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Which poll option reflects your view (everything that's free is paid for by the state)

Women should get free abortions and free birth control drugs even during a deficit.
16
57%
Women should get free abortions and free birth control drugs within a balanced budget.
2
7%
Women should get free abortion only if under the age.
0
No votes
Women should never get free abortion and free birth control drugs even if the state has the available funds.
3
11%
Other (please elaborate)
7
25%
 
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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:57 am
I think women should get both free within a balanced budget. Reason: Population control and it won't really cost all that much.
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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:17 am
Free abortions, yes. Abortion over here is funded by Medicare. We have to buy our own birth control, but I think that should be free as well.
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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:35 am
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Free abortions, yes. Abortion over here is funded by Medicare. We have to buy our own birth control, but I think that should be free as well.


Exactly. Handing out free condoms would probably save money in the long run in terms of medicare.

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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:42 am
Other: Hand out free condoms, provide subsidized abortions for people in or below a certain income bracket. Continue these programs regardless of whether the budget is in deficit or in surplus.
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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:03 am
Free birth control. No state funds going to abortion, ever.
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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:28 am
Nets wrote:
...No state funds going to abortion, ever.


Why not?

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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:59 am
Other: Free birth control always. Free abortion under certain conditions (life of the mother is at risk, rape/incest baby, baby will be born without a brain, profoundly mentally retarded, etc), and abortion (except for the conditions that would get a free abortion) legal prior to the 22nd week.
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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:10 am
Nets wrote:
No state funds going to abortion, ever.


Why the hell not?
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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:20 am
Here's a thought. Women taking control and responsibility of their lives and sexual health by making correct choices. And that includes parents educating their children at home and not leaving it haphazardly to the schooling system.

Don't have unprotected sex if you can't risk falling pregnant.

Simple.

This has nothing to do with morality or promiscuity or any other emotive label people are going to want to tinge the argument with.
This has to do with respecting the fact that as a species we procreate by having sex. 
Its quite a significant event and deserves due respect. 

Free birth control in itself will not fix the stupidity going on at the moment...if only it were that simple. But if people think its a good policy to have free contraception, go for it.

Abortion should not be subsidized by the tax payer. Except for women who have been raped or whose health is in jeopardy and cannot afford the procedure.
But promoting abortions as a form of birth control is a callous and lazy call by the human race. 
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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:59 am
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Free birth control. No state funds going to abortion, ever.


I would prefer state funds going toward abortions, than to have state funds go toward raising an unwanted child for 18 years and then supporting it afterward when it can't get a job.
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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:01 am
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I would prefer state funds going toward abortions, than to have state funds go toward raising an unwanted child for 18 years and then supporting it afterward when it can't get a job.


As would I. It's certainly much more cost-effective.
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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:06 am
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Abortion should not be subsidized by the tax payer. Except for women who have been raped


Then you have every woman claiming she has been raped, and how do you determine who is telling the truth?
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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:46 am
If one has been raped, then it should be reported to the police as it is a serious and traumatic experience.
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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:45 am
Women should get free abortions and free birth control drugs even during a deficit.

Of course they should be free. Considering that it is the poor and low-IQ people who'd be put off if you were to charge for abortions the policy would pay for itself many times over in fewer criminals, welfare queens, etc.
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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:04 am
Women should get free abortions and free birth control drugs even during a deficit.

This isn't even a particularly new idea.
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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:20 am
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Hand out free condoms, provide subsidized abortions for people in or below a certain income bracket. Continue these programs regardless of whether the budget is in deficit or in surplus.


This.

Why should those in middle and upper income brackets receive subsidization for that which they can easily be expected to pay themselves?
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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:00 pm
ness31 wrote:
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This has to do with respecting the fact that as a species we procreate by having sex. 
Its quite a significant event and deserves due respect. 


This is your opinion. I do not share it. Why should policy be dictated according to personal opinions?

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Abortion should not be subsidized by the tax payer. Except for women who have been raped or whose health is in jeopardy and cannot afford the procedure.
But promoting abortions as a form of birth control is a callous and lazy call by the human race. 


Are you saying that abortion should not be subsidised because it is callous and lazy?

Ignoring the issue of whether or not that's true, why should we base abortion policy on trying to enforce some sort of "anti-callous and anti-lazy" morality?

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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:03 pm
I see many people on this thread have next to no value of human life.
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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:45 pm
PoD wrote:
Why not?


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Why the hell not?


Because the state should not fund the murder of society's most defenseless human beings.

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As would I. It's certainly much more cost-effective.


It would also be "cost effective" to go around strangling people with severe mental retardation, autism, those in mental hospitals, as well as clearing out many inner city areas. So what?
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Post Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:26 pm
However, if you really hold to that sort of morality, then why would you want to allow it to go on in private clinics if you think it's 'murder'? I'm not sure why you think it's okay when it's privately funded, but suddenly not-okay when publicly funded.

Planned Parenthood takes donations in the USA, so people would just fight back by donating money to Planned Parenthood since a lot of people see the issue as important enough to put their money where their mouth is regardless of what the state happens to be doing or not doing.
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