mikema63 wrote:When you use the word allegedly it calls into question the injustices we are discussing.
I use the term "alleged" because I would consider this a point of contention and for sake of argument I am "agreeing" with you on grievances while also making clear with the use of that modifier that I personally am not convinced of the claim I am assuming for the sake of the dialogue (thus positing a temporarily conditional agreement).
Given that this would be an separate issue and is not the subject of the discussion, I view it as pointless to hash that out and will merely "concede" the assumption of mass oppression and injustice to give us some "common ground" in the debate.
Thus I am trying to have a reasonable conversation, you seem like you really don't want to have one, but hopefully I am wrong, but your tone is a little discomforting at this point.
mikema63 wrote:The very fact that you end your post by worrying about whites "handing over power" shows what you are getting at by trying to slip around confronting the logical fallacies you are obviously attempting to use to make your case.
I posted no worries of my own, quit ascribing motive to hypotheticals and examples as if a malicious or simplisitc intent were involved on my part when I am not speaking about myself or my views on the matter, which are quite irrelevant.
I end my post by giving a hypothetical, which can be indicated by the prefacing remark "Lets say." I never claimed that the left is trying to transfer power to former oppressed people in the formation of a coalition regime, what I did was argue that, if this was, hypothetically, the case, would whites have any historically-based reasons to be concerned about their own fate? This is still the unanswered question.
Also, I have not committed any fallacies. For the most part, I have only asked questions in light of hypothetical examples, and as I demonstrated, I never committed the slippery slope as you claimed.
mikema63 wrote:I am being fair, in all fairness your transparent nonsense deserves little more than a derisive sniff.
My views are transparent only in the sense that I state them plainly on my profile and I know we already disagree, but my questions and hypotheticals have nothing to do with my beliefs per se, they are legitimate questions. So let me reiterate,
Given historical cases where victim groups were given power in an attempt to address their grievances as an oppressed class, Do whites in the west, as an alleged former-oppressor class, have any credible historical reason to be concerned about their fate at the hands of those they formerly oppressed if such were in political power (especially in light of attitudes expressed in the mainstream media, academia, and in contemporary leftist activism)?
This question can be asked and answered by anyone.