SolarCross wrote:Who is the "local community"?
The democratically elected representatives of the area and their constituents, as defined by the local, state, and federal government.
If you disagree with this, that's completely fine. I myself would rather see soviets set up, the representatives of bourgeois government executed, and people's trials put up to rid the proletarian state of its enemies.
But, as of now, the local community is represented by the their local government. Unless you want to overthrow three constitutions.
It seems pretty clear the Mayor was looking to create an incident by having the cops fail to seperate them from the counter protesters and then physically push the Alt-Right groups into the waiting mob of counter protesters. This is where the scandal arises. Now like a swarm all the SJW religionists are using this as an excuse to go after innumerable other peices of public art, even Washington and Jefferson, and now apparently the international element is going after Cook and Nelson too. This may have begun with a "local community" which is apparently a euphemism for a mischevious mayor, it is well beyond that now.
I'd be more impressed by this conspiracy theory if you had a shred of proof for it. You backed off by saying this was some kind of mass hysteria, but now you imply there was some kind of plan. Please expand upon this.
For you this might be fun pay back for the fall of the USSR but for the rest of us it is less funny.
More than anything, the rampant hypocracy to justify your feelings is hillarious.
You can't say, "to the victor goes the spoils," because the Confederacy lost.
You can't say that we just have to leave up old political statues, because then we need to start putting up Nazi and Soviet statues.
You just have to plead about what a victim you pretend you are and how you need your special feelings placated with no logic or consistency attached to it at all
You are hair splitting, even now there is no chance of a confederate lead re-run of the civil war, the confederacy is dead. Certain people might like to amuse themselves by saying the "south will rise again" and waving old flags but no I guess there is no chance of that, really. That doesn't mean certain unhinged people aren't trying to provoke these nostalgics as a publicity stunt... cleary they are but nothing substantial will come of it. California and perhaps Texas are nearer to that.
So now there is no worry about, "kicking a sleeping dog," as the threat no longer exists by this post. It's hard for me to keep up on what you imagine a threat is and not!
It's like Welsh nationalism or something, should people go into Wales and rub the Welsh's noses in their defeat hundreds of years ago, piss on their flag just because there is no chance at all of them ever leaving the United Kingdom? Or isn't it better to leave them be to enjoy their nostalgia and cultural idiosyncracies without insult?
Wales is a nationalist interest, for what it's worth. The Confederacy defined itself as an ideological interest:
James Stephens, VP of the Confederacy"The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the “rock upon which the old Union would split.” He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with, but the general opinion of the men of that day was that, somehow or other in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. This idea, though not incorporated in the constitution, was the prevailing idea at that time. The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the “storm came and the wind blew.”
Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.
...With us, all of the white race, however high or low, rich or poor, are equal in the eye of the law. Not so with the negro. Subordination is his place. He, by nature, or by the curse against Canaan, is fitted for that condition which he occupies in our system. The architect, in the construction of buildings, lays the foundation with the proper material-the granite; then comes the brick or the marble. The substratum of our society is made of the material fitted by nature for it, and by experience we know that it is best, not only for the superior, but for the inferior race, that it should be so. [/quote]
Unlike Wales, again, the Confederacy sought to force us all to accept its will:
[quote="Stephens, Ibid wrote:The process of disintegration in the old Union may be expected to go on with almost absolute certainty if we pursue the right course. We are now the nucleus of a growing power which, if we are true to ourselves, our destiny, and high mission, will become the controlling power on this continent. To what extent accessions will go on in the process of time, or where it will end, the future will determine. So far as it concerns States of the old Union, this process will be upon no such principles of reconstruction as now spoken of, but upon reorganization and new assimilation. Such are some of the glimpses of the future as I catch them.
Perhaps we can just move the statues for these traitors and race slavers into your local communities because the local communities that have them don't want them; and you sympathize so much with the whining out-of-Townes, you can start your own movement to enslave everyone upon a racial hierarchy and force the locals to accept it as heroic. Good luck with that.
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