[Tonic]

But they also switched from defending to attacking.

Yes I have heard that cry before, it became fashionable during the Cold War for Russians to blame the British for the excessive Russian deaths - when really they died because Soviet military leadership was poor because it had been purged by Stalin.

Oh really? What about the delay in opening the Western front to ease the Soviet burden?

Actually it was the Mufti who made the offer, but I don't know how the offer was received

You're not serious are you?

[Tailz]

Tonic wrote:

A giggling smily face does not make a rebuttal.

Oh really? What about the delay in opening the Western front to ease the Soviet burden?

Stalin was pushing for the opening of the second front as soon as possible, and the soonest the Western Allies could do it was in thorough Italy. The Allies knew from the Dieppe raid that without superior forces and the right beach conditions, their landings would have been a shambles. But if you want to believe that the landings were delayed in order to shed more Soviet blood, go right ahead.

You're not serious are you?

Sure I am, how culd they have taken an offer from a community leader in an area under the occupation of a military force that even the Africa Korps was having a hard time cracking. How would they raise the troop, train them, equip them, etc.

Sure Hitler and his cronies would be rubbing their hands together with glee at the show of support, but they still had to form in into something tangible, and that would have been difficult with Palestine being so far away, under British control, and already messed up.

[Tonic]

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[Maas]

cause the Palestinians got much more rights than they deserve.

yeah... they should be treated like 2nd class citizens.
Oh wait... they already are.

[Tonic]

It is impossible to live with a large fifth column in a country.


THE SUDETENIZATION OF PALESTINE
By Dr. Steven Plaut

http://www.freeman.org/m_online/jul98/plaut.htm

Neither the complaints of the Sudeten Germans nor those of the Palestinian Arabs were entirely without foundation. In both cases, the minority group was underrepresented in the civil service and armed forces, partly because of security fears. Both groups experienced some security-related restrictions, particularly during periods of exterior threats and tensions.

Both countries attempted to resolve their problems with the same strategy: winning over the hostile minority through economic integration, tolerance, freedom, and liberal social reform.


The Czech historian Luza has observed: "The Sudeten German problem was not a cause of the context but its pretext. The true reason, according to the Germans themselves, was a refusal of the Czechoslovakian state to become a German vassal (emphasis in original)." Hitler confirmed this on January 23, 1942, when he said, "To put it briefly, the Czechoslovakians are a foreign body in the midst of the German community. There is no room both for them and for us. One of us must give way."

Against the mood of appeasement, a few Western protests were voiced, but generally ignored. William Srang, head of the Central European Department of the British Foreign Office, warned: "Even if there were not a single German in Czechoslovakia, the root problem of German-Czechoslovakian relations would remain, viz., a Slav state thrust into the heart of Germany ... The German government ... (is) using the Sudeten German question as an instrument of policy to strengthen (its) political and military position."

After coming to power, Hitler turned the issue of Sudeten national rights into the main instrument for military aggression. His interest in "self-determination" was based entirely on his determination to destroy and annex Czechoslovakia. The Nazi propaganda machine shifted into high gear, alleging widespread violations of the human rights of Sudeten Germans by the Czechoslovakian authorities. Nazi funds flowed into the coffers of the SdP. Germany ominously warned of the existence of imaginary Soviet airfields in Czechoslovakia, much as the Arabs were to "discover" imaginary American airfields in Israel in 1967. Germany labeled Czechoslovakia "a puppet of Soviet imperialism", just as the Arabs were to label Israel a puppet and instrument of American imperialism. But the most important part of the Nazi propaganda assault on Czechoslovakia was the denunciation of the supposed torture and physical abuse of Sudeten Germans at the hands of Czechoslovakia. This from the nation that was already building concentration camps.



Sudetenland.

The Hamas newspaper in May 18, 2006 chronicled with pride the ways in which different foreign leaders singled out the Palestinians as examples of ideal revolutionaries. The first leader cited by the Hamas weekly, Al-Rissala, for praising the Palestinians was Adolf Hitler:

"Adolf Hitler, while exciting the Germans of the Sudetenland - the Sudetenland is a German province that the Allies had annexed to Czechoslovakia after the First World War - told them in his broadcasts: Look at what the Palestinian revolutionaries are doing to Great Britain!!"
[Al-Rissala (Hamas Weekly), May 18, 2006]