements to the standards of living for the working class.

The same can be said about capitalist states and, honestly, any state that joins the still ongoing Industrial Revolution.

[litwin]

Huh, it's not? You can see Singapore if you want an example of rapid development.



The same can be said about capitalist states and, honestly, any state that joins the still ongoing Industrial Revolution.

[Skynet]

@Istanbuller Turkey has this year 70% inflation what do you think about a Alliance switch Turkey has the 2nd largest army in NATO and heavy industry comparable to France or UK... I think Putin and Xi have to offer more...

[litwin]

@Istanbuller Turkey has this year 70% inflation what do you think about a Alliance switch Turkey has the 2nd largest army in NATO and heavy industry comparable to France or UK... I think Putin and Xi have to offer more...

Armenia and Moldova signed a defense pact with France. BREAKING ....Mongol - Moscow ulus is finished ...

[litwin]

The Soviet economy was booming from the 1970s to the 1980s. It was rather the technological gap that forced the Soviet Union to open up the country, especially in IT (Information Technology). The Soviet leadership had gone soft on imposing communism on the satellite states in the late 1980s, when the Soviet Bloc was gradually liberated under the policies of glasnost (openness) and perestroika (restructuring). Gorbachev didn't believe in Soviet-style communist rule and he was a humanist who believed in the idea of the brotherhood of all peoples irrespective of their nationality.


By 1970, the Soviet economy had reached its zenith and was estimated at 60 percent of the size of the United States[64] in terms of the estimated commodities (like steel and coal). In 1989, the official GDP of the Soviet Union was $2,500 billion[65] while the GDP of the United States was $4,862 billion[66] with per capita income figures as $8,700 and $19,800 respectively. The USSR was the first major non-Western country to close the developmental gap that had existed with the West since the 16th century.[67]: 52  In the period 1930 to 1960s, the USSR successfully implemented catch-up development.[67]: 52 

Hindustan needs to decide if it supports the west or the Moscow imperialists ... "Biden sanctions don't work" crowd runs for the hills, With Finland and now Sweden in NATO Turkeys leverage is weakened...


GREAT NEWS FOR US LNG - OIL PRODUCERS !

Moscow horde´s war record :-


1856 defeated by Britain and France


1905 defeated by Japan


1917 defeated by Germany


1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states


1939 defeated by Finland


1969 defeated by China


1989 defeated by Afghanistan


1989 defeated in the Cold War.


1996 defeated by Chechnya


2022 defeated by Ukraine


WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn


Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :-


a) Hungary 1956


b) Czechoslovakia 1968


c) Moldova 1992


d) Georgia 2008

[litwin]

Unfortunate move by Turkey. NATO should be dissolved, not enlarged further.

[Istanbuller]

@Istanbuller Turkey has this year 70% inflation what do you think about a Alliance switch Turkey has the 2nd largest army in NATO and heavy industry comparable to France or UK... I think Putin and Xi have to offer more...

There is no such option under current circumstances.

[litwin]

@Istanbuller Turkey has this year 70% inflation what do you think about a Alliance switch Turkey has the 2nd largest army in NATO and heavy industry comparable to France or UK... I think Putin and Xi have to offer more...

" NATO and heavy industry comparable to France " Not even close.
"Putin and Xi have to offer more"

No way, Turkey's exports 2023 by country

Germany with a share of 8.24% (21 billion US$)
USA with a share of 5.79% (14.8 billion US$)
Iraq with a share of 4.99% (12.7 billion US$)
United Kingdom with a share of 4.87% (12.4 billion US$)
Italy with a share of 4.84% (12.3 billion US$)
Moscow empire with a share of 4.26% (10.9 billion US$)
France with a share of 4.02% (10.2 billion US$)
Spain with a share of 3.82% (9.77 billion US$)
United Arab Emirates with a share of 3.35% (8.59 billion US$)
Netherlands with a share of 3.07% (7.87 billion US$)

[KurtFF8]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwQeudrS9A8

There's no question that if Putin's main aim in Ukraine was to stop the expansion of NATO, that it's backfired royally.

Doesn't change my original comment though.

[litwin]

There's no question that if Putin's main aim in Ukraine was to stop the expansion of NATO, that it's backfired royally.

Doesn't change my original comment though.

putin´s aim in Ukraine is destruction of Ukrainian nation and State

any comment on this ?

[KurtFF8]

any comment on this ?

Nope because I didn't look at it.

[litwin]

Nope because I didn't look at it.

the only one way to go :

[KurtFF8]

Ironic for Western Europe to promote "decolonization" and pretend to oppose imperialism. (Also as they actively support Israel)

[wat0n]

Communists never stood against Soviet imperialism, indeed they were its biggest fans, nothing new there.