[rikibombastoc]

It was a Russian made rocket? But were the Russians responsible?

[Decky]

No of course not.

I believe Mossad is the most likely culprit. They have a long history of being behind false flag operations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954.[vague] As part of the false flag operation,[1] a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American, and British-owned civilian targets, cinemas, libraries and American educational centers. The bombs were timed to detonate several hours after closing time. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents" or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassina ... Al-Mabhouh

The assassination of Mahmoud Al-Mabhouh (Arabic: محمود المبحوح‎‎, Maḥmūd al-Mabḥūḥ; 14 February 1961 – 19 January 2010) took place on 19 January 2010, in a Dubai hotel room. Al-Mabhouh—a co-founder of the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of the Islamist Palestinian Hamas—was wanted by the Israeli government for the kidnapping and murder of two Israeli soldiers in 1989 as well as purchasing arms from Iran for use in Gaza; these have been cited as a possible motive for the assassination.[1] He also had other enemies, including Fatah. He had spent 2003 in prison in Egypt and was being sought by Jordanian intelligence.[2]

His assassination attracted international attention in part due to allegations that it was ordered by the Israeli government and carried out by Mossad agents holding fake or fraudulently obtained passports from several European countries and Australia.

The photographs of the 26 suspects and their aliases were subsequently placed on Interpol's most-wanted list. The Dubai police found that 12 of the suspects used British passports, along with six Irish, four French, one German, and three Australian passports.[3][4][5][6][7] Interpol and the Dubai police believed that the suspects stole the identities of real people, mostly Israeli dual citizens.[3][8] Two Palestinians, believed by Hamas to be former Fatah security officers and current employees of a senior Fatah official, were taken into custody in Dubai, on suspicions that one of them provided logistical assistance to the hit team. Despite Hamas's claim, Dubai would not comment on the incident or identify the two Palestinian suspects.

Of course we all know about 9/11 that needs no citation.

Sometimes they are even brave enough to attack their puppets/ allies under their own flag.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on 8 June 1967, during the Six-Day War.[3] The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two marines, and one civilian), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship.[4] At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish.[1][5]

The downing of MH17 was obviously part of a Mossad plot to stop Russia from defeating Mossads fascist puppets in western Ukraine. Mossad would be against this as they were hoping for Ukraine for fall into the EU (another Mossad front group) and were using their puppets in the post coup government in Kiev to achieve this.

QED

[Zionist Nationalist]

No. Ukrainian army is responsible for that but its being covered up for political reasons

[Thunderhawk]

"yes" - perhaps by proxy

I don't believe Russia shot the missile, but it may have been Russian volunteers who manned the system. The missile system, like many Russian weapons and volunteers, are in Ukraine because of Russia.

[layman]

Yes, obviously.

Only the Russian dick suckers on the forum think otherwise.

[KlassWar]

Other:

I'm positive the Russian armed forces proper didn't do it. They can reliably tell airliners and heavy bombers apart and shooting down an airliner was not in their interest.

The two possibilities are NATO/Ukronazi false flag or collateral damage incident by the Donbass Resistance's air defenses. And it's hard to say for sure. (The reason I'd class a Ukro/Nato downing as a false flag and a Russian/Donbass resistance downing as collateral damage is that the Ukros and their NATO allies weren't facing enemy aircraft and thus had no business shooting down planes there.)

The ultimate responsibility is with the airline itself, though: Drawing a civilian flight plan over a warzone where guerrillas are trying to shoot down enemy aircraft is blatant reckless endangerment of the crew and passengers.